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Trump fucks up again. Ukraine negotiation goes sideways

Bray123 said:
You only know what girls look like from the internet, how did you manage to find an image with their clothes on?
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LOL did you just assume they were girls? What a fucking bigot transphobe....those are MEN. Fucking Nazi.
 
Bottomline after all of the handwringing of the Left, Trump spanked Zelensky and the American people are on his side.
 
ll74 said:
Incorrect
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There will never be a time when you will ever allow yourself to be led to the fountain of truth no matter how dry and thick your tongue becomes. You will always be crawling from one mirage to the next.
 
Rightguide said:
There will never be a time when you will ever allow yourself to be led to the fountain of truth no matter how dry and thick your tongue becomes. You will always be crawling from one mirage to the next.
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The polls will show that Americans don't support the pathetic horseshit that 47 and his minions put on display in the oval.
 
Cogan said:
Well, not more than about 50% are on his side. I think the rest knows how to behave infront off the world when you want to be the big diplomat and make peace.
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It wouldn't be Zelensky or his following. He's lost the war. What is left of his army isn't big enough to dislodge the Russians from the territory they have captured or change the outcome of the war. Millions of fighting age males have left the country. He was never going to prevail. You've been lied to. There's a spoken truth in warfare, "wars are won twenty years before they start" Joe Biden and his generals lied to you and Ukraine when they said they could teach the Ukrainians combined arms warfare in six months to a year. It can't be done and the proof of it is why the Ukrainian plains are punctuated with the rusting or burning hulks of destroyed American armor they never knew how to employ or maintain. There are multiple layers of incompetence and frustration in trying to employ and maintain systems donated by 5 or 6 foreign nations all with come with different manuals, maintenance schedules, and inventories of spare parts, requiring numbers of different training cycles to to absorb and become competent in their employment on the battlefield. Just the fueling logistics for maneuvering the M1 Abrams around the battlespace is daunting even for the US Army. This is why most of them couldn't be employed but were dug into revetments and used as singular artillery. Most of them destroyed in place.

Trump was always about peace and will not support wars that are not in the interests of the United States. He ran on this message and was elected in an electoral landslide. Ukraine is done. they have lost the war and now they need to come to the peace table and save what is left of their country.
 
Rightguide said:
It wouldn't be Zelensky or his following. He's lost the war. What is left of his army isn't big enough to dislodge the Russians from the territory they have captured or change the outcome of the war. Millions of fighting age males have left the country. He was never going to prevail. You've been lied to. There's a spoken truth in warfare, "wars are won twenty years before they start" Joe Biden and his generals lied to you and Ukraine when they said they could teach the Ukrainians combined arms warfare in six months to a year. It can't be done and the proof of it is why the Ukrainian plains are punctuated with the rusting or burning hulks of destroyed American armor they never knew how to employ or maintain. There are multiple layers of incompetence and frustration in trying to employ and maintain systems donated by 5 or 6 foreign nations all with come with different manuals, maintenance schedules, and inventories of spare parts, requiring numbers of different training cycles to to absorb and become competent in their employment on the battlefield. Just the fueling logistics for maneuvering the M1 Abrams around the battlespace is daunting even for the US Army. This is why most of them couldn't be employed but were dug into revetments and used as singular artillery. Most of them destroyed in place.

Trump was always about peace and will not support wars that are not in the interests of the United States. He ran on this message and was elected in an electoral landslide. Ukraine is done. they have lost the war and now they need to come to the peace table and save what is left of their country.
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The lie is that Ukraine started this war.
The lie is that Ukraine should not defend itself from their invading opposition.
The lie is that Zelensky is a dictator and Putin is an elected President.
 
Rightguide said:
It wouldn't be Zelensky or his following. He's lost the war. What is left of his army isn't big enough to dislodge the Russians from the territory they have captured or change the outcome of the war. Millions of fighting age males have left the country. He was never going to prevail. You've been lied to. There's a spoken truth in warfare, "wars are won twenty years before they start" Joe Biden and his generals lied to you and Ukraine when they said they could teach the Ukrainians combined arms warfare in six months to a year. It can't be done and the proof of it is why the Ukrainian plains are punctuated with the rusting or burning hulks of destroyed American armor they never knew how to employ or maintain. There are multiple layers of incompetence and frustration in trying to employ and maintain systems donated by 5 or 6 foreign nations all with come with different manuals, maintenance schedules, and inventories of spare parts, requiring numbers of different training cycles to to absorb and become competent in their employment on the battlefield. Just the fueling logistics for maneuvering the M1 Abrams around the battlespace is daunting even for the US Army. This is why most of them couldn't be employed but were dug into revetments and used as singular artillery. Most of them destroyed in place.

Trump was always about peace and will not support wars that are not in the interests of the United States. He ran on this message and was elected in an electoral landslide. Ukraine is done. they have lost the war and now they need to come to the peace table and save what is left of their country.
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You are from Russia, right? Or working for them?
 
ll74 said:
The polls will show that Americans don't support the pathetic horseshit that 47 and his minions put on display in the oval.
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Your polls said he was going to lose the election too. Your echo chamber has no credibility. The American majority is behind the President.
 
Rightguide said:
Your polls said he was going to lose the election too. Your echo chamber has no credibility. The American majority is behind the President.
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I don't have any polls.

And the majority in November showed exactly what occurred.
 
ll74 said:
The lie is that Ukraine started this war.
The lie is that Ukraine should not defend itself from their invading opposition.
The lie is that Zelensky is a dictator and Putin is an elected President.
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The "fact" is they have lost the war.

I know you won't watch this because you're stupid but because I am a humanitarian I will leave you with the words of a very smart Democrat who knows this subject inside and out having been involved at the policy level of this conflict in Ukraine:

 
Rightguide said:
The "fact" is they have lost the war.
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That's not a fact. Else Russia would've stopped their attacks.

Rightguide said:
I know you won't watch this because you're stupid but because I am a humanitarian I will leave you with the words of a very smart Democrat who knows this subject inside and out having been involved at the policy level of this conflict in Ukraine:
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You're correct, i have no interest in any horseshit you use for information.
 
ll74 said:
That's not a fact. Else Russia would've stopped their attacks.


You're correct, i have no interest in any horseshit you use for information.
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I am correct in describing you as stupid. You can't see the forest for the trees. The war is lost and we are done with it, maybe NATO as well. They are bigger and richer than Russia. They need to step up and protect their own territory and fight their own wars.
 
Rightguide said:
I am correct in describing you as stupid. You can't see the forest for the trees. The war is lost and we are done with it, maybe NATO as well.
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Yes, I get that you are confused by present day versus your beliefs.
The war continues
We are in NATO

You may want to form an alliance with Putin, but that has not yet occurred.

Rightguide said:
They are bigger and richer than Russia. They need to step up and protect their own territory and fight their own wars.
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They are defending themself against their hostile invader.
 
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