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[rosco rathbone]

Strap ons?

It pulls the head close and gives me something to hold onto for the ride.

Sheesh, like you need a dick to be forceful about your oral?

I want one made out of pink latex for the girls and purple teletubby fur for the big boys.

I stand corrected.

Do you ever talk nasty; like "swallow girljuice, worm!"?

 

[Netzach]

I did see that one, R.

Doorknobs are fun.

"- Use a length of dog leash about 6 feet long and 2 small locks. Lock one end to a door knob and the other around his neck. Put BenGay on his hands and dare him to touch himself. Leave and go into another room. Use your dildo and make sure he can hear you! You'll hear him too!!!"

 

[Netzach]

With one of the three bottoms I do stuff with regularly, yes, although I think the turn of phrase might be different. I prefer the pet names "pig" "bitch" and "whore." As in "lick it, you fucking tongue whore."

"Worm" is the parlance of the femdom cartoon that male wet dreams are made of. The sister of your bozo-with-fat-belly in executioner's hood says "worm" a lot.

 

[rosco rathbone]

With one of the three bottoms I do stuff with regularly, yes, although I think the turn of phrase might be different. I prefer the pet names "pig" "bitch" and "whore." As in "lick it, you fucking tongue whore."

"Worm" is the parlance of the femdom cartoon that male wet dreams are made of. The sister of your bozo-with-fat-belly in executioner's hood says "worm" a lot.

This is a world of thought I have not entered. What does a top woman say during oral dominations.

I'd be very interested to know how you treat your female vs male bottoms during oral dominations.

Hot button humiliation names for guy bitches. Do you ever just call them "woman"? That's what I would do if I had a snatch. "Suck it, woman". I dunno. The inevitable feminization of the sexual underclass. My homo fantasies are all about the feminization of men.

Speeking of fat-bellied executioners, I have noticed that the writerdom is going bonkers lately; creating many threads dealing with sexy bdsm minutae. They must be putting hormones in the oatmeal.

 

[Netzach]

Wow, it never really occured to me that the lingo for the lingus might be all that different. What sweet nothings do you whisper to a fucked face? A face is a face, a tongue is a tongue, much as girls like to think their prowess in pussy eating is extraordinary the talent pool doesn't work that way.

I'm just one top woman, hardly representative of the populus, you must admit.

I have to look back on lickings and to be honest, I can't think of a single girl I've gotten nasty with about it. It's only recently I've really gotten into the notion of dominating the ladies, for a long time I was lukewarm on it at best, not sure why. I think I needed more confidence as a Top. Men are easier.

This trend may change. I caned the loveliest young, intellectual, lesbo switch last week who did not get all weird on me and want to move in within a week. (this is a first...see why I don't go there often? Like I said...men....easier.)

She likes humiliation too, I think she'd be into a hood like that.

I think I'd call her more or less the same names as G. A slut is a slut is a slut is a slut. I think the same things would kind of embarrass/titillate her as G. That she likes it so much, that she'd better do a good job and get me off or else, that she's simply a toy to amuse me...

While gay men tend to get off on homophobic ephitets toward one another, I don't find the same so much among women. Just a sidebar.

Nah, I don't call them "woman." It seems oddly television trailer park, hadn't occured to me. You don't suck a snatch, either, IMO, you lick it. Lick. So inherently degrading, you lick things off a floor, don't you? You lick it like the sick indiscriminate little untrained dog you know you are, who'd be pissing on my floors if I didn't keep you in line.

The feminizing ephitet "bitch" is deployed to good effect, especially in the diminuitive, eg. "little pussywhipped bitch."

Whew, sorry if I wax all poetic. I'm sure most readers prefer your degraded Filipina here, and I liked her too, trust me....
I really think you should see about going into production for those hoods.

 

[WriterDom]

I have noticed that the writerdom is going bonkers lately

you may not toss my salad. I will put in a good word with EB.

 

[rosco rathbone]

you may not toss my salad. I will put in a good word with EB.

Good to see that I am not on ignore with the cockaroaches, bro. I may have to start taking potshots at you again if you are actually following topopolis.

 

[rosco rathbone]

This trend may change. I caned the loveliest young, intellectual, lesbo switch last week

Yum. lovely. young. intellectual. lesbo. four for four, "*bingo*!"

 

[rosco rathbone]

I can dig the lickey dog thing; but I have to say: to me, there is something far more degrading about the idea of foreign substance injected into the mouth. Suck seems to imply a lot more fluid transfer than lick.

On the other hand, I think that my manneeds to emit high pressure fluid and the backedup frustration that has caused; have a lot to do with the desire to perform acts of forcible oral domination in the style to which I am accustomed. In other words, a gender-based need to say suck it?

 

[Marquis]

This cracks me up. Its like you guys are some psychologists or philosophers or something the way you analyze things I barely think about (but enjoy). Then there is the love/hate relationship between Rosco and WriterDom; where you know even though they dont like each other, they're glad the other is there to swap witty insults with.

Just out of curiousity, what do you and Netzach do. I wonder what section of the work force attracts people like y'all.

P.S. Rosco, you have homo fantasies??!!! Thats kind of shocking.

 

[rosco rathbone]

This cracks me up. Its like you guys are some psychologists or philosophers or something the way you analyze things I barely think about (but enjoy). Then there is the love/hate relationship between Rosco and WriterDom; where you know even though they dont like each other, they're glad the other is there to swap witty insults with.

Just out of curiousity, what do you and Netzach do. I wonder what section of the work force attracts people like y'all.

P.S. Rosco, you have homo fantasies??!!! Thats kind of shocking.

I don't find the writerdom witty in the slightest. I am glad he exists because he is sort of the straw man for my hate of humourless, self-important dominate masters.

I am a union ironworker. Netzach I believe is a professional dominatress.

I thought my homo fantasies were a matter of public record. I may have to do a writeup on that. Just last night thinking about how hot it would be to bang Amanda Lepore (my friend actually did this). I don't know if that counts as homo-she is post-op. Suspect, certainly.

 

[Netzach]

I am a union ironworker. Netzach I believe is a professional dominatress.

I thought my homo fantasies were a matter of public record. I may have to do a writeup on that. Just last night thinking about how hot it would be to bang Amanda Lepore (my friend actually did this). I don't know if that counts as homo-she is post-op. Suspect, certainly.

BWAA HAA HAAA HAAA HAAA! *wipes tears*

Ok, for the public record, Netzach is not (to be fair,yet) a professional dominatress.

She is a lowly and shat on retail worker, a purveyor of the truly useless and expensive to the truly degenerate: wealthy rich assholes in the 'burbs.

She's also an overeducated artist. Know anyone hiring these?

The thought is, again to be fair, occuring to me that professional manbeater is not a bad career path for me. I'm looking into it, as it were. I'm cautious that way.

Till then, ingratiating myself humbly.

~N

PS:

RR's homo fantasies, fantasies involving MTF girls, surprise me not in the least. It's the fact that he talks about them with the same aplomb as everything else that I find surprising in a good way.

PPS:
RR and I exchange witty opposed banter. RR and WriterDom exchange predictable trains of insult, but everyone needs a poster boy for what they think is stupid don't they?

PPPS: I guess I think too much. It's why I come here, on other threads some people don't think at all.

PPPPPPPPPSSSSSS.

Whadda you do?

 

[Pure]

Hi RR and all

RR:

he [WD] is sort of the straw man for my hate of humourless, self-important dominate masters.


Hey we're a class act, here. "dominant masters". "dominate"[sic], as an adjective, is far too common, and belongs in the Cafe. **{see addition below}

I don't find WD dominant, particularly, in scene or out. I'd say he's a very mild sadist (not without mixed tendencies), somewhat unsure who's in charge; though he'll 'top' by pre-agreement and pre-arrangement; it's not 'dominance', but kink, like where the guy plays doctor to someone's nurse. He is, of course, a fine fellow, somewhat literate and quite sensitive, as entitled to his kink as anyone; entitled to a complementary partner; he's just mis-labeled.

Leaving WD aside, and speaking generally: Having watched these boards, and the 'doms' and 'dommes' accounts of themselves, I don't think 'domination' is generally what the self-said ones dish out, with a few exceptions like Netzach who doesn't even use the term much (at all?). It is essentially a sadism tinged, fetishistic role play, the 'dom/me' being the gentle S, and the 'sub' being the light M. There are two main types.

1)
romantic-- both are 'in love' equals, etc. but madame likes a good caning, just as she likes candle lit dinners. She's an M, iow, perhaps with slight *dominant* tendencies, depending on the
degree of PW'ed-ness, she's accomplished, of the self said 'dom/me'. He's (She, the 'domme') a mild S, perhaps slightly and episodically top-ish, as said above.
Tends (self said dom/me) to say things like 'I worship you, my goddess. I kiss your welts and gently wipe the tear from your eye with a handkerchief of fine white linen, as pure as my love for you.'

2) not so romantic, more raw-sexy, in most cases with the 'dom/me' providing service to the self-said 'sub' essentially on the sub's terms. This dom/me is at best--as it were-- 'topping' for an hour by agreement, and at worst, is fully carrying out the fulfillment of the "M" --not sub-- wishes of the self-said sub.

Tends to say things like "Lick me, bitch, while I cane your ass.
Hey am I remembering the cane you picked? Am I doing it hard enough? Let's be sure to 'communicate'--de-brief--after, so things will get better and better for both of us, you especially."


ADDED: Ironically then, the most common folks you see dominating** a sexual or life partner are:

a) The patriarch, from Abraham to the Tony Soprano.
b) The forceful Xanthippe. Roseanne
c) The unreconstructed macho male, Stanley Kowalski.

All Vanilla!!

**What is my definition? You dominate someone to the extent that you impose your will on them; subordinate their desires to yours; command them (successfully) to serve your needs and even whims, over their own.

What's happened? Ironically, these vanilla folks recognize and operate by 'blanket consent' or contract. (for the macho guy, it's only for a short time, or one night). Hence there may be domination. Put up or shut up.

The fearful deviant, the self-said 'dom/me' has gotten so tied up(?) in caution signals and instantly effective safe words, bail out procedures, and de-briefing protocols that the possibility of genuine domination does not exist.


RR: I am a union ironworker. Netzach I believe is a professional dominatress.

Fooled ya, eh? I viewed her more as a testicular surgeon (for men) and butch gyno fiend (for women). And I admire that, greatly!

J.

PS. I'm lucky enough to be paid by a University Press for carrying out my deepest inclinations. In the supplements to their reference works, I check the commas, making sure they're there, and that there is no space before them, and one space after. Oh, and sometimes I do periods, too.


**Added: Sorry RR, forgot about your habit of aping this particular illiteracy. Btw, the way to indicate such, is to put the word in quotes, or put [sic] after, [or maybe a ] as I'm sure you know.

 

[Netzach]

*stage whisper*

pssst....I think RR is using "dominate" all tongue in cheek to differentiate from dominant, your def.

Pretty good theory.

I'm basically a type 2 who has her moments of glory.

Editor. How could I not have guessed.

Testicular surgeon. If I ever need to explain a year or two of sex work on a resume I shall put that in.

 

[rosco rathbone]

What originally made me notice the writerdom was a feeling that he was one of those people who...how to put it...have no sense of irony, and no self-awareness, self-humour. This combined with the AV of the chubby chump in an executioner's hood with flogger upraised to strike, made him utterly irresistible. He once used the phrase "the subs on the front lines" with a completely straight face .His poetry-offered in the BDSM poetry thread, also with a straight face- reads like "It Was A Dark And Stormy Night..." contest material. Oh, and when I first got here, he told me my stories had too many big words, and I ought to read Joyce Carol Oats [sic] in order to learn what people really want to read. Maybe I picked the wrong whipping boy; but who else is there? I could make richard49 cry by looking at him wrong. It would feel like picking on someone's great-aunt.

So Netzach works in high-end retail eh. Oh the rage of it all.
Now I see where the buttfucking-the-successful-man thing comes from.

 

[rosco rathbone]

The thought is, again to be fair, occuring to me that professional manbeater is not a bad career path for me. I'm looking into it, as it were. I'm cautious that way.

If I was a natural female top, I'd jump into professional wormstomping with both feet. So much ca$$h money to be made, and you can set your own hours.

The only thing I would fear is the sort of astral entanglement that all care-workers risk, from nurses, to shrinks, to social-services people. I think a lot of the clientele probably exude wormy tentacles of astral need.

Eek I just talked myself out of it.

 

[Pure]

//If I was a natural female top, I'd jump into professional wormstomping with both feet. So much ca$$h money to be made, and you can set your own hours.

The only thing I would fear is the sort of astral entanglement that all care-workers risk, from nurses, to shrinks, to social-services people. I think a lot of the clientele probably exude wormy tentacles of astral need.//

Listen, $250 per hour is $2000 per day, over 20 days, $40K/mo.
Add a few extras for half a mill per year. That can smooth over the 'wormy' spots. Do like the shrinks: office hours, answering service, strict boundaries. On the yacht, one can 'live with oneself' as easily as the proctologist in the next slip.

Oh, and another compensation is that, unlike the shrink you can call your client a 'sick fuck', and unlike the proctologist, you can call the person a bleeding asshole.

J.

 

[evesdream]

1) romantic-- both are 'in love' equals, etc. but madame likes a good caning, just as she likes candle lit dinners....

2) not so romantic, more raw-sexy, in most cases with the 'dom/me' providing service to the self-said 'sub' essentially on the sub's terms....

Hm a type that's suprisingly under represented here...maybe he only exists in our e-mail "In"boxes. The romantic despot desperado? "I've trained under Master Sassifago in the Aphaga Mountains. Come to my chalet, whore. Kneel before me. Know ye my mightee ways..."

Note, hello everyone

Note, i think i've said this before, but i work as a purveyor of feminist theory (emphasis on 'purv' ) and goddess statuettes by day. At night I sit still for artist people -which satisfies my service instinct, narcissism, and latent/suppressed exhibitionist tendancies all at once

 

[Marquis]

PS:

RR's homo fantasies, fantasies involving MTF girls, surprise me not in the least. It's the fact that he talks about them with the same aplomb as everything else that I find surprising in a good way.


Whadda you do?

Yeah, I guess you're right about his talking about the way he talks about them being kind of surprising. Personally, I was taken aback in part because I often felt like I understood him real well, and now here is a place where we obviously have split opinions. Unless, oh the horror, I have some homo feelings I dont even know about!!!

I'm a college student, but for the summer I am working for a Marketing firm.

Rosco, ever thought about going the whole gay route and going to the gay clubs and all that. Perhaps it is a horribly ignorant stereotype, but i feel like it would be easier to find subs in that company than among the worlds general populace of women (I doubt you'll be meeting any of them at the steel plant).

 

[rosco rathbone]

Rosco, ever thought about going the whole gay route and going to the gay clubs and all that. Perhaps it is a horribly ignorant stereotype, but i feel like it would be easier to find subs in that company than among the worlds general populace of women (I doubt you'll be meeting any of them at the steel plant).

I have picked up several girlie TV's on Tranny-Chaser Night at various places, but "going the gay route" is quite unlikely. It is just a sexual sideline for me-I think of them as "woman substitutes".

The gays that I am attracted to-the very "passable", female-looking TV/TSs-are highly sought after and as used to male attention as any beautiful regular women. Chasing the oft-chased is not my thing at all. I'd rather stay home and jack, so Amanda Lepore remains an idle fantasy.

 

[Marquis]

This is so interesting. I always wondered who was clicking on the Transvestite links on the porn sites. Rosco, have you ever been in jail by any chance?

 

[rosco rathbone]

Not only have I never been in jail; I have never had even so much as a parking ticket.

BTW, steelworkers work in steelmills. Ironworkers take their product and build things with it.

I have banged pre-ops (hookers) that, minus the hormone-shrunken teeny peeny, would fool any man into thinking they were the big-assed, big-titted hoochie mamas they were impersonating. I have also intercoursed with TVs where a lot of imagination was required, not to mention dim lighting.

Sometimes I think I am Dennis Hopper in "Blue Velvet"..."I'll fuck ANYTHING THAT MOVES!" *inhales from bottle of unknown gas* (amyl?)

 

[Marquis]

Thanks for the correction about Ironworkers. So what stage are you at? Do you melt things down and put them in molds, or do you assemble stuff?

Here's the real question though. If you had your pick, would you take an average looking female or Amanda Lepore.

Also, I was wondering, if they can shrink your weeny with hormones, why cant they grow it!!

 

[rosco rathbone]

Melting things down is still steelworkers. Cranes and girders and climbing around on high buildings is ironworkers-from the days when buildings had cast-iron structural members. Structural-steel erection.

I'd take Amanda Lepore over the average female any day.

Like times arrow; the direction of weenies only works one way.

 

[Netzach]

//If I was a natural female top, I'd jump into professional wormstomping with both feet. So much ca$$h money to be made, and you can set your own hours.

The only thing I would fear is the sort of astral entanglement that all care-workers risk, from nurses, to shrinks, to social-services people. I think a lot of the clientele probably exude wormy tentacles of astral need.//

Listen, $250 per hour is $2000 per day, over 20 days, $40K/mo.
Add a few extras for half a mill per year. That can smooth over the 'wormy' spots. Do like the shrinks: office hours, answering service, strict boundaries. On the yacht, one can 'live with oneself' as easily as the proctologist in the next slip.

Oh, and another compensation is that, unlike the shrink you can call your client a 'sick fuck', and unlike the proctologist, you can call the person a bleeding asshole.

J.

Dude! What're you smoking, do you even think Midori or Ilsa Strix have that many freaking clients, or could stand it?

I'll take the 8 hour work week though, if I can get it, forgo the yacht and go back to school. 30+ K and a happy life, is that so much to ask?

Astral tentacles can be warded off with enough yoga or deep breathing or even bottoming, if I follow the cues from my social-work friends.