Tropes: CFNM v. ENF

[electric1]

A significant portion of CFNM stories have a teenaged male embarrassed by a maternal figure. I’m curious why ENF stories never seem to have a teenaged female embarrassed by paternal figures. Indeed, most ENF stories have surprisingly little role for males at all, and the women are stripped either by accident or by a fellow female.

Any theories to explain this difference?

 

[Djmac1031]

Don't really have an answer for you. But it does sound like a fun idea. Maybe I'll take a try at a story like that myself soon.

 

[Djmac1031]

Actually, I'm currently writing a CFNM story ( I have several chapters already published) called The Jenna Arrangement.

Up until now, my older male character has been the only one nude in front of the younger teen girl character. Perhaps I can turn the tables a bit and come up with a scenario where she is nude in front of him.

Thanks for the possible inspiration

 

[SimonDoom]

I don't think this is entirely true. I am working right now on a rather extreme ENF story, and she has several clothed male companions.

But to the extent it's true, it's probably because the primary readership for an ENF story is males who want to think about the exposed nude woman, and they are not interested in thinking about the men around her. They want to focus on the woman.

But i can think of stories that don't conform to what you are talking about. A great example is the Saturday Night School series, by Jessica Tang Von Harper (very well written) which is about a a young woman in high school who gets naked but the story is told from the point of view of a high school senior male.

Wonderstorm wrote some ENF stories where males figure into the picture.

 

[lovecraft68]

A significant portion of CFNM stories have a teenaged male embarrassed by a maternal figure. I’m curious why ENF stories never seem to have a teenaged female embarrassed by paternal figures. Indeed, most ENF stories have surprisingly little role for males at all, and the women are stripped either by accident or by a fellow female.

Any theories to explain this difference?

My guess is the same reason mom/son stories are written differently than Dad/daughter stories

When the older person in control is male, there is an inherent rapey creepy vibe, even if that's not how its written, and a guy making a young girl strips certainly has that vibe.

Double standard, but its true.

I haven't read a lot of CFNM here, but I like to watch the porn vids and what I see is a lot of older to mid age guys with women of all ages. Maybe the audience for vid vs written is a little different? Or its the sites I'm on. IDK

 

[LAHomedog]

I don't know what ENF stands for...

 

[AuBonPain]

Enf

I don't know what ENF stands for...

Embarrassed nude female (I think)

 

[Rob_Howard]

Up until now, my older male character has been the only one nude in front of the younger teen girl character. Perhaps I can turn the tables a bit and come up with a scenario where she is nude in front of him.

I have never read a CFNM story in which an older male character has been nude. It's always a young man made to strip by a woman of same age or older.

I'll check your series!

 

[Rob_Howard]

A significant portion of CFNM stories have a teenaged male embarrassed by a maternal figure. I’m curious why ENF stories never seem to have a teenaged female embarrassed by paternal figures. Indeed, most ENF stories have surprisingly little role for males at all, and the women are stripped either by accident or by a fellow female.

Any theories to explain this difference?

As mentioned in the earlier replies on the thread, it seems creepier/rapey when an older man makes a younger girl strip. Though I've come across such stories in NonCon/Reluctance or BDSM categories.

I presume most of the ENF stories are read by male readers, so it's always pleasing for them (at least for me) to see a girl dominate a girl rather than getting a creepy vibe.

I did read a story here though, where a woman is made to strip by an older male character and it felt like the situation that you have mentioned we rarely come across - female embarrassed by paternal figures. The woman in the story is an admirer of the erotica written by the male character who is quite old enough to be her father.

But all such stories are in BDSM, which don't count as ENF stories.

 

[LuciJuicy]

Yeah, noncon situations don’t cross-pollinate as well as other kinks I think. There’s a lot of things I’m happy to put up with in stories about things I am interested in reading about, but deliberate noncon is usually a closed tab from me.

I suspect cmnm scenarios tend to just end up being gay male stories, while straight men would rather fantasize about a female audience. Meanwhile, a lot of enf stories are about good, clean-ish naked fun, and adding a male participant runs into the creepy vibes others have talked about. The demographics are probably more complicated than that, but that’s my hunch.

I can think of a couple outliers to this trend, at least of couple of which might actually just be I/T stories, come to think of it. If I wasn’t on my phone I’d try to track them down

 

[gordo12]

I have never read a CFNM story in which an older male character has been nude. It's always a young man made to strip by a woman of same age or older.

I'll check your series!

It's a good story, well written. I enjoyed it!

 

[Djmac1031]

It's a good story, well written. I enjoyed it!

Thank you for the kind words. It's still continuing in small chapters and I'm mixing it up a bit, but still hope to keep the CFNM elements going as well in various ways.

 

[Djmac1031]

Been thinking about this a bit.

I think maybe it's harder to write a CMNF / ENF story because ultimately the male character is going to want to get naked and participate somehow.

IE brother walks in on sister masturbating or just naked. If she remains naked around him willingly long enough, he's probably at least going to want to masturbate.

That said I have read a few good CMNF / ENF stories where the woman is naked or almost naked in public with lots of men looking at her but not going any further than maybe touching themselves over their pants or something.

So they do exist.

 

[MajorRewrite]

Acronyms are annoying.

 

[MillieDynamite]

CMNF / ENF / CFNM

Clothed Male Nude Female, Embarrassed Naked Female, Clothed Female Naked Male

 

[mynameisben]

My favorite stories are NMNF.

(I just wanted to join the acronym club.)


Ben

 

[Djmac1031]

My favorite stories are NMNF.

(I just wanted to join the acronym club.)


Ben

Nerdy Man, Normal Female?

 

[MillieDynamite]

AWMSM

Angry Woman Murders Stupid Man

 

[TarnishedPenny]

I've done well enough with a CMNF series, which initially had my female lead fairly embarrassed. In any case, her nudity was semi-voluntary (she had the option of saying No) and she got over it. I haven't done long-term or coerced ENF. Not much interest in the whole embarrassment / humiliation thing, I guess.

 

[gordo12]

AWMSM

Angry Woman Murders Stupid Man

LOL. Thanks for the laugh this morning!

 

[MillieDynamite]

LOL. Thanks for the laugh this morning!

HTA Happy to Assist.

 

[ChuckWolf]

A significant portion of CFNM stories have a teenaged male embarrassed by a maternal figure. I’m curious why ENF stories never seem to have a teenaged female embarrassed by paternal figures. Indeed, most ENF stories have surprisingly little role for males at all, and the women are stripped either by accident or by a fellow female.

Any theories to explain this difference?

I suspect that there are enough stories out there, where the female protagonist is stripped or forced to strip by an older male figure, but those stories are classified under another kink besides ENF.