To Heal Our Nation

[Meekly_Anna]

Your parents couldn't read?

Right then, hen, let's get tae the bottom o' this American palaver aboot daein' it yersel'. There's this notion they've got intae their heids that if ye want somethin' done right, ye've got tae be the wan tae dae it. It's no' jist for puttin' up shelves, mind ye, it's for raisin' bairns an' aw.
Look at homeschoolin'. Ye've got a lassie ower there, she's thinkin' she can be a better teacher than a body who's spent years at university learnin' the trade. So, she gets aw the books, buys a globe, an' says, "I'll be teachin' ma bairn everything masel', so they get the best education."
Meanwhile, anither wumman's wee yin goes tae the public school. They've got aw these teachers who are experts in their subjects. They've got classmates fae aw walks o' life. They're no' jist learnin' their sums and their letters; they're learnin' how tae fall oot, how tae mak' pals, and how tae get on wi' folk who are no' like themsel's.
At the end o' the day, who's comin' oot on top? Is it the folk who think they've got tae dae everythin' by themsel's, or the folk who trust their bairns tae navigate the world instead o' keepin' them safe in their ain hoose? I'd say it's the latter, wumman. There's mair tae life than jist your ain faimily.

 

[Hel_Books]

Hel_Books said:
Doesn't the USA have some elections coming up this November too? Also, they've already had some elections, like the special elections in Florida for Congressional seats that showed sharply lower margins in supposedly safe Republican seats.

there is no way the left can win

Only a few seats to flip the House of Representatives. In the Senate, maybe it will take longer, but even people like Susan Collins in Maine are looking weaker all the time.

 

[SkyBubble]

All these "statements" are simply "projection" or "whataboutism." For years, decades even, the right wing political adversaries accuse their opponents of the very same actions or behaviours they are themselves engaged in.

Complete falsehood and projection.

 

[Lazaran]

Complete falsehood and projection.

I’ll save myself some time & trouble…

A “Nuh-uuuuuh response???



Is that you BoBo???



SkyBoBo???





SkyBoBo



We. Told. Them. So.

 

[Bray123]

Your parents couldn't read?

They had jobs to go to. Plus, preferred to have people know what they were doing.

 

[Meekly_Anna]

Complete falsehood and projection.

That's exactly what I've said. Thank you for agreeing with me and assisting my point of view.
I thought you were a lost cause, but it makes me glad to see that there's hope, even for you, mate.

 

[Bray123]

https://imgur.com/phijaE8

 

[ll74]

Complete falsehood and projection.

So you were fine with cancel culture being weaponized against the right and are also ok with it being used against the left?

Neat

 

[SkyBubble]

So you were fine with cancel culture being weaponized against the right and are also ok with it being used against the left?

Neat

Very different things. "Cancel culture" punishes people for expressing legitimate opinions that the left disagrees with. This is people getting fire for celebrating a murder. I guess celebrating murder is all right with you if the victim is a conservative.

 

[ll74]

Very different things.

Nope

"Cancel culture" punishes people for expressing legitimate opinions that the left disagrees with. This is people getting fire for celebrating a murder. I guess celebrating murder is all right with you if the victim is a conservative.

Nope. People are being cancelled because they are saying things you disagree with.

 

[DynamicFigure]

We need to end the division. We’re all gonna be dead before you know it, and that in itself should make us love each other more.

With that said, let’s all get down to fucking and sucking.

 

[Meekly_Anna]

Very different things. "Cancel culture" punishes people for expressing legitimate opinions that the left disagrees with. This is people getting fire for celebrating a murder. I guess celebrating murder is all right with you if the victim is a conservative.

Soooo...
Exactly what the MAGA Freakshow does?

 

[SkyBubble]

People are being cancelled because they are saying things you disagree with.

No, they're losing jobs because they are celebrating murder. Apparently, that's OK with you.

Let's put the shoe on the other foot: You have a company. A prominent left winger gets murdered. An employee comes in and is celebrating, openly, maybe even online. Are you keeping that employee or firing that person? I'd fire him/her.

 

[ll74]

No, they're losing jobs because they are celebrating murder. Apparently, that's OK with you.

Nope.
Many are just criticizing him. A few are being idiots.

Let's put the shoe on the other foot: You have a company. A prominent left winger gets murdered. An employee comes in and is celebrating, openly, maybe even online. Are you keeping that employee or firing that person? I'd fire him/her.

Either you support cancel culture or you don't.

You do.

How many have you reported so far?

 

[SkyBubble]

Many are just criticizing him. A few are being idiots.

That's wrong. People saying he deserved to be murdered or celebrating or in any way justifying it are being fired by private employers, which they have every right to do. When you'r an employee and you say thigns like that openly, you make the employer look bad.

That is a different thing from expressing an opinion someone disagrees with . Justifying murder (whcih you seem to support) is not a legitimate opinion.

Either you support cancel culture or you don't.

As I suspected, you didn't answer my question. Of course not. You want to conflate different things so as to justify support for murdering the people you hate. Thank you for revealing yourself.

You are a supporter of cancel culture. I am not.

 

[ll74]

That's wrong. People saying he deserved to be murdered or celebrating or in any way justifying it are being fired by private employers, which they have every right to do. When you'r an employee and you say thigns like that openly, you make the employer look bad.

I dont agree with his assassination by any means, but people criticizing him don't deserve to be fired.

That is a different thing from expressing an opinion someone disagrees with . Justifying murder (whcih you seem to support) is not a legitimate opinion.

Lol...to you....yes.

You see things as justifying murder that actually aren't justifying it....so it's no wonder you agree with the cancelling.

As I suspected, you didn't answer my question. Of course not. You want to conflate different things so as to justify support for murdering the people you hate. Thank you for revealing yourself

I don't justify support for murder. I've been very clear about that.

.You are a supporter of cancel culture. I am not.

Lol....of course....you rationalize it so it's ok...lol

 

[SkyBubble]

I dont agree with his assassination by any means, but people criticizing him don't deserve to be fired.

I'm glad to hear you say you don't agree with assassination. That was not clear previously. But nobody is getting fired for merely criticizing Charlie. I will ask you again: Would you want to work with someone who celebrated teh assassination of a liberal icon or, if you could, would you fire that person?

You see things as justifying murder that actually aren't justifying it

Wrong. I see people openly celebrating. I'm sorry you choose to bury your head in the sand and ignore that for convenience.

I don't justify support for murder. I've been very clear about that.

No, you have not. And you still are evading the question.

 

[ll74]

I'm glad to hear you say you don't agree with assassination

I reject all political violence without qualification.

. That was not clear previously.

Yes it was.
I created an entire thread on the topic.

But nobody is getting fired for merely criticizing Charlie.

Yes, there are people getting fired for criticizing Kirk. Some have been fired for merely quoting him and providing commenta about the quotes

I will ask you again: Would you want to work with someone who celebrated teh assassination of a liberal icon or, if you could, would you fire that person?

Irrelevant. I don't care about my coworkers views on politics.

Wrong. I see people openly celebrating. I'm sorry you choose to bury your head in the sand and ignore that for convenience.

Do you know how many are foreign actors or do you just assume they are all Americans?

No, you have not. And you still are evading the question.

I have answered.

 

[ll74]

I'm glad to hear you say you don't agree with assassination. That was not clear previously. But nobody is getting fired for merely criticizing Charlie. I will ask you again: Would you want to work with someone who celebrated teh assassination of a liberal icon or, if you could, would you fire that person?

Wrong. I see people openly celebrating. I'm sorry you choose to bury your head in the sand and ignore that for convenience.

No, you have not. And you still are evading the question.

You haven't answered my question - how many people have you reported?

 

[SkyBubble]

Yes it was.

It was not.

Yes, there are people getting fired for criticizing Kirk. Some have been fired for merely quoting him and providing commenta about the quotes

You mean misquoting him, taking him out of context, saying he said things he didn't say. You're fine with that. Got it.

Irrelevant. I don't care about my coworkers views on politics.

I don't either; I do care whether they support murder. Because if they're fine with murdering someone for that person's opinions, then they're fine with murdering you and me.

Do you know how many are foreign actors or do you just assume they are all Americans?

Yes, I've seen hundreds of posts from Americans celebrating this. Stop making excuses for them.

I have answered.

You still haven't.

 

[ll74]

It was not.

Yep

You mean misquoting him, taking him out of context, saying he said things he didn't say. You're fine with that. Got it.

Mis quoting him or quoting him out of context is a fireable offense?

Lol

I don't either; I do care whether they support murder.

Neat

Because if they're fine with murdering someone for that person's opinions, then they're fine with murdering you and me.

If I believe someone is a danger then I will report them to HR or police as needed.

Quoting Kirk in or out of context is not that.

Yes, I've seen hundreds of posts from Americans celebrating this. Stop making excuses for them.

I'm not making excuses for anyone.

I'm telling you directly that many social media posts about the event are absolutely foreign actors and not real posts.

You still haven't.

I did. I told you at the beginning of the post you just responded to.

 

[SkyBubble]

Mis quoting him or quoting him out of context is a fireable offense?

Well, in at leaat one such case, it was a reporter using a falsified quote.

I'm not making excuses for anyone.

You absolutely are.

 

[ll74]

Well, in at leaat one such case, it was a reporter using a falsified quote.

Ok.

You absolutely are.

Nope. I personally don't care what people say about him or his death.

I care that people aren't outright rejecting political violence without qualifications loudly and often.

 

[SkyBubble]

Whatever. Keep covering.

 

[ll74]

Whatever. Keep covering.

Still not covering or defending.

Keep on reporting all the people!

Just like JD wants you to