Trump Will Get Rid of the Dept of Education

[adrina]

https://www.tiktok.com/video/7427113350057774378

But if you don't obey him, then he won't send you any money.

No federal dept of ed, but you have to follow the standard the executive office puts in place. Or they'll cut off the money.

There is so much to unpack here.

And there are people who want him in office.

Mental.

 

[Rebel5soul]

Good.

 

[adrina]

Only idiots think it's good.

 

[colddiesel]

The question is not whether this Federal department should exist. It is firstly, should the functions it performs exist, and secondly is a Federal department the most effective (and cost effective) delivery system?

It has an enormous budget of $80 Billion per annum and a staff of 4500. It is not unreasonable to suggest that since its inception 44 years ago it has clearly failed to improve standards/outcomes. However, would firing 4500 federal public servants and distributing the funds to the states be an improvement?

 

[adrina]

The question is not whether this Federal department should exist. It is firstly, should the functions it performs exist, and secondly is a Federal department the most effective (and cost effective) delivery system?

It has an enormous budget of $80 Billion per annum and a staff of 4500. It is not unreasonable to suggest that since its inception 44 years ago it has clearly failed to improve standards/outcomes. However, would firing 4500 federal public servants and distributing the funds to the states be an improvement?

Especially with not even a concept of a plan to take its place.

 

[Bn2f]

The question is not whether this Federal department should exist. It is firstly, should the functions it performs exist, and secondly is a Federal department the most effective (and cost effective) delivery system?

It has an enormous budget of $80 Billion per annum and a staff of 4500. It is not unreasonable to suggest that since its inception 44 years ago it has clearly failed to improve standards/outcomes. However, would firing 4500 federal public servants and distributing the funds to the states be an improvement?

Not necessarily disagreeing with you, but would like to point out that there is no perfect program. All of our government agencies could be run more efficiently. I’m saying that all politicians take advantage of that common sense line of thinking. My bone of contention really is that Republicans tend to poison pill and austerity to death social programs to then point to their failure meanwhile creating new agencies like Homeland security and tell of plans of deporting people without ever explaining or having worries on how to fund. Education becomes a sacrificial lamb in talks on spending cuts.

 

[Bn2f]

If I said after an attack on our military that we should cut spending to defense then that would be viewed as crazy, reckless, and a foolhardy. We are living in an age of lies and misinformation partly responsible for the estimated 7m Covid deaths worldwide, compare that to war casualties. It’s not hyperbole to be concerned that many like rebel, who actively come here spreading such, want cuts to education.

 

[lessOHmo]

https://www.tiktok.com/video/7427113350057774378

But if you don't obey him, then he won't send you any money.

No federal dept of ed, but you have to follow the standard the executive office puts in place. Or they'll cut off the money.

There is so much to unpack here.

And there are people who want him in office.

Mental.

excellent

 

[lessOHmo]

If I said after an attack on our military that we should cut spending to defense then that would be viewed as crazy, reckless, and a foolhardy. We are living in an age of lies and misinformation partly responsible for the estimated 7m Covid deaths worldwide, compare that to war casualties. It’s not hyperbole to be concerned that many like rebel, who actively come here spreading such, want cuts to education.

stfu colored freak

 

[adrina]

If anyone had any doubts about what a bad idea this is, the rolodex account of posters agrees with it.

 

[schism666]

he did that when he appointed devos.

 

[Politruk]

The question is not whether this Federal department should exist. It is firstly, should the functions it performs exist, and secondly is a Federal department the most effective (and cost effective) delivery system?

Well, if we look at what it actually does -- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Department_of_Education:

The department identifies four key functions:[6]

• Establishing policies on federal financial aid for education, and distributing as well as monitoring those funds.
• Collecting data on America's schools and disseminating research.
• Focusing national attention on key educational issues.
• Prohibiting discrimination and ensuring equal access to education.

Nothing objectionable about any of THAT.

It has an enormous budget of $80 Billion per annum and a staff of 4500. It is not unreasonable to suggest that since its inception 44 years ago it has clearly failed to improve standards/outcomes. However, would firing 4500 federal public servants and distributing the funds to the states be an improvement?

Not really. $80 billion budget -- out of a total federal budget of $16 trillion. It's chump change.

But, more importantly:

If we look around the world at all of the countries whose educational systems are generally agreed to produce better results than America's -- Japan, France, the UK -- one thing they all have in common is CENTRALIZED, NATIONAL CONTROL OF THE SYSTEM.

Whatever the merits may be of decentralized government or federalism, education is one field where it should never be applied.

Abolishing the DoE would take us in EXACTLY the wrong direction.

We should instead be looking at abolishing county school boards, and turning over their powers and functions to the DoE.

 

[Saint_Ann]

$80 billion is chump change. Lol.

 

[schism666]

If anyone had any doubts about what a bad idea this is, the rolodex account of posters agrees with it.

this is just another thing that what used up be republicans would never agree with prior to 2016.

they didn't just sell their party, they sold everything they used to hold dear.

 

[Politruk]

$80 billion is chump change. Lol.

On a national-budget scale, it is.

 

[HisArpy]

The meltdown over the Dept of Education continues. The Left likes it because of teacher's unions and they all scream at the merest idea of defunding the dept. The Right hates it because they believe that it interferes with freedom of everything not liberal and they all scream in anticipation of defunding the dept.

The entire thing is stupid because it's completely based in self gratification and political animas.

 

[Politruk]

The meltdown over the Dept of Education continues. The Left likes it because of teacher's unions

Nothing to do with that. Teachers' unions deal with state governments and local school boards. They would be unaffected if the DoE were abolished.

The Right hates it because they believe that it interferes with freedom of everything not liberal

NOTHING the DoE does does that.

 

[HisArpy]

Nothing to do with that. Teachers' unions deal with state governments and local school boards. They would be unaffected if the DoE were abolished.


NOTHING the DoE does does that.

Suuuure...

I suppose that's why you believe Randi Weingarten is completely powerless in DC and across the nation when it comes to creating school policy.

 

[schism666]

The meltdown over the Dept of Education continues. The Left likes it because of teacher's unions and they all scream at the merest idea of defunding the dept. The Right hates it because they believe that it interferes with freedom of everything not liberal and they all scream in anticipation of defunding the dept.

The entire thing is stupid because it's completely based in self gratification and political animas.

no, we like our children to be educated so they don't think that water is carbon based.

derp.

 

[HisArpy]

no, we like our children to be educated so they don't think that water is carbon based.

derp.

You must not like getting natural health and/or health benefits from the correct and nutritional hydration effect of carbon based water.

Which is probably why you persist in maintaining your idiocy while believing you're coming out on top of the discussion every time.

There's a "solution" for that.

 

[Politruk]

Suuuure...

I suppose that's why you believe Randi Weingarten is completely powerless in DC and across the nation when it comes to creating school policy.

Techers' unions SHOULD create school policy -- more so than the morons on the average school board -- but I don't know as they do.

 

[Politruk]

You must not like getting natural health and/or health benefits from the correct and nutritional hydration effect of carbon based water.

Look, you can filter water through charcoal, but it's still not carbon-based.

 

[schism666]

You must not like getting natural health and/or health benefits from the correct and nutritional hydration effect of carbon based water.

Which is probably why you persist in maintaining your idiocy while believing you're coming out on top of the discussion every time.

There's a "solution" for that.

isn't it about time to dox yourself again, jeenyus?

 

[HisArpy]

Techers' unions SHOULD create school policy -- more so than the morons on the average school board -- but I don't know as they do.

UNIONS aren't the LEGISLATURE which is the SOLE body Constitutionally responsible for creating school policy.

 

[Politruk]

UNIONS aren't the LEGISLATURE which is the SOLE body Constitutionally responsible for creating school policy.

But the legislature doing that should be Congress -- not the state legislatures and not the county school boards. If a constitutional amendment is what it takes to nationalize the school system, it's worth one.