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[SilkVelvet]

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[rosco rathbone]

ALright, I am man enough to admit that I may have been wrong in the past. I came out strongly anti-toy; anti-tool-and-technique; but I think I might change my tune. After years of relying on main force to hold people down, I have seen the light of bondage.

I am building a custom steel spreader bar at work. 11/2" steel pipe with 7/8" structural nuts welded to it at various intervals to provide clipping points for restraints. Whole thing to have ground and hand-sanded raw-steel finish with lacquer. Hm, there is something to this whole fetishization of implements thing after all. Ok-I was off-base. I am converted.

 

[rosco rathbone]

I wonder if there are any fellows who feel as I do: I only REALLY want to fuck someone who is feeling a lot of negative emotions such as rage, aversion, shame and so on. Obviously rape would be the best bet; but I am too afraid of consequences both karmic, gnomic and concrete; and my good twin assures me that I could never live with myself if I really raped someone. (rosco is bad twin internet ID).

So, what I must do I suppose is to create situations where my partner feels as many negative emotions as possible.

Other people, I hear, like to fuck when they are full of love feelings. I once read a children's sex-ed book that said "Daddy puts his penis in Mommy's vagina because he loves her so much and wants to be as close to her as possible". I don't know if [sexual] life would have been any easier if I was wired this way. Why should it? Love is just as hard to find as hate; and just as likely to flip to its opposite pole.....

 

[rosco rathbone]

posted by ownedsubgal somewhere else

no, the hubby in "Enough" definitely was not a Dominant, he was controlling for sure, but he controlled not out of any sense of Dominance but out of pure, weak insecurity and fear. however that doesn't change the fact that the scenes where he beat j. lo's character up and down and sideways got me hot as all heck.

as to how anyone could be aroused by such a thing, well, i think all of us here on this board are "perverts" (according to webster) to one degree or another, some more than others. we all have our buttons...my own tend to revolve around male aggression/force/strength, and that power being used to either harm a female, or keep a female "in check", simply because she is female, and as such, weaker (physically, in most cases, i'm not trying to generalize), and socially developed throughout the ages to be controlled, used abused and stomped upon. when i see a fictionalized portrayal of a woman suffering physically at the hands of a man, or the hands of many men, yes i become aroused. i cannot help it...all my life, such images/thoughts have aroused me. it's why i can't stand mainstream porn...too often, the females are not only enjoying it, or pretending like they are, they're in control of things as well. they control how far a man's cock goes down their throat, by wrapping their hand around the base. they control how to touch, how to move, everything. even here on this board in the nonconsent stories section, the vast majority of the time the so called rapist is giving the woman what she "really" wants, and she ends up enjoying what's happening to her. that sort of story is not for me. i need to know that there is true discomfort at the least, true suffering at the most, in order to find a porn/story/etc. arousing. so it would fit that in mainstream movies, when they portray a female being abused by a man, my panties will get a bit moist. so sue me.

The story of how I get laid in a nutshell.

 

[Johnny Mayberry]

I wonder if there are any fellows who feel as I do: I only REALLY want to fuck someone who is feeling a lot of negative emotions such as rage, aversion, shame and so on. Obviously rape would be the best bet; but I am too afraid of consequences both karmic, gnomic and concrete; and my good twin assures me that I could never live with myself if I really raped someone. (rosco is bad twin internet ID).

So, what I must do I suppose is to create situations where my partner feels as many negative emotions as possible.

Other people, I hear, like to fuck when they are full of love feelings. I once read a children's sex-ed book that said "Daddy puts his penis in Mommy's vagina because he loves her so much and wants to be as close to her as possible". I don't know if [sexual] life would have been any easier if I was wired this way. Why should it? Love is just as hard to find as hate; and just as likely to flip to its opposite pole.....

Shame and pain work for me....you go further than I would, but I'm with you on general principle.

 

[rosco rathbone]

Shame and pain work for me....you go further than I would, but I'm with you on general principle.

Yes, I've seen your posts and it seems we are on roughly the same page.

Here's a question for you: in your internet love affairs, do you find it necessary to style yourself a dominate master? I am trying to build a coalition of gnomes.

 

[Johnny Mayberry]

Here's a question for you: in your internet love affairs, do you find it necessary to style yourself a dominate master? I am trying to build a coalition of gnomes.

I don't understand what you mean by that question. I do not 'style' myself as anything. I am who and what I am, IRL or online. This is me, and I am dominant.

 

[Pure]

In case you're interested, it's a Sadeian principle that the pleasure of the partner has a _subtractive_ influence on yours. Because fucking --its joy-- is essentially egoistic. (This is the opposite of literotica 'sensitive dom-ism'.)

J

 

[Johnny Mayberry]

In case you're interested, it's a Sadein principle that the pleasure of the partner has a _subtractive_ influence on yours. Becuase fucking --its joy-- is essentially egoistic. (This is the opposite of literotica 'sensitive dom-ism'.)

J

Interesting...and, as I have posted before, a submissive's pleasure exists when it pleases me, but not for it's own sake. It is well and good if she enjoys an activity, but I realy don't care if she does or not, so long as I am pleased. And, of course, sometimes it is her LACK of pleasure that truly stimulates me.

 

[rosco rathbone]

I don't understand what you mean by that question. I do not 'style' myself as anything. I am who and what I am, IRL or online. This is me, and I am dominant.

Well, I envy your integration.

 

[rosco rathbone]

Interesting...and, as I have posted before, a submissive's pleasure exists when it pleases me, but not for it's own sake. It is well and good if she enjoys an activity, but I realy don't care if she does or not, so long as I am pleased. And, of course, sometimes it is her LACK of pleasure that truly stimulates me.

I guess you've answered my question here. SO, you are upfront with your submissive subs about the fact that their pleasure is largely a matter of indifference to you. Perhaps you are one of a new generation of dominates that I have been awaiting.

 

[Johnny Mayberry]

Well, I envy your integration.

Are you having a hard time finding pseudo-rape victims IRL?

 

[rosco rathbone]

By the way JMB-your choice of Ed Norton as "av" is telling. I find his oeuvre-esp. Fightclub and American History X to be the cinematic harbinger of what I hope is a new chapter in the psychosexual lives of American men.

 

[Johnny Mayberry]

I guess you've answered my question here. SO, you are upfront with your submissive subs about the fact that their pleasure is largely a matter of indifference to you. Perhaps you are one of a new generation of dominates that I have been awaiting.

Well....here's a story for you:

Recently, my sub and I were spendinga rare weekend together. She had all her toys, she was primed for a big scene. Instead, we went outto a bar, got something to eat, and then I went to sleep. Why? Because that is what I wanted to do that night. Was she disappointed? Maybe, but that isn't much of my concern, now is it? Her greatest pleasure should come from my being satisfied.

 

[rosco rathbone]

Are you having a hard time finding pseudo-rape victims IRL?

No, I am having a hard time finding pseudo-rape victims IRL or online that I can deal with. It'd be the same way if I was straight; I am just a fucking headcase.

 

[Johnny Mayberry]

By the way JMB-your choice of Ed Norton as "av" is telling. I find his oeuvre-esp. Fightclub and American History X to be the cinematic harbinger of what I hope is a new chapter in the psychosexual lives of American men.

Right...disaffected young men looking to TAKE what they need, instead of passively waiting around for someone to offer it to them?

 

[Johnny Mayberry]

No, I am having a hard time finding pseudo-rape victims IRL or online that I can deal with. It'd be the same way if I was straight; I am just a fucking headcase.

I've been there...sometimes I want to punch people, and know that I can stop at some point...it is a rare partner that I can restrain myself with.

 

[rosco rathbone]

Well....here's a story for you:

Recently, my sub and I were spendinga rare weekend together. She had all her toys, she was primed for a big scene. Instead, we went outto a bar, got something to eat, and then I went to sleep. Why? Because that is what I wanted to do that night. Was she disappointed? Maybe, but that isn't much of my concern, now is it? Her greatest pleasure should come from my being satisfied.

This is good stuff. Interestingly enough, it is also just basic male supremacy. I think that a generation of young male dominates raised under feminism may have a need to declare the things that the baby boomer dominates would simply have taken for granted.

 

[Netzach]

Norton's character was punching himself in the nose to prove to himself he was real and could feel and do.

This isn't a new masculinity, it's the same ol' same ol', if you think about it.

Interestingly, I'm not interested in fucking boys going through "negative emotions"... way too problematic and a pain in my ass. It's more an issue of indifference, having a warm dildo.

Girls...could be kind of hot, maybe, but I'd rather make a girl admit how much, how fucking *much* she loves every little thing I'm doing, however depraved.

I do however, enjoy fucking while *my* emotions are not always at their functional best. Cathartic. Ought to be my personal prerogative as a User of flesh.

It must bring out something savagely sexual in the femme, subjugate her or get socked in the nose, whichever your fancy.

 

[Lancecastor]

As always, an interesting thread to catch up on.

The best D/s sex does tend to happen, in my experience, when the dominant's fearsomeness unlocks a savagery in the sub to really be fucked beyond anything considered mainstream...the details as to what's involved, I suggest, are academically irrelevant so long as the beasts to give and take mesh.

 

[Pure]

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[rosco rathbone]

I actually feel that your Kansas slavemaster post is more germane to the mood of this thread.

 

[rosco rathbone]

As I was reclining in my bath; I distinctly from the corner of my eye saw a shoe in hall move a foot to the right; with no foot in it. This is apropos to this thread because I can't get rid of a fear that geists are watching/following me due to sexual misdeeds and thoughtcrimes.

 

[Netzach]

Maybe they just are voyeuristic and wanna play along.

 

[evesdream]

They've probably got the best seats in the house.