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neonlyte

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the revolution.

Thirty-one years ago Portugal threw off the yolk of dictatorship and took its first steps toward democracy. No one died, in fact the revolution was celebrated by soldiers wearing carnations in the muzzles of their firearms.

Thirty-one years ago the land was plowed by oxen, few families had cars, anyone with an once of brain fled the country to work in Europe or America. Fish were caught by net cast off the beach, and hauled ashore by teams of oxen or columns of men. Driving was hazardous, roads potholed, narrow, built of granite sets fit to shake you teeth. And the pilgrims walked the highways to Fatima or Lamego, Braga or Santiago in Spain, faith everything where little other exists to sustain.

Different now, we're not allowed to fish (EU rules). The vast plains of the Alentejo stand largely barren, too little investment in irrigation, there are cars and highways everywhere, and the roads are too dangerous for pilgrims. Yet we receive the highest subsidies per head of population in Europe.

Where has the money gone? On the fireworks celebrating tonights anniversary? There had better be a bloody band marching in the morning or I really will begin the think we've lost direction.

Just ranting.
 
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...less sherry is being bought every year.
No-one else likes Portugese wines... :D
 
It does taste good in Portugal.
I find the flavours strange over here.

As one who was in the business for 25 years, I must admit it never really caught the public's imagination.

Apart from the Cliff Richard fanclub.

Kind of like Scotland and football.
 
Is that where they went Commie for a while, then cooled off, came back to their senses, and became a free country? :confused:
 
SEVERUSMAX said:
Is that where they went Commie for a while, then cooled off, came back to their senses, and became a free country? :confused:

Yes, post-revolution. They elected the first government with an overall electoral mandate just this year, before governments oscillated right and left like a pendulum, with both sides able to cobble together a temporary coalition to defeat legislation. That said, all of the municipalites around me are communist or left-wing socialist and are suprising prehaps, some of the most progressive in the country. I don't allow this to affect my political and ideological position one jot.
 
I last visited Portugal in 1956.

I understand it has changed slightly since then.

My wife visited Lisbon in 1974.

I still drink Port. Now I have a son-in-law who likes Port for birthday and Christmas presents (as well as other presents).

My father used to buy Port in large quantities for his employers.

My brother's father in law did too.

The free samples both got were appreciated...

Og
 
neonlyte said:
the revolution.

Thirty-one years ago Portugal threw off the yolk of dictatorship and took its first steps toward democracy. No one died, in fact the revolution was celebrated by soldiers wearing carnations in the muzzles of their firearms.

Thirty-one years ago the land was plowed by oxen, few families had cars, anyone with an once of brain fled the country to work in Europe or America. Fish were caught by net cast off the beach, and hauled ashore by teams of oxen or columns of men. Driving was hazardous, roads potholed, narrow, built of granite sets fit to shake you teeth. And the pilgrims walked the highways to Fatima or Lamego, Braga or Santiago in Spain, faith everything where little other exists to sustain.

Different now, we're not allowed to fish (EU rules). The vast plains of the Alentejo stand largely barren, too little investment in irrigation, there are cars and highways everywhere, and the roads are too dangerous for pilgrims. Yet we receive the highest subsidies per head of population in Europe.

Where has the money gone? On the fireworks celebrating tonights anniversary? There had better be a bloody band marching in the morning or I really will begin the think we've lost direction.

Just ranting.
I'll celebrate the memory by listening to Seu Jorge, on the Life Aquatic Studio Sessions CD :heart:
 
oggbashan said:
I last visited Portugal in 1956.

I understand it has changed slightly since then.

My wife visited Lisbon in 1974.

I still drink Port. Now I have a son-in-law who likes Port for birthday and Christmas presents (as well as other presents).

My father used to buy Port in large quantities for his employers.

My brother's father in law did too.

The free samples both got were appreciated...

Og

Opened a '63 Dow for Christmas, absolute nectar. Still a little left awaiting my return to UK, a late Easter treat, me thinks.
 
Well... the fireworks were good. Set all the dogs barking for about 20km around. Be able to sleep now, once the dogs stop.
 
We had one walk through of a Marine Band some twenty minutes ago, that was good, now we have that ever popular expression of Portuguese culture - American rap :rolleyes:

Geezzz - i know it's a little country and it wants be be on the world stage, but come on, there's folk music, popular culture, Fado, even Rebelo or Melgás if you go back to the 'Golden Age', rap :confused:

Note to self: Is culture an urban myth?
 
One thing I'm celebrating.

Portugal is still England's longest standing ally, and probably the only country we haven't thought about fighting in the last two and a half centuries. (Perhaps Switzerland is on that list too...)

Three cheers for our ally Portugal, and a toast, drunk in Port of course.

Og
 
oggbashan said:
probably the only country we haven't thought about fighting in the last two and a half centuries.

Actually, that's not true. At the end of the 19th century, as several European nations became interested in African territories, Portugal claimed soverenty over the territories between Angola and Mozambique, where now we can find Zambia, Zimbabwe and Malawi, based on historical right. The UK agreed at first, but then changed their minds and the diplomatic conflict that ensued culminated with the British ultimatum of 1890, which demanded the complete withdrawl from those territories.

That was the beginning of the end for Portuguese monarchy, since the people were that pleased with the king having had to bend over. In 1910, the first republic began. Our national anthem's refrain, adopted with the republic, "Contra os canhões, marchar, marchar!" (Against the cannons, march, march!), was at first "Against the Britons, march, march".
 
Lauren Hynde said:
... Our national anthem's refrain, adopted with the republic, "Contra os canhões, marchar, marchar!" (Against the cannons, march, march!), was at first "Against the Britons, march, march".

But Portugal was still our ally, even then...

Funny things, allies.

One verse (6) of our National Anthem still says rude things about the Scots.

Og

PS: Words of UK's National Anthem:

1. God save our gracious Queen,
Long live our noble Queen,
God save the Queen!
Send her victorious,
Happy and glorious,
Long to reign over us;
God save the Queen!

2. O Lord our God arise,
Scatter her enemies
And make them fall;
Confound their politics,
Frustrate their knavish tricks,
On Thee our hopes we fix,
God save us all!

3. Thy choicest gifts in store
On her be pleased to pour;
Long may she reign;
May she defend our laws,
And ever give us cause
To sing with heart and voice,
God save the Queen!

4. Not in this land alone,
But be God's mercies known,
From shore to shore!
Lord make the nations see,
That men should brothers be,
And form one family,
The wide world over.

5. From every latent foe,
From the assassins blow,
God save the Queen!
O'er her thine arm extend,
For Britain's sake defend,
Our mother, prince, and friend,
God save the Queen!

6. Lord grant that Marshal Wade
May by thy mighty aid
Victory bring.
May he sedition hush,
And like a torrent rush,
Rebellious Scots to crush.
God save the King!
 
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