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My English ancestors were planters near colonial Wmsburg. Maybe my great granpappy knew your great grandpappy, brnsga.
 
P. B. Walker said:


I think we can all see that CBM did *not* use the "N" word in a friendly manner toward Ebonyfire. If anything, it was just as bad an insult as if I had used the "N" word. I also feel that this creates a double standard. It's ok for one group of people to use a word, while it's unacceptable for another group. That's BS in my opinion. That's just the way I feel.



Again, I see a distinction here. What is said between two friends is much different that what is said here between board members. I do not think I'm wrong when I say CBM and Ebonyfire are not friends. So this statement does not apply. And I'm pretty damn sure CBM didn't follow up his use of the "N" word with a giggle.



Again, I find that creates a double standard. JMHO.

I do not mean to argue with you MissT, I am just a bit disappointed in the policy here concerning racial slurs, as hopefully many others are.

PBW

My fault for a bit of a MissUnderstanding! I thought we referencing comments made between CBM and brnsgr.

Hence, my discussion concerning the "friendly" use of derrogatory terms.

:)

No, I never use the "don't let the door hit you in the ass" line. I think that is rather callous, if you must know. However, if we start editing racial slurs, then we will have to edit slurs that might otherwise be personal. i.e. fag, cunt. slut, fatso, dumbass, etc.

I do believe in treating others with respect, always.
Even Hanns has only risen to the level of being called a "twit" by me. Hmmm no, I told him he was funny like a yeast infection as well. IN any event, we aren't going to find good manners on the net.

It is a nice safe place to be as aggressive and demeaning as you please, sans consequences.

Sorry for the misunderstanding.

And pure, IMHO, it is never okay to insult. I do believe that I understand what you are saying, but "insult" was a poor choice of words. However, being a "hot, pervy cracker slut" is cool in my book ;)

Now, I am going to leave this discussion, rather than draw it out.

PBW, you may have fodder for a GB thread.
I would be curious to see what the response there might be.

Take care all!
 
MissTaken said:
My fault for a bit of a MissUnderstanding! I thought we referencing comments made between CBM and brnsgr.

Hence, my discussion concerning the "friendly" use of derrogatory terms.

:)

No, I never use the "don't let the door hit you in the ass" line. I think that is rather callous, if you must know. However, if we start editing racial slurs, then we will have to edit slurs that might otherwise be personal. i.e. fag, cunt. slut, fatso, dumbass, etc.

I do believe in treating others with respect, always.
Even Hanns has only risen to the level of being called a "twit" by me. Hmmm no, I told him he was funny like a yeast infection as well. IN any event, we aren't going to find good manners on the net.

It is a nice safe place to be as aggressive and demeaning as you please, sans consequences.

Sorry for the misunderstanding.

And pure, IMHO, it is never okay to insult. I do believe that I understand what you are saying, but "insult" was a poor choice of words. However, being a "hot, pervy cracker slut" is cool in my book ;)

Now, I am going to leave this discussion, rather than draw it out.

PBW, you may have fodder for a GB thread.
I would be curious to see what the response there might be.

Take care all!

Thanks MissT. I do understand why the policy is in place. Once we start limiting one kind of speech, we have to limit others. And I know there is nothing I can do about it and that I will just have to accept it. I just do not like it. I also do not agree with the use of "friendly" derogatory terms. Obviously that stuff is acceptable in PM's and other private discussion, but putting it out in a public forum just makes it seem all the more acceptable. Again, JMHO.

I'll leave the GB discussion for my more learned collegues. Good day.

PBW
 
I refuse to be held responsible for killing this thread.

So, spank me, now and hard, please.

;)


I was reading your comments about boring sex, rosco.

Could any of you return to plain, ole missionary sex after experiencing the intensity of BDSM?

I can't.

Nope.

No way.
 
MissTaken said:

I was reading your comments about boring sex, rosco.

Could any of you return to plain, ole missionary sex after experiencing the intensity of BDSM?

I can't.

Nope.

No way.

I can. Especially if love is involved. But then, BDSM has never been 100% of my sexuality, at most it is about 40 or 50%. I could never do without that heated embrace, when my body is penetrating hers repeatedly at a high rate of speed and her nails are clawing track marks down my back while her heels pound a beat into the backs of my thighs. But that doesn't mean I won't get the urge to redden her ass from time to time. ;)

I think we each have our own brand of sexuality that turns us on. And almost all of it is cool in my book, except stuff like kiddies, etc., etc., etc.

PBW
 
I think I need to leave the forum for tonight.

Between your post, PBW and one or two of my own, I am just getting that urge for some raw, hot, rough sex,.

That is all well and good, but I am sitting here with a cup of coffee in my flannel pj's with the kidlings sleeping in the next room.

*sigh*

Sometimes, it is almost a craving to have a red ass.

Do you ever get that very base, instinctual need for play?
 
MissTaken said:
I think I need to leave the forum for tonight.

Between your post, PBW and one or two of my own, I am just getting that urge for some raw, hot, rough sex,.

That is all well and good, but I am sitting here with a cup of coffee in my flannel pj's with the kidlings sleeping in the next room.

*sigh*

Sometimes, it is almost a craving to have a red ass.

Do you ever get that very base, instinctual need for play?


Opps... :) Sorry MissT. Didn't mean to put you in a uhmm... state.

I'll hush.

PBW
 
PBW, you just don't know when to leave things alone, witness:

PBW:

I also do not agree with the use of "friendly" derogatory terms. Obviously that stuff is acceptable in PM's and other private discussion, but putting it out in a public forum just makes it seem all the more acceptable. Again, JMHO.


and earlier:

I also feel that racial slurs are still racial slurs no matter who uses them. JMHO, sorry to disagree with you. Of course it would be silly for me to make assumptions that I won't see words like "fucktard", etc. But I think I should be able to make some small assumptions that I don't have to sit here reading racial slurs every other post. It's sad to see that Literotica allows, and by inference condones it since nothing is done when someone uses such racial slurs. ...


I suppose you have some comedic purpose, like the entertainer who comes out with no pants and says "There just ain't no decorum in this place."

Your profession to Miss T and others about non-racist talk, decorum, not having to read trashy comments is similarly entertaining.

Since you brought it up, and posted a link, and keep saying 'bum rap' lets look at just a small sample of you, letting loose:

[12-22-02, page 9, this thread]

Yeah, whatever dickless faggot racist pervert. [..] You would probably be one of the fucking traitor pukes that serves for Osama, ya ugly fatass pussy. How often do you jack off thinking about Arab creampie? If you don't like this country and it's leadership, GET THE FUCK OUT you motherfucking cocksucker. Get off welfare and fucking do something, ya blob of shit.
[...] Fucking retard racist traitor faggots should be shot and hanged.


Let's see, that's

faggot
racist
pervert
traitor puke
fatass pussy
thinking about Arab creampie (while jacking off)
cocksucker
[on] welfare
blob of shit
retard

(and so on, with some repeats)

I see it's a real problem for the polite sort like you to "sit here reading racial slurs."

Since the 'welfare' remark is already commented on, let's look at
"Arab creampie".... might that not be a 'racist slur'?
What exactly is wrong with Arab creampie? Is it all made by Osama? Is it inferior to white creampie? I wouldn't mind getting a hold of some of it...

Besides the racial slur, there's all kinds of other stuff, that no doubt you find less offensive than 'nigger'. Like 'retard'. I guess the 'slow' folks have to put up with that word to insult others, much like the word "Jew" applied to non-Jews in some cases.

Anyway, as I said, the comedic effect is quite perfect, and I congratulate you on being willing to cut a ridiculous figure to make a point about decorum.

By the way, brnsuga is not the only person to infer racism. You might think about that. The Marquis is pretty sane and not given to extremes, here is what he said, a while after your outburst.


Actually, the more I think about it, the more what PBW said pisses me off. I understand what you [zipman] are saying about making generalizations to get at people, but its funny that welfare would be the generalization PBW would think of. There is a lot of other generalizations you could make about CBM, and even if PBW wanted to make a tasteless joke about him being black, there was no reason to jump to the welfare comment.


So we're not dealing with one crank (brnsuga), as you claim. It looks like 3 of 4 Black people on this thread felt the racism. And were that not sufficient, the remark above about Arab women equally demonstrates the point. And were that not sufficient, there's the abundance of 7th grade 'faggot' talk--not racism exactly, just bigotry.

So, now that you've got us rolling in the aisles, let up on the routine.... it might be a good opportunity for a quick exit, stage left.

J.
 
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Pure said:
PBW, you just don't know when to leave things alone, witness:

I suppose you would shut up and say nothing when you were falsely accused of being a liar and racist. I seem to remember you being quite vocal when you were accused of being that person OO.


I suppose you have some comedic purpose, like the entertainer who comes out with no pants and says "There just ain't no decorum in this place."

I'm sorry you find this topic so amusing.


Your profession to Miss T and others about non-racist talk, decorum, not having to read trashy comments is similarly entertaining.

Yes, I don't care to read racial slurs. I'm also sorry you find that statement so amusing.



Since the 'welfare' remark is already commented on, let's look at
"Arab creampie".... might that not be a 'racist slur'?
What exactly is wrong with Arab creampie? Is it inferior to white creampie? I wouldn't mind getting a hold of some...

Besides the racial slur, there's all kinds of other stuff, that no doubt you find less offensive than 'nigger'. Like 'retard'. I guess the 'slow' folks have to put up with that word to insult others, much like the word "Jew" applied to non-Jews in some cases.

I don't remember making a statement about not liking to read curse words and other such put-downs. In fact, I believe I said I clearly understood those types of words would be used here, "here" being a porn site. I don't see how any of those words are racial either. As for Arab creampie, I believe that means a "well fucked pussy with cum in it that belongs to a woman of Arab decent". Please explain why that is a slur. Are Arab people, not in fact Arab? Should I call it Middle Eastern creampie? Or maybe Creampie of an Arab woman? Or Creampie de Arab? To me, that is a descriptive statement, not a label. Also, the last time I checked, retard was not a race.


By the way, brnsuga is not the only person to infer racism. You might think about that. The Marquis is pretty sane and not given to extremes, here is what he said, a while after your outburst.

I believe I addressed Marquis concern in my initial post rebluffing brnsuga's claim. I am not generalizing about a race. I do indeed feel that way about CBM, who last time I checked is one person. I do not see calling one person a name is a generalization about an entire race. That would be like saying all german people are murderers just because Hitler committed genocide.

How does believing that one man is a gay man make me a bigot? I have read his posts and I feel that deep down he is indeed "in the closet". Is it bigotry to call him that? When I check, a bigot is an intolerant, prejudice person. I'm not intolerant or prejudice toward homosexuals in the least. Also, how would a bigoted person be seen as a racist? The catholic church is pretty much anti-gay, does that also make them racists? You say "not racism exactly, just bigotry." Not exactly? Try "no where close".

Again, I am sorry, and even a bit sadden that you find this such a hiliarious topic.

Have a nice day.

Exiting stage right,

PBW
 
How ironic that a well documented avowed racist fat-ass would falsely castigate another for allegedly being what he most certainly is, i.e. fat and racist. :D
 
P. B. Walker said:
I believe I addressed Marquis concern in my initial post rebluffing brnsuga's claim.

Sorry to dissapoint you...

But I am keeping out of these things these days. Who's up for some good old fashioned talking about sex?
 
P. B. Walker said:

If I come off as a big prick, so be it. ... I'm sure there is a fair number of people here who think I'm the biggest ass on the planet.

PBW

There is an ancient saying which is relevant to the proclamation you made above. It goes something like this:

"It is better to let other people THINK you don't know anything than to open your mouth and CONFIRM it".

First, as a point of clarification, I am far from the patriot you characterized me to be. I was saying that I loved this country in the same way that I love all civilized societies. Just as I would never ask God to bless only one member of my family, I would never say "God Bless America" . Instead I say "God Bless the World".

I do agree with Pure. Stop before you hurt yourself any further. I can only (charitably) describe your arguments as specious. Maybe Pure is correct - you MUST be pretending to be THIS obtuse (e.g., You say you disapprove of slurs; Pure proves that you use slurs; You respond by saying it's OK to accuse a person of being gay. This response was a total nonsequitur - the topic was not whether you support homosexuality, the topic was whether you support the usage of slurs, specifically referring to your use of the term faggot. ) Over and over, your answers show that you are unable to comprehend what is being said to you. So just give yourself a break and let it rest. At this point, I'm embarrassed for you.
 
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Marquis said:
Sorry to dissapoint you...

But I am keeping out of these things these days. Who's up for some good old fashioned talking about sex?

Oh no you didn't, Mister Man!

RR and I have posted several messages asking you for details on what happened before your room mate encountered your girlfriend tied up on your bed. And have you paid any attention to us? No you haven't. And now YOU want to talk to US about sex???!!!!

Wait a minute ... I hear a sound in front of my house...Oh, what's that?...Why, it's a huff and I'm leaving in it!


Smooches ;- )
from brnsuga
 
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This happened yesterday, in a marble vestibule just out of the blowing snow.

I slammed her back in to a corner and opened up all the fasteners down the front of her green wool coat. Her eyelashes were solid snow.

"You live for these moments, don't you?"

I just smirked, opened her coat, reached inside, and grabbed her small, warm asscheeks with cold pincer hands.

"Why do you think you can just touch me any time you feel like it?"

I squeezed as hard as I could, trying to leave paw prints all over that little dancer butt. She winced and tried to pull away. I grabbed her face with one hand, squeezing it into a fishmouth, and kissed her hard. She fought to break free. I yanked her face back, leaning into her.

"It makes you mad that I touch you whenever I want, doesn't it?"

She stares at me with angry eyes and so I slowly lick my finger and jam it into her mouth to the last knuckle, one hand holding her jaw steady like a dog being fed a pill. I work it slowly in and out, penis-fashion, looking into her rolling, outraged eyes the whole time.

These little things happen between us sometimes.
 
A Question for RR:
(Inquiring minds want to know)

What were the effects psychological and other, on the lady in question, of that incident? In particular was she aroused by it?

I realize, for the first question that you may have few objective indicators, and can't read minds, but things she says, during and after, may be clues.

J.
 
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I have to say that roscoe's account was a bit exciting. I wouldn't like it like that all the time. Soemtiems a bit of a sweetness is in order...

So rosco...the lady, does she get your sweetness to?

And seriously, I have read some, but not all of your posts. Is your enjoyment of violent sex in some way indicative of how you view women on the whole?

Now, what might have happened if she raised her knee or lashed out at you?

Just a few random questions...

Gawd! I love sex talk!
 
I was thinking of chomping down on his finger, myself. But then again....


I rather liked the whole scene *grin*.
 
This particular lady loves it, but she is totally incapable of asking for what she wants and will in fact fight hard to avoid getting it.

Miss T, she and I were talking about that the other night. I think I am more of a misogynist than she does.

Yes, I am very sweet and affectionate to her as well, but that doesn't really make for good Topopolis reading.
 
Oh, she also has major issues regarding PDE and is very easily embarrassed and humilated, which is completely irresistible to me. NAturally, I manhandle, assslap, pimpwalk, grope, and otherwise touch her in public whenever I get the chance. Her anger at this is the sweetest aphrodisiac to me.
 
AnelizeDarkEyes said:
I was thinking of chomping down on his finger, myself. But then again....


I rather liked the whole scene *grin*.

That sort of thing is not entirely out of the question, but if she'd done that, I would have looked over my shoulder for passersby (it was deserted and snowing) and then slapped her to her knees.
 
Marquis said:
Sorry to dissapoint you...

But I am keeping out of these things these days. Who's up for some good old fashioned talking about sex?

Pure said:
By the way, brnsuga is not the only person to infer racism. You might think about that. The Marquis is pretty sane and not given to extremes, here is what he said, a while after your outburst.
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Pure said:
So we're not dealing with one crank (brnsuga), as you claim. It looks like 3 of 4 Black people on this thread felt the racism.
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You can direct your statements to Pure in regards to bringing your name into this situation.

Before being attacked, sex and being pervy was about all I did talk about.

Have a good day Marquis and I hope you aren't snowed in too bad (assuming you are up here in DC).

PBW
 
Hey PBW, that's kinda cute. Some sort of zen technique in those blind swordsman movies when the sword guy comes out and bumbles around, crashing into things, giving an impression of utter clumsiness. You said,


Yes, I don't care to read racial slurs. I'm also sorry you find that statement so amusing. [...]

I don't remember making a statement about not liking to read curse words and other such put-downs. In fact, I believe I said I clearly understood those types of words would be used here, "here" being a porn site. I don't see how any of those words are racial either. As for Arab creampie, I believe that means a "well fucked pussy with cum in it that belongs to a woman of Arab decent". Please explain why that is a slur. Are Arab people, not in fact Arab? Should I call it Middle Eastern creampie? Or maybe Creampie of an Arab woman? Or Creampie de Arab? To me, that is a descriptive statement, not a label. Also, the last time I checked, retard was not a race.


You want to focus only on 'racial slurs' and maybe you don't mind 'reading' (=making) 'curse words and other such put-downs'

To your list again.

faggot
racist
pervert
traitor puke
fatass pussy
thinking about Arab creampie (while jacking off)
cocksucker
[on] welfare
blob of shit
retard


It's intended to be uncomplimentary, no? such words as 'blob of shit', 'puke'. All terms appear to be such. We infer they are intended as such, esp, knowing there to be a fit of temper.

So it's clear that 'faggot' is uncomplimentary, and if we weren't sure, 'cocksucker' is there. It's clearly a homophobic slur, not merely a 'curse word' or 'put down.'

So 'retard' too is set out there as uncomplimentary; it's a standard 6th grade insult. You thus slur the retarded.

Let's look at the list according to activities
The traitor betrays his country; the cocksucker, sucks cock, etc.

So we've got a parallel series of what you set out as despicable and low-life acts:

Betraying country, sucking cock, "serving for Osama," and (original quote) "you jack off thinking of Arab creampie."

Sucking cock is like betraying country, in the equation. Low.
So there's a homophobic slur.

Jacking off thinking of Arab creampie is, on the list, also like betraying country and connected to the accusation of serving Osama.

Jacking off is set out as an insult to the person, who's also called 'pussy' and 'dickless'.

Now we ask, why the phrase "Arab creampie". Why didn't the speaker just say, 'thinking of a Playboy centrefolds' creampie"? or "thinking of Jenna J's creampie" ?

That loses something, doesn't it? No insult. But "Thinking of a syphylitic cream pie." That would work, wouldn't it? Now one sees why _Arab_ creampie is mentioned: it's set out by the speaker as a low or disgusting thing. You're indicating that fellow eats this low form of creampie, and that, for you, is an Arab one.

So you insult Arab women, not just the j.o. who thinks of them.
That is a racial slur, regardless of the fact that the term "Arab" is not itself a slur. Compare, if I were--hypothetically-- to call you, "A dim-wit Caucasian cum-sucker."

So we're back to decorum, fairness, respect--about which you sometimes profess great dedication. Then in a fit of temper--for which you've never apologized**-- you blow it sky high. No doubt some mysterious lesson you're trying to convey about the transience of worldly glory.

Sic transit.. etc.

J.



**for instance, to all of us with retarded kids among family and friends.
 
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I gotta respect Sgt. PBW for not running up the white flag despite the fact that he is pinned down in a withering rhetorical crossfire. With most of his platoon dead or dying, however, it doesn't look as if he'll be getting out of this tight spot in one piece.
 
well, rr, i want to hear about the lady in question's reactions? i was gonna say, if you do, i'd ship you a bottle of the finest single malt scotch, but i'll have to change that to five pounds of Kenya's finest coffee, or Hawaii's, your choice.

cracker ho j
 
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