things women wish men would understand

[butters]

now i am fully aware of gender spectrums, and if anyone wants to start their own thread from another perspective go for it, but this is really for women (and i include all who are women regardless of birth genitalia) as a gentle heads up for guys


We know you appreciate the beautiful woman before you, but unless she's just there for the sex with you, please don't go messing up her clothes, hair, makeup and jewellery... time was invested to try and look nice, and it wasn't just for you it's really really annoying

 

[butters]

the kind of women worth sharing your life with aren't the ones interested in your wallet

 

[butters]

if you've got young children, waking her up early because you've got a hardon you'd like to share and suggesting she can 'sleep in' after is not likely to go down well

 

[butters]

we are not your mothers, nor need babying like kids, but expect to be treated as adults...and that means listening to us even if you disagree. Disagreeing's fine...because we're adults.

 

[BrightShinyGirl]

You interrupt and talk over us more often than you realize.
Let us have a turn to talk just like you let the other guys do.

 

[butters]

just because we're equal doesn't mean we want to be treated as a man. women ARE equal AND women. they're not mutually exclusive.

 

[butters]

behaving in a manner that makes us feel we're in a mother/son relationship is not conducive to sexy times...unless we're into that (most aren't)

 

[butters]

we don't need your permission to say/do/believe things even though we understand it's important to be in agreement in certain situations such as in areas of responsibility.

 

[BrightShinyGirl]

Although we adore men individually …

 

[butters]

As I guy I'll contribute for them - their subtlety and reading between the lines. Be straight up with me. Or grab my hand. I need things to be more obvious.

"anyone wants to start their own thread from another perspective go for it, but this is really for women (and i include all who are women regardless of birth genitalia) as a gentle heads up for guys"

ahem

 

[butters]

As I guy I'll contribute for them - their subtlety and reading between the lines. Be straight up with me. Or grab my hand. I need things to be more obvious.

looks like it

 

[juttjaw]

I was raised by all women, my best friends have always been women (few men as the exception), I've always been able to talk with women, enjoy women, hang out with women, marry women, all my children are women, love women and despise some women.
After all that training, from an infant to adulthood, I still seem to fuck up, from time to time and let my mouth get ahead of my brain.

 

[BrightShinyGirl]

As I guy I'll contribute for them - their subtlety and reading between the lines. Be straight up with me. Or grab my hand. I need things to be more obvious.

Men don't handle rejection well. A lot of the time when we're ambiguous, it's because we don't want to deal with the shit we know will ensue if we're blunt.

 

[butters]

I was raised by all women, my best friends have always been women (few men as the exception), I've always been able to talk with women, enjoy women, hang out with women, marry women, all my children are women, love women and despise some women.
After all that training, from an infant to adulthood, I still seem to fuck up, from time to time and let my mouth get ahead of my brain.

*sigh*

lol, juttjaw, i know you've the best intentions but maybe my no.1 post should have addressed men LISTENING (or reading, in this instance), lol

"anyone wants to start their own thread from another perspective go for it, but this is really for women (and i include all who are women regardless of birth genitalia) as a gentle heads up for guys"

guys, anyone not identifying as women, you really don't need to chat here unless it's to say 'aha! thankyou for the information'

i really shouldn't have bothered posting that last since the trollies will jump in

 

[butters]

women roll their eyes a lot for reasons


and i may as well give up on the expectation that only women will reply in here because this is lit, after all (and men will be men)

 

[Brains_N_Boobs]

Her cycle, period and menopause. (Physically and mentally.)

 

[BrightShinyGirl]

Here's something I wrote a while ago after trying to explain shit like this to my (mostly understanding) husband.

Imagine living in a world where bears are as intelligent as humans. They walk around on two legs, and they wear clothes, and they can talk, and they’re NICE. They’re not like wild animals at all–they’re just regular people who happen have been born in bear bodies. And they’re everywhere. You work with bears, and you hang out with bears, and you’ve even dated a few bears. Living with friendly, intelligent bears is just a normal part of life.

Only … they’ve got those teeth, and they got those claws, and they weigh like 2000 pounds. On some level you know that if one of them ever decided to stop being nice–if it turned mean or violent–then it could really hurt you and you’d have a hard time fighting back. So your safety depends on the bears around you never ever exploiting how much stronger they are than you. The fact that most bears are nice and gentle and friendly doesn’t matter. There’s still a built-in asymmetry to the power arrangement. You have to trust them in a way that they don’t have to trust you. And whenever you're around a bear you're always a little on your guard just in case.

If you’re a guy and you want to know what it’s like to be a women, imagine living in a world like that.

 

[thør]

But, life can be easy.

 

[butters]

But, life can be easy.

men being men

or a bear

and to think the magats cling to this recipe with all the tenacity of a drowning cat clinging to a drowning man

 

[Noor]

the old saying “ it’s not the meat, it’s the motion is true”
A man’s penis length, girth, skin texture, curve, shape whatever is an accident of birth with the exception of circumcision, and isn’t really all that interesting to most women. Men seem to admire their cocks a lot more than women do. The idea that men sending random cock pictures to women thinking that would spark some sort of interest is kind of nuts, it might work with men though.

 

[butters]

the old saying “ it’s not the meat, it’s the motion is true”
A man’s penis length, girth, skin texture, curve, shape whatever is an accident of birth with the exception of circumcision, and isn’t really all that interesting to most women. Men seem to admire their cocks a lot more than women do. The idea that men sending random cock pictures to women thinking that would spark some sort of interest is kind of nuts, it might work with men though.

this.. so much this, lol

they don't seem to understand if we're enamoured of the person, then their cock is included in that. A cock is not a separate entity. Sure there can be 'pretty' cocks but what's a cock not attached to a warm and breathing person who cares for you? nada.

i sometimes wonder if the trauma a child suffers in circumcision at a very tender age makes them so obsessed by/protective of/insecure about their cocks?

 

[KatieDoes]

1. We are actually entire people, not just dick receptacles

2. OMG, stop talking over us. ForFuckSake.

3. Everything isn’t about you. Sometimes women just function and do shit and it has nothing to do with you at all.

4. We can absolutely adore good, real, strong, competent, kind, amazing men.. while simultaneously being repulsed by misogynistic trash fire men. It doesn’t make us ‘man haters’

5. No, really. Stop fucking talking over us. Shut up and listen. Or don’t…. We’re all becoming bi/bi-curious out here for a reason. Your wife has no sex drive? Send me her contact info

 

[butters]

Just be blunt and get it over with. A clean break is a good thing.

is this a male or female or all-ale perspective? ^^ works for me.

 

[butters]

no, it's not 'nagging'... the reason we keep repeating things is because you're not listening

lol

 

[HarryHill]

You interrupt and talk over us more often than you realize.
Let us have a turn to talk just like you let the other guys do.

Thats what I keep telling her.