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breast objectification
a topic that came up a couple weeks back...
I was thinking of the Annie Sprinkle thing where she was exposed on a platform, a speculum inserted. She was positioned near the edge so that people could come up and view her cervix.... Quite a line up, stretching around the block. Kind of 'female empowerment.'
This present idea draws on Annie and is also a variation of the old 'glory hole'. We might call them: "Tit Glory Holes."
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There is a booth, in which a woman stands, or sits, enclosed. No one sees inside.
She is there by her lover for disciplinaray reasons. She is there by consent, but may not withdraw for a stated period, say 3 hours.
The booth has a front wall, designed thus:
There are two holes at the proper high, maybe 4 ins. in diameter, allowing her bare breasts to come through.
At the face level, there is an opening, but with a clear plastic dome, so her face can be seen but not touched. Or a curtain may be dropped over it. I think perhaps it would be good for her to hear comments, but not for her to be heard by customers if she talks, moans, or whatever.
There is slight freedom of movement, but she is strapped into place across her back, so that her chest remains in contact with the wall, exposing the breasts to those on the other side. The wall prevents other touching, either of her, or by her. A bodyguard ensures her compliance for the time, but also prevents any serious harm.
This is in a relatively public venue, like a mall or park, and a sign says, Per minute, per breast: "Touch , 5 cents; Fondle, 10 cents; Lick, 20 cents. Pinch, 25 cents--Group rates."
Perhaps, as at a hot dog stand, there could be condiments such as syrups, honeys, chocolate sauce, salsa what ever.
The tits for health reasons would be washed down frequently-- indeed washers might be happy to pay also.
Perhaps after hours, the list of activities could be extended to allow coming on or peeing on, whipping--with small soft whip provided.
The idea is to allow all and sundry, curious young to lecherous old, both sexes. Some of course would try to please, others to make her look uncomfortable or pained. Of course there may be two people with opposite ideas playing at respective breasts. Some would prefer not to see the face.
As a variation the boobs could be (body) painted so as to look not quite real; so many people think it's just fake, red plastic boobs, like on a sex doll. The face would be covered, in this case and if she's quiet and doesn't squirm too much, it might, at first, be unclear to someone if they are real.
a topic that came up a couple weeks back...
I was thinking of the Annie Sprinkle thing where she was exposed on a platform, a speculum inserted. She was positioned near the edge so that people could come up and view her cervix.... Quite a line up, stretching around the block. Kind of 'female empowerment.'
This present idea draws on Annie and is also a variation of the old 'glory hole'. We might call them: "Tit Glory Holes."
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There is a booth, in which a woman stands, or sits, enclosed. No one sees inside.
She is there by her lover for disciplinaray reasons. She is there by consent, but may not withdraw for a stated period, say 3 hours.
The booth has a front wall, designed thus:
There are two holes at the proper high, maybe 4 ins. in diameter, allowing her bare breasts to come through.
At the face level, there is an opening, but with a clear plastic dome, so her face can be seen but not touched. Or a curtain may be dropped over it. I think perhaps it would be good for her to hear comments, but not for her to be heard by customers if she talks, moans, or whatever.
There is slight freedom of movement, but she is strapped into place across her back, so that her chest remains in contact with the wall, exposing the breasts to those on the other side. The wall prevents other touching, either of her, or by her. A bodyguard ensures her compliance for the time, but also prevents any serious harm.
This is in a relatively public venue, like a mall or park, and a sign says, Per minute, per breast: "Touch , 5 cents; Fondle, 10 cents; Lick, 20 cents. Pinch, 25 cents--Group rates."
Perhaps, as at a hot dog stand, there could be condiments such as syrups, honeys, chocolate sauce, salsa what ever.
The tits for health reasons would be washed down frequently-- indeed washers might be happy to pay also.
Perhaps after hours, the list of activities could be extended to allow coming on or peeing on, whipping--with small soft whip provided.
The idea is to allow all and sundry, curious young to lecherous old, both sexes. Some of course would try to please, others to make her look uncomfortable or pained. Of course there may be two people with opposite ideas playing at respective breasts. Some would prefer not to see the face.
As a variation the boobs could be (body) painted so as to look not quite real; so many people think it's just fake, red plastic boobs, like on a sex doll. The face would be covered, in this case and if she's quiet and doesn't squirm too much, it might, at first, be unclear to someone if they are real.
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I wanted to come back and riff on pure's idea a little.
something so exaggerated about this, and I find it silly. Then I imagine sitting there, waiting for the event to start, not knowing when the curtains will open. not knowing when hands will touch. laughter, mocking. also lust.
I altered this to be something that looks more like a little puppet theatre, with a black curtain that opens to reveal her torso. her arms are cuffed behind her back, her face concealed above the 'frame'. Both the theatre booth and the under-bust corset she wears are antique.
In some fine old theatres and banquet halls, the washrooms have a comfortable lobby with seating before you get to the sinks and toilets. I'd like to have the booth set up in that lounge area of the men's washroom at a very fancy and elegant event, like a gala opening or awards ceremony. No! A high society wedding! The curtains are closed, but every few moments, as someone passes by, the curtains open to reveal lovely breasts - a surprise.
I love this detail - the cheapness. This is what makes it fully demeaning. I'd ad "slap" or "smack" to the list, just as encouragement.
An elegantly dressed man with white gloves might offer a wet sponge and towel, or wipe her himself between patrons as they wait their turn. Word would get round, and many would come to see this sexy curiosity, though she would remain a secret to the larger venue. Patrons are welcomed to return at the end of the evening for the opportunity to use her further.
something so exaggerated about this, and I find it silly. Then I imagine sitting there, waiting for the event to start, not knowing when the curtains will open. not knowing when hands will touch. laughter, mocking. also lust.
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that's a fine scene, olivia,
we must not forget the trolls, either, the untermeschen that RR is always considerate of; the horny and/or unwashed.
also the pimply faced young men in need of education, brought by dear old dad.
after hours activity could include the $2 tit fuck, for the case where the breasts are big enough or othewise suitable to be brought together; a dab of lubricant supplied for 25 cents.
word of this could be leaked to the evangelical venues, since it's perfect for young men who've taken the 'no sex till marriage' vow.
we must not forget the trolls, either, the untermeschen that RR is always considerate of; the horny and/or unwashed.
also the pimply faced young men in need of education, brought by dear old dad.
after hours activity could include the $2 tit fuck, for the case where the breasts are big enough or othewise suitable to be brought together; a dab of lubricant supplied for 25 cents.
word of this could be leaked to the evangelical venues, since it's perfect for young men who've taken the 'no sex till marriage' vow.
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You're an evil genius. When I imagine this, the breasts are large and lovely, the nipples very erect. Of course, she would be most interesting to those who are most hungering to touch a women - the inexperienced, the decades-married, the righteous.Pure said:
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aw, corruption,
one cannot say too much in its favor.
the inexperienced, the decades married and the righteous are among the proper targets, those who enter Objectland, Tit Area.
yes, nipples that become very erect are a fine symbol of biological determinism; the body 'does its own thing,' which all present understand as 'acting like a ho,' saying 'do me' to anyone who strokes those areas.
she, on display, unable to talk to visitors, can hear them:
Righteous Dad: Son, I want to show you something.
Righteous Son: OK.
RD: Do you know about 'whores'?
RS: They sell sex.
RD: No, I mean the lowest, the ones who'd give it away, perhaps for a snort of crack. They can't help themselves. Watch. Stroke the dark part of this whore's nipple.
RS: [does so]
RD: See how it pops up! You know about erections.
RS. Yes Dad. It means ready for sex; that what the biology teacher said to us males.
RD: She's ready, or almost; pull a little at the tip, roll it like a cigarette, till it's full up.
RS: [does] Wow.
RD: She's wantin' it, you see! You're only 15, son, and it would be a crime in every state, but for a couple bucks, or nothin', she'd do you as quick as a turnstyle jumper gets into the subway.
one cannot say too much in its favor.
the inexperienced, the decades married and the righteous are among the proper targets, those who enter Objectland, Tit Area.
yes, nipples that become very erect are a fine symbol of biological determinism; the body 'does its own thing,' which all present understand as 'acting like a ho,' saying 'do me' to anyone who strokes those areas.
she, on display, unable to talk to visitors, can hear them:
Righteous Dad: Son, I want to show you something.
Righteous Son: OK.
RD: Do you know about 'whores'?
RS: They sell sex.
RD: No, I mean the lowest, the ones who'd give it away, perhaps for a snort of crack. They can't help themselves. Watch. Stroke the dark part of this whore's nipple.
RS: [does so]
RD: See how it pops up! You know about erections.
RS. Yes Dad. It means ready for sex; that what the biology teacher said to us males.
RD: She's ready, or almost; pull a little at the tip, roll it like a cigarette, till it's full up.
RS: [does] Wow.
RD: She's wantin' it, you see! You're only 15, son, and it would be a crime in every state, but for a couple bucks, or nothin', she'd do you as quick as a turnstyle jumper gets into the subway.
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hi olivia,
i swear i'm not making this up!
http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/Co...geid=971358637177&c=Article&cid=1150408210765
[start]
Art school serves up breast milk cocktail
Jun. 16, 2006. 08:44 AM
Toronto Star
JUDY STOFFMAN
ENTERTAINMENT REPORTER
Mother's milk may be the healthiest food for babies, but is it art?
Yes, according to Jess Dobkin, a lesbian mother and artist who will present her work Lactation Station Breast Milk Bar on July 13 at the Ontario College of Art and Design, the institution of higher learning that a few years ago brought you vomiting as performance art.
The audience will be invited to sip during cocktail hours (5 to 8 p.m.) small cups of pasteurized breast milk donated by six lactating new mothers in the community. Dobkin has obtained a breast milk pasteurizer and will have the milk tested by a lab.
"I am taking all precautions," she said in an interview. "Donors have all been screened."
She is also designing a unique serving vessel for each woman. "I conducted interviews with all the donors and I worked with each to envision the appropriate serving device, the way different glasses are used for red or white wine. The vessel is designed to bring out the uniqueness of each woman's milk."
Following the "tasting," there will be an artist's talk and discussion.
Dobkin, who came to Toronto from New York, and has received grants from the Toronto Arts Council and the Ontario Arts Council, said in a news release she became interested in taboos surrounding breastfeeding.
"This project re-contextualizes something often regarded as indecent or repellent, offering a celebratory view," the 36-year-old said. "A substance that nourishes us in our infancy later becomes a curiosity in adulthood."
[end]
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we forgot the lactation station-- and perhaps you, certainly i, would have a different design in mind!
i swear i'm not making this up!
http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/Co...geid=971358637177&c=Article&cid=1150408210765
[start]
Art school serves up breast milk cocktail
Jun. 16, 2006. 08:44 AM
Toronto Star
JUDY STOFFMAN
ENTERTAINMENT REPORTER
Mother's milk may be the healthiest food for babies, but is it art?
Yes, according to Jess Dobkin, a lesbian mother and artist who will present her work Lactation Station Breast Milk Bar on July 13 at the Ontario College of Art and Design, the institution of higher learning that a few years ago brought you vomiting as performance art.
The audience will be invited to sip during cocktail hours (5 to 8 p.m.) small cups of pasteurized breast milk donated by six lactating new mothers in the community. Dobkin has obtained a breast milk pasteurizer and will have the milk tested by a lab.
"I am taking all precautions," she said in an interview. "Donors have all been screened."
She is also designing a unique serving vessel for each woman. "I conducted interviews with all the donors and I worked with each to envision the appropriate serving device, the way different glasses are used for red or white wine. The vessel is designed to bring out the uniqueness of each woman's milk."
Following the "tasting," there will be an artist's talk and discussion.
Dobkin, who came to Toronto from New York, and has received grants from the Toronto Arts Council and the Ontario Arts Council, said in a news release she became interested in taboos surrounding breastfeeding.
"This project re-contextualizes something often regarded as indecent or repellent, offering a celebratory view," the 36-year-old said. "A substance that nourishes us in our infancy later becomes a curiosity in adulthood."
[end]
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we forgot the lactation station-- and perhaps you, certainly i, would have a different design in mind!
Olivia_Yearns
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Thougts along these lines are like hits of the seventies. I don't play them very often anymore, but once in a while, I hear the opening notes, and I just light up, and that's all I want to hear for a while. So intimate to talk about. I think the stuff you've written about (and that I've responded to) resonates for others who might hesitate to say so right here on the boards. I know I hold back some of what I'm thinking.Pure said:...
we forgot the lactation station-- and perhaps you, certainly i, would have a different design in mind!
By the way, the aesthetic of my av was inspired partly by this thread.
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It's very evocative, your av, Olivia.
You are quite lovely.
You are quite lovely.
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I like that line - "it's up to us to keep them smoulderin' in their closets". To me, lit is a big closet where we all play together in the dark, without seeing each other.
My av is me. I'll paste my sigline in here, in case you have it turned off, cause there is another pic that goes with the av - a different view.
How shall I picture you?
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My av is me. I'll paste my sigline in here, in case you have it turned off, cause there is another pic that goes with the av - a different view.
How shall I picture you?
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newest picture .................. T and A. .................... Body
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time for a new twist--the receptacle; another sort of 'objectification'
the top or sadist essentially uses the other for a receptacle.
in case we have a MF, top/bottom situation, he, the top, is going to use one or more entrances to her body.
considering the mouth, for the moment:
coming in her mouth is pretty old stuff, so let's escalate one step. he finds a second playmate and comes in her mouth. as directed, the playmate then spits the semen into the bottom's mouth. in other words, that mouth is just a receptacle. the jizz has become an object to be disposed of. ('snowball 'is not a common topic in these parts)
a slightly different scene. she's on hands and knees, head lowered and butt up. he inserts a large funnel (that can hold a liter) with a long 'nose' (say 5 ins.). into her ass he pisses into the funnel and fills her up with warm piss, which she is to retain for a specified period.
combining the two ideas: he uses the funnel with the playmate, who's taken care, first, of a thorough internal cleansing. on filling her, he directs her to squat over the bottom (lying supine) and discharge into her mouth ('golden deluge'). again, the piss, being second hand, is 'objectified'. hence perhaps a bit harder for the bottom to swallow, so to say. the 'receptacle' nature of the bottoms mouth is heavily emphasized (to say the least!).
the top or sadist essentially uses the other for a receptacle.
in case we have a MF, top/bottom situation, he, the top, is going to use one or more entrances to her body.
considering the mouth, for the moment:
coming in her mouth is pretty old stuff, so let's escalate one step. he finds a second playmate and comes in her mouth. as directed, the playmate then spits the semen into the bottom's mouth. in other words, that mouth is just a receptacle. the jizz has become an object to be disposed of. ('snowball 'is not a common topic in these parts)
a slightly different scene. she's on hands and knees, head lowered and butt up. he inserts a large funnel (that can hold a liter) with a long 'nose' (say 5 ins.). into her ass he pisses into the funnel and fills her up with warm piss, which she is to retain for a specified period.
combining the two ideas: he uses the funnel with the playmate, who's taken care, first, of a thorough internal cleansing. on filling her, he directs her to squat over the bottom (lying supine) and discharge into her mouth ('golden deluge'). again, the piss, being second hand, is 'objectified'. hence perhaps a bit harder for the bottom to swallow, so to say. the 'receptacle' nature of the bottoms mouth is heavily emphasized (to say the least!).
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scenes of objectification
speaking of objectification, the first and second vid mentioned (with link) by the last poster, "crzydesert", in post #33, in the fisting thread, have fine shots of an open hole.
https://forum.literotica.com/showthread.php?t=438619&page=2
O = Object = entryway= hole = 0 = nothing
speaking of objectification, the first and second vid mentioned (with link) by the last poster, "crzydesert", in post #33, in the fisting thread, have fine shots of an open hole.
https://forum.literotica.com/showthread.php?t=438619&page=2
O = Object = entryway= hole = 0 = nothing
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Ah, Pure...so few give me the excuse to pontificate like this...
Celebration or denigration stem from subjective personal motivations, but I'm glad you choose to see your own participation in the regime of negative space and the hallowed halls of hollowness.
On the other side, I find your response true, and yet still I would suggest it (the 'zero', negative space, etc. which you semiotically link above) does more than represent the absence which allows for the definition of substance and variance by contrast.
(vraiment. bonjour, mon ami!
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Celebration or denigration stem from subjective personal motivations, but I'm glad you choose to see your own participation in the regime of negative space and the hallowed halls of hollowness.
On the other side, I find your response true, and yet still I would suggest it (the 'zero', negative space, etc. which you semiotically link above) does more than represent the absence which allows for the definition of substance and variance by contrast.
(vraiment. bonjour, mon ami!
)
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rs--in her pontification--
perhaps you are familiar with Courbet's "The Origin of the World"
http://www.artchive.com/artchive/c/courbet/origin.jpg
so i accept your suggestion; indeed there is good reason to say "0" (zero) is origin of number.**
life's upsurge, like its degeneration, is transacted at the Orifice.
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**see, for example,
http://www.stanford.edu/class/history34q/readings/Rotman/Rotman_Metasubject.html
Rotman, Signifying Nothing, Ch 2., The Semiotics of Zero.
[According to Klein, the historian of mathematics,] 'Both [Plato and Aristotle, despite their differences] would have assented to the formula 'number [arithmos] as an assemblage of "units"'.
For Stevin [16th century Dutch mathematician] the source of [these philosophers'] error here is not so much the formula itself but the quasi-geometrical interpretation of a 'unit' contained in the classical view that underlies it, the notion that units were abstracted, individualised 'things' that were not (obviously) pluralities and not in fact numbers at all.
On the contrary, Stevin argued, the unit was a number like any other; it was not the unit that was the arche of number, but the nought. Zero was the proper origin of number,'The true and natural beginning' (Steven, 1958, p.499); and just as the point in geometry generates the line, so zero, which he wanted to call poinct de nombre gives rise to numbers.
To make zero the origin of number is to claim for all numbers, including the unit, the status of free, unreferenced signs. Not signs of something, not arithmoi, certainly not real collections, and not abstractions of 'units' con-sidered somehow as external and prior to numbers, but signs produced by and within arithmetical notation.
In the language of Saussure's distinction Stevin rejected numbers as signs conceived in terms of positive content, as names for 'things' supposedly prior to the process of sign)fication, in favour of signs understood structurally, as having meaning only in relation to other signs within the sign system of mathematics. In effect, [proposes Rotman] Stevin was insisting on a semiotic account of number, on an account which transferred zero's lack of referentiality, its lack of 'positive content', to all numbers. In so doing he overturned the belief in the anteriority of 'things' to signs that that classical formulation of arithmoi depends on.
perhaps you are familiar with Courbet's "The Origin of the World"
http://www.artchive.com/artchive/c/courbet/origin.jpg
so i accept your suggestion; indeed there is good reason to say "0" (zero) is origin of number.**
life's upsurge, like its degeneration, is transacted at the Orifice.
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**see, for example,
http://www.stanford.edu/class/history34q/readings/Rotman/Rotman_Metasubject.html
Rotman, Signifying Nothing, Ch 2., The Semiotics of Zero.
[According to Klein, the historian of mathematics,] 'Both [Plato and Aristotle, despite their differences] would have assented to the formula 'number [arithmos] as an assemblage of "units"'.
For Stevin [16th century Dutch mathematician] the source of [these philosophers'] error here is not so much the formula itself but the quasi-geometrical interpretation of a 'unit' contained in the classical view that underlies it, the notion that units were abstracted, individualised 'things' that were not (obviously) pluralities and not in fact numbers at all.
On the contrary, Stevin argued, the unit was a number like any other; it was not the unit that was the arche of number, but the nought. Zero was the proper origin of number,'The true and natural beginning' (Steven, 1958, p.499); and just as the point in geometry generates the line, so zero, which he wanted to call poinct de nombre gives rise to numbers.
To make zero the origin of number is to claim for all numbers, including the unit, the status of free, unreferenced signs. Not signs of something, not arithmoi, certainly not real collections, and not abstractions of 'units' con-sidered somehow as external and prior to numbers, but signs produced by and within arithmetical notation.
In the language of Saussure's distinction Stevin rejected numbers as signs conceived in terms of positive content, as names for 'things' supposedly prior to the process of sign)fication, in favour of signs understood structurally, as having meaning only in relation to other signs within the sign system of mathematics. In effect, [proposes Rotman] Stevin was insisting on a semiotic account of number, on an account which transferred zero's lack of referentiality, its lack of 'positive content', to all numbers. In so doing he overturned the belief in the anteriority of 'things' to signs that that classical formulation of arithmoi depends on.
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Netzach said:Hot enough to make a hijack, sweet!
TY
Damn, that IS netz, isn't it?
JAP city!--and I mean that in the best cat-eyed, sultry, entitled, bitchy sense.
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what are the possibilities for a gag with a hole in it? a hole that cannot be blocked by the subjected one. ideally the hole would permit liquids to pass through(in) but not sounds to pass out.
i have also seen those dentists' spreaders that keep the mouth open. but those would seem to allow ejection.
these are approximations to what i have in mind:
rubber open mouth gag with 1" in tube extending into mouth.
http://www.extremerestraints.com/rubber-open-mouth-gag_218.html
spider mouth gag
http://www.extremerestraints.com/spider-mouth-gag_1103.html
these are ways of objectifying the mouth.
i have also seen those dentists' spreaders that keep the mouth open. but those would seem to allow ejection.
these are approximations to what i have in mind:
rubber open mouth gag with 1" in tube extending into mouth.
http://www.extremerestraints.com/rubber-open-mouth-gag_218.html
spider mouth gag
http://www.extremerestraints.com/spider-mouth-gag_1103.html
these are ways of objectifying the mouth.
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