Trouble in Kahunaville...

TBKahuna123

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or Don't Fuck on Ambien!

Eilan started a great thread on dissinterested parties in sexual problems and I mentioned that over the years my wife and I have gone through it and learned to deal with it. We've gotten good at identifying potential problems and addressing them before they snowball. Here's a good example that I'm frankly embarassed by, one that happened in the last week! Twice my wife and I have stopped having sex and wound up in ugly fights. The first one was thursday and Friday we talked it all through and all was good. Then Sunday we had anothtr one, this one lasting until 4 am!!! :mad:

Now, I was pretty depressed yesterday because I didn't get it. I couldn't figure out what her problem was and was totally confused about what I had done to provoke her. Well I won't go into all the details, because they are sketchy for me at best, but the biggest one for her was that I was concentrating so much on doing things to her that I would not respond to what she did to me. Not only wasn't I responding, but I was losing my erection, which confused and hurt her feelings. Well, we did figure out yesterday what was wrong really wrong. This will make you laugh.

A month ago I started taking Ambien for insomnia. It works great, but it has an interesting effect. Unlike normal sleeping pills, it doesn't just knock you out, it helps you stay asleep by quietting your mind. So what happens if you take it and don't go right to sleep? Well you don't get sleepy, but your brain does shut off! Both times this had happened I had take the Ambien before we started to make love.

I vividly remember the fights because I was mentally engaged, but I barely remember the sexual encounters at all! As we talked yesterday I started to get flashes of memory, but basically it's all a blank spot. My lack of response and what I can only term insensitivity was totally out of character for me, and she knew that, but other stresses last week just made her reaction worse. She had come to me looking for comfort, love and reinforcement, which she didn't get. There was a total lack of our normal intimacy which is the core of our sex life. I was at a loss because I couldn't figure out what I had done, it just wasn't me. Hell, the whole sexual encounter had barely started when she got pissed, at least that's what I thought. :confused:

Yesterday she corrected me, told me that is wasn't right away, that we'd been making love for at least 15 minutes both times. I was shocked because I realized I didn't remember hardly any of the sexual encounter, just the beginning. Then I remembered something that had happened when I first started taking this. I took my pill and my mom called. Apparently I had a 10 minute conversation with her which ended up with me being totally incoherent and babbling. I also had an incident that my wife reminded me of where I took the pill after a late night hockey game and wound up with leg cramps so bad that she spent 30 minutes massaging my legs so I could sleep. Again, I don't remember either incident! :eek:

That's when I put two and two together.

The Ambien apparently shuts down the cognitive centers of the brain. A little research confirmed this for me yesterday. When things start running on instinct I was appearing to be toally lucid, but infact higher brain functions were totally whacked out! Once you get engaged mentally and focused it seems to be ok, though dulled and confused. I deduced that during sex instincts and emotions take over and cognitive thought and creativity go night night. So we did some experimentation last night to be sure this was indeed the case, and let's just say she feels very reassured this morning. :D

This was just whacky and a perfect example of why I HATE taking anything like this! Thank God my body is retraining itself and I don't have to take these every night. The moral of the story is that obviously the correct way to take this is to take it and go right to sleep, not take it as prep to sleep. This was confusion caused by my Doctor's instructions because I started with two drugs initially. So take it RIGHT before you go to sleep, and...

NEVER TRY TO FUCK ON AMBIEN!!!! :rolleyes:
 
i'm so happy to hear that you guys worked through this and all's well in "kahunaville" again. (i'm i the only one bastardizing a buffet tune in their head right now?)

i know you didn't really ask a question or anything but (Rx aside) i thought i'd underscore the issue of how important it is to LISTEN when you argue with your SO. arguments tend end sooner and have shorter term repercussions when people listen to each other rather than focusing their efforts on "winning" the argument.
 
EJFan said:
i'm so happy to hear that you guys worked through this and all's well in "kahunaville" again. (i'm i the only one bastardizing a buffet tune in their head right now?)

i know you didn't really ask a question or anything but (Rx aside) i thought i'd underscore the issue of how important it is to LISTEN when you argue with your SO. arguments tend end sooner and have shorter term repercussions when people listen to each other rather than focusing their efforts on "winning" the argument.
Thanks guys. I'll admit I was pretty depressed and hurt by the whole thing, because I couldn't figure out what I'd done wrong! Well shit, when you can't remember doing anything, let alone something wrong... :rolleyes:

I wasn't even gonna post about this because it was pretty embarassing, but after Eilan's thread, I thought it might have some relevance. If there is one thing about our relationship that I really think is awesome, it is our ability to deal with issues like this quickly and openly, which has saved us a ton of grief over the years. You're right EJ, LISTENING is extremely important. It was only through listening that I figured out the Ambien was doing this kind of wierd stuff. The flip side is my inability to listen while in that drugged state is what prolonged those arguments, and heck, that's what moved them from concerns to arguments in the first place! :cool:
 
kahuna: there's some things i've done about which i'm pretty damned embarrassed myself, but if i see a way for that to help someone else, i'll share 'em. kudos to you for having the stones to do so.

ed
 
when i first glanced at this, i thought it said "never fuck on cialis"
 
TBKahuna123 said:
Wouldn't that defeat the purpose? :D
g'head... kame fun of het dyslexic. sticks and snotes TBK, sticks and snotes.
 
EJFan said:
g'head... kame fun of het dyslexic. sticks and snotes TBK, sticks and snotes.
*wipes tears* Oh fuck PML *still chuckling*

So are you a member of DNA?
 
EJFan said:
g'head... kame fun of het dyslexic. sticks and snotes TBK, sticks and snotes.
Wow! That post was irreverent, insensitive, and snarky and as a long time sufferer of Keyboard Dyslexia, I should be offended.

Trouble is I'm laughing to hard! Sticks and Snotes? Classic! :D
 
Ok, seriously though. So glad you made the Ambien/amnesia connection. Sorry your doc confused you. Your pharmacist *should* have told you take the Ambien, go to sleep, go directly to sleep, do not talk on the phone, do not try to fuck your wife.
 
Mr Kahuna, sorry that you encountered trouble in Kahunaville. Glad that things are better though. :rose:
 
vanelane said:
Ok, seriously though. So glad you made the Ambien/amnesia connection. Sorry your doc confused you. Your pharmacist *should* have told you take the Ambien, go to sleep, go directly to sleep, do not talk on the phone, do not try to fuck your wife.
Yeah, not shit! Well, it wasn't really the Docs fault either, he's really good, I just misunderstood. See, orginally I was taking a mild tranq for 5 days. I took that early in the evening to try and prep my body for sleep, then the Ambien at night. Well, I was taking the Ambien and tranq early together. When I quit the tranq after 5 days, I kep takign the Ambien the same way. I never should have been taking them together.

The cool thing is this has all worked! I was terrified I would be on these things ling term and I hate that, it's just a personal thing with me. Now though my body is already getting to the point where I'm sleeping on my own again. I've gone from taking them every night to taking them 3 or 4 nights a week and this is just over the cours of 5 week. My Doc figures another month and I'll be off em totally, which is what I want. Crazy, a medical problem corrected instead of just controlled through repeated drugs. I thought that was unheard of! :rolleyes:

In the mean time...No Sex on Ambien! :p
 
TBKahuna123 said:
In the mean time...No Sex on Ambien! :p
out of curiosity, and in the interest of science, i tried having sex on ambien last night. i didn't experience the problems you had, but in my case i just kept falling off. damn that's a tiny pill to try to fuck on. i'm sticking to the bed.
 
EJFan said:
out of curiosity, and in the interest of science, i tried having sex on ambien last night. i didn't experience the problems you had, but in my case i just kept falling off. damn that's a tiny pill to try to fuck on. i'm sticking to the bed.

You crack me up!
 
*tossing my ambien in the trash*

Maybe that's why I haven't had sex in a way long time. I suppose that there's been no man offering has something to do with it too. On second thought I should keep taking it so I sleep through my sexual frustration.

Great piece of info to pass along Kahuna, thanks for sharing and glad the situation was resolved well. :rose:
 
EJFan said:
out of curiosity, and in the interest of science, i tried having sex on ambien last night. i didn't experience the problems you had, but in my case i just kept falling off. damn that's a tiny pill to try to fuck on. i'm sticking to the bed.
I swear I just heard a rimshot!

No, not a rimjob, a rimshot! There's a subtle difference. :cool:
 
TBKahuna123 said:
I swear I just heard a rimshot!

No, not a rimjob, a rimshot! There's a subtle difference. :cool:

Damn! I was here for the rimjob ;)
 
TBKahuna123 said:
If there is one thing about our relationship that I really think is awesome, it is our ability to deal with issues like this quickly and openly, which has saved us a ton of grief over the years. You're right EJ, LISTENING is extremely important. It was only through listening that I figured out the Ambien was doing this kind of wierd stuff. The flip side is my inability to listen while in that drugged state is what prolonged those arguments, and heck, that's what moved them from concerns to arguments in the first place! :cool:

JB=student, listening. Could use better education in relationship department.

-JB
 
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