Toungin' 'n' groovin'

[Guest]

I'm going to be redecorating my livingroom and diningroom as soon as the weather here gets warmer (next couple of months). I purchased some pine carsiding (tounge & groove) and various stain/urethane combos to test out which I like best.

I'd like my diningroom to be a red color. I tested a minwax cherry stain/urethane combo and am a little disappointed at how light it is.

My livingroom will be done with Olde Maple. Tried that one and love the result.

I did my kitchen in cedar a couple of years ago and just sealed it with urethane, no stain.

Anyone else out there do woodwork? (not the self pleasuring kind either). I'm just wondering if I'd get a darker red if I used a stain to get the desired color and then urethaned?

This is only coat one, I will be trying more to see if it darkens up any.

 

[perks]

eeeeeeeerm. tongue...

 

[alexandraaah]

eep; thought it was a limey poser.

 

[ExLimey]

I hate when I do that...

...type too fast and not proofread before submitting.

I will not spell tongue wrong
I will not spell tongue wrong
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Am I forgiven?

 

[SINthysist]

Redwood or cedar?

A second application of the stain?

Or, since it is rougher wood, an exterior stain for decks...

I've not experienced polyurethane to make things darker...

Oh yeah, and there is a How To board...

 

[perks]

maybe...

I used to work with wood... hmmm... sometimes still do. But, in the sense you're refering to, I only worked with wood while sculpting. I'm kickass at laminating and carving. Other than that, I'm sorry, I don't think I can help you.

perks

 

[ExLimey]

Redwood or cedar?

A second application of the stain?

Or, since it is rougher wood, an exterior stain for decks...

I've not experienced polyurethane to make things darker...

Oh yeah, and there is a How To board...

The stain and ploy are pre-mixed, so a second application is another layer of both (which the can says you can do, but doesn't mention the effect on the color).

Redwood would probably work real well but also cost a fortune.

 

[SINthysist]

Yeah, but when you do things on the cheap, then you have to live with the results for years...

I am doing our lake home now as well as our home in town and I go for the best in materials and richness of look. Not only will it help with resale, but I'm damn proud of my surroundings and that makes me fell better. Gives me a better attitude. And who doesn't love hearing friends and neighbors gush about how wonderful things look...

We have lots of cherry in this house mixed whith Chinese and Mexican pieces. The wainscoat is darkest walnut and the cathedral ceiling a very dark oak...

I love wood work.

Maybe a little too much...

 

[unclej]

pick up a small can of straight stain...no poly...on a test piece apply plain stain, let dry and then apply stain/poly as a top coat...two coats of stain poly probably won't darken much as the first coat seals the wood and second won't soak in much....

 

[1hotjob]

Forget the combo stuff. Use straight stain. Achieve the desired shade, and go over it with straight urethane. Not the water based crap either. Real polyurethane. Use minwax. Best selections and quality goods. If you go with 2 coats of urethane, make sure you steel wool after the first coat(very very fine steel wool) to smooth it out before you go with the 2nd coat.

 

[ExLimey]

pick up a small can of straight stain...no poly...on a test piece apply plain stain, let dry and then apply stain/poly as a top coat...two coats of stain poly probably won't darken much as the first coat seals the wood and second won't soak in much....

UNCLE - Yeah, I thought this premixed stuff might be too good to be true. That's why I bought the $3 can that is too small to get a brush into. I do like the way the one color came out but I will be going back to buy some straight stain to see if I can get a darker red.

SIN - There's just too much to do to this house and not enough money to go hog-wild. Also will be getting new roof, furnace, windows, doors, carpeting and re-doing upstairs as well. Pretty much the whole house except the kitchen and bathroom. That being said, I am a perfectionist and would really rather it be done right. I'm not quite satisfied with the cedar in the kitchen but everyone who has seen it is amazed. Not me, I look at it and see all the mistakes. But that's just how I see everything I do.

 

[SINthysist]

I relate to the perfection part.

I'm 18 months into the first project and 6 months into this project.

But, god, I love it!

 

[ExLimey]

Forget the combo stuff. Use straight stain. Achieve the desired shade, and go over it with straight urethane. Not the water based crap either. Real polyurethane. Use minwax. Best selections and quality goods. If you go with 2 coats of urethane, make sure you steel wool after the first coat(very very fine steel wool) to smooth it out before you go with the 2nd coat.

The combo stuff is miniwax. The kitchen was plain uerathane. Different brands suggest different methods. I don't remember what I used on the cedar but it said 220 sandpaper in between coats and I used three coats on that. The combo stuff does say to use steel wool (000 grade I think, not that I even knew it was graded!)