This will make you ill...Vets not to receive their promised health care

Bob_Bytchin

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VETS NOT ELIGIBLE FOR LIFETIME CARE

By CURT ANDERSON, Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON (AP) - A federal appeals court reluctantly agreed with the government that military recruiters had no legal authority to promise World War II and Korean War veterans that they would get free lifetime health care if they stayed in the service 20 years.



Although the government conceded military recruiters made the promises, the Defense Department convinced the court there was no valid contract because the assurances were not backed up by law.


Tuesday's 9-4 decision to deny the veterans' claims was made by the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Federal Circuit. The veterans have been on both the winning and losing sides of the case. A federal judge in Jacksonville, Fla., ruled against them in 1998. Then this past February, a three-judge panel of the appeals court ruled in their favor.


The veterans will seek a Supreme Court hearing, said their lawyer, George "Bud" Day, a retired Air Force colonel who was a prisoner of war in Vietnam with Sen. John McCain (news, bio, voting record), R-Ariz.


"We're not down," Day said by telephone from his Florida office. "We have to fight."


The veterans received free benefits until 1995, when the Pentagon (news - web sites) ended those benefits for veterans over 65 because they were eligible for Medicare. Many of them had to purchase supplemental policies, including Medicare Part B, to fill coverage gaps.


Even the judges in the majority acknowledged they were uncomfortable with the ruling, writing that they "can do no more than hope Congress will make good on the promises made in good faith" to soldiers entering the service between 1941 and 1956.


"We cannot readily imagine more sympathetic plaintiffs than the retired officers of the World War II and Korean War era involved in this case," Circuit Judge Paul R. Michel wrote for the majority.


The four dissenting judges expressed disdain for the government's actions.


"They were told, in effect, if you disrupt your family, if you work for low pay, if you endanger your life and limb, we will in turn guarantee lifetime health benefits," wrote Chief Circuit Judge Haldane Robert Mayer. "There is no doubt that the government made an unambiguous offer."


The two lead plaintiffs are Air Force and Navy veteran William Schism, who served from 1943 to 1979; and Robert Reinlie, who served in the Army and Air Force between 1942 and 1967. Both now live in Fort Walton Beach, Fla., along with their lawyer, Day.

Reinlie, who said he flew 30 missions as a B-17 navigator over Europe during World War II, said he spent about $15,000 of his own money for medical care during the years after coverage was withdrawn. Now 81, Reinlie said he was "disappointed as all get out" but also vowed the case would continue.

"We knew that no matter what the appeals court did, we were going to the Supreme Court," Reinlie said.

Congress recently enacted legislation providing free health care for all of these older veterans beginning in 2002.

What is at stake in this case is the costs, estimated by Justice Department (news - web sites) officials as billions of dollars, paid by older veterans between 1995 and 2001 when the Pentagon issued regulations providing free coverage by civilian doctors only for veterans under age 65.

The majority opinion notes that the older veterans still could get free medical treatment at military bases when space was available. But hospital space was scarce due to military downsizing, leading many veterans over 65 to purchase Medicare Part B or costly private insurance coverage to ensure access to care.

The law at most allowed these veterans space-available treatment, not free health insurance for life, the majority opinion says. The Pentagon, the decision concludes, "lacked the authority ... to promise free and full medical care" because these benefits cannot be subject to a contract, implied or otherwise.
 
Why does that not suprise me? :rolleyes:

Cock suckers! gurrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
 
That is so WRONG!

I'm picturing the avalanche of mail to congress if this ever ends up with them.
 
Hey, it's the capitalist way!

Use 'em up, then throw them away-- that's the essence of the capitalist system. What are you, un-American or something? Every successful capitalist thoroughly understands the difference between an asset and a liability. Young, strong, tough men who can be brainwashed into fighting and possibly dying for their capitalist masters are a definite asset. Used up, often injured, almost always mentally traumatized veterans are a liability. The logic of capitalism demands they be cast onto the scrapheap. In a capitalistic system, veterans will always get screwed by the government they served.
:p
 
Problem Child said:
I hope McCain will get involved with this. It's disgraceful.

Ollie North has been pounding a similar issue for servicemen getting injured in combat.
 
BLODDYTAMPON, shut up!

As to the article, I have no doubt that they will win at the supreme court, but I can't believe they have to fight. Didn't those men fight enough FOR this country?
 
sunstruck said:
BLODDYTAMPON, shut up!

As to the article, I have no doubt that they will win at the supreme court, but I can't believe they have to fight. Didn't those men fight enough FOR this country?

A bigger shame is that it's taken so long for them to get a WWII Memorial. More men fought and died in WWII than Vietnam, yet the Vietnam Vets got a memorial sooner.

Something that really amazes me is the price tag on the WWII memorial...and the fact that Steven Spielburg and Tom Hanks were begging for money to get the project done. That's just a drop in the bank for those two.

Where is the WWI Memorial?
 
Typical

Real clever retorts, imbeciles.
:p

sunstruck, go suck off Dicks while Bastard Child fucks him in the ass.
 
Re: Typical

REDWAVE said:
Real clever retorts, imbeciles.
:p

sunstruck, go suck off Dicks while Bastard Child fucks him in the ass.

Clever AND classy. Yup, you've got it all Maxipad.
 
From a point of law the court is correct. It is time however, for the Federal government to step up to the plate and remedy the problem. Those recruiters didn't just pull those promises out of a hat. That promise came down from the Sec. Of Defense. What the court DID recognize was that those veterens have basically been defrauded.

The Congress should pass legislation fixing the issue for good.
 
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