They're knowingly lying to you about actual COVID-19 numbers/deaths

[bigsly]

Governor Ned Lamont @GovNedLamont Apr 1

It is with heartbreaking sadness today that we can confirm the first pediatric fatality in Connecticut linked to #COVID19. A 6-week-old newborn from the Hartford area was brought unresponsive to a hospital late last week and could not be revived. (1/3)

Testing confirmed last night that the newborn was COVID-19 positive. This is absolutely heartbreaking. We believe this is one of the youngest lives lost anywhere due to complications relating to COVID-19. (2/3)

This is a virus that attacks our most fragile without mercy. This also stresses the importance of staying home and limiting exposure to other people. Your life and the lives of others could literally depend on it. Our prayers are with the family at this difficult time. (3/3)

https://twitter.com/GovNedLamont/status/1245429678875295744?s=20

Unfortunately for Lamont's credibility, the baby was "unresponsive" when s/he was brought to the hospital because of suffocation by a caregiver.

And it's, of course, not only Connecticut's Lamont knowingly lying to spread the hysteria...

The Georgia Department of Health is currently walking back its sensationalist reporting Thursday of an 11-year old Atlanta kid who they proclaimed to be the youngest Georgian to die from the highly contagious disease - they say now there's actually no evidence at all to support their lie.

Last Tuesday, the Los Angeles County Department of Public Health sensationalistically proclaimed that a 17-year old LA kid died from novel coronavirus, which then hyperbolically morphed into him being one of the youngest victims of COVID-19 in the US. On Thursday, the director of LACDPH had to drop the kid from the list of deaths from COVID-19 in LA County, because - wait for it - there was actually no evidence to support their lying claim.

Meanwhile, the UK's criteria for proclaiming all under its limeyland jurisdiction who've are infected with and who've died from COVID-19 simply have symptoms "associated" with COVID-19 - which naturally includes influenza, pneumonia and hosts of other ailments. Which should also make it not surprising at all that medical professionals are now reporting unusual drops in the number of infected/deaths normally attributed to seasonal pneumonia and influenza - duh.

There are even reports emerging now that Italy is saying that only 12% of all their recent, sensationalistically reported deaths can be directly linked to COVID-19.

In the US, what possible motive can there be for such repugnant, pathological lying? Well, like Confucius say, Follow the $$, grasshopper...

...the recently enacted CARE Act - the largest "stimulus" package in world history - pays pretty much every single cent of reported care related, associated, to COVID-19.

 

[Saint_Ann]

A baby died in IL that had 19, from a bowel obstruction.

 

[Bdm20]

Just sayin’

https://www.patheos.com/blogs/progr...vid-19-was-media-driven-hoax-dies-from-virus/

 

[Bdm20]

https://www.patheos.com/blogs/progr...vid-19-was-media-driven-hoax-dies-from-virus/

Hopefully her family sues Faux News.

 

[Bdm20]

The reality is that far more Covid-19 death as are NOT reported as most dead people are t being tested because we don’t have enough tests. The Twittiot blames his, and everything else, on Obama. “The shelves were empty!” Uh, that was over three years ago...

 

[Hugh_Essay]

I'm still alive.

 

[bigsly]

The reality is...

That's not actual reality, wannabe.

It's simply what you've chosen to believe as your "reality".

 

[LupusDei]

Which should also make it not surprising at all that medical professionals are now reporting unusual drops in the number of infected/deaths normally attributed to seasonal pneumonia and influenza - duh.

It's really not surprising, but for whole different reasons. Do you think that quarantine lockup somehow mysteriously work only on COVID-19 exclusively? Nope, it works as intended for most of all infectious diseases, they're all down along.

 

[Fuzzy1975]

It's really not surprising, but for whole different reasons. Do you think that quarantine lockup somehow mysteriously work only on COVID-19 exclusively? Nope, it works as intended for most of all infectious diseases, they're all down along.

Connecting the dots is not his strong suit....

 

[bigsly]

It's really not surprising, but for whole different reasons. Do you think that quarantine lockup somehow mysteriously work only on COVID-19 exclusively? Nope, it works as intended for most of all infectious diseases, they're all down along.

You're making the gigantic assumption that "quarantine lockup" unarguably works, makes any significant difference, versus no "quarantine lockup" (ala Sweden, eg). Good for you. Have a cookie.

Now, perhaps you'd care to directly address the documented examples of government knowingly lying about COVID-19 numbers/death this thread presents unassumptively?

And you're Latvian, no? Why not share the criteria your country employs to count its COVID-19 numbers/deaths?

 

[sygn]

There are even reports emerging now that Italy is saying that only 12% of all their recent, sensationalistically reported deaths can be directly linked to COVID-19.
.

Where did you read that?
I occasionally browse thelocal.it
and High Health Institute president Silvio Brusaferro said that the death toll may be higher than the official figures, because "they don't include people who died at home, in nursing homes and those who were infected by the virus but not tested."

In saying that, now they're talking about another shit-storm:

Coronavirus: Fears in Italy shift to growing number who can't afford to eat after shutdown
https://www.thelocal.it/20200401/as...fts-to-growing-numbers-who-cant-afford-to-eat

 

[Wrong Element]

I think it's understood by virtually everybody that the number of Covid-19 cases and even deaths are being undercounted (sometimes unintentionally and sometimes not), not overcounted. But I can tell this is going to be a key talking point going forward as the morgues continue to overflow.

And why are the nutbags so obsessed with Sweden? I never see the same Bat Signals as them.

 

[bigsly]

I think it's understood by virtually everybody that the number of Covid-19 cases and even deaths are being undercounted (sometimes unintentionally and sometimes not), not overcounted. But I can tell this is going to be a key talking point going forward as the morgues continue to overflow.

And why are the nutbags so obsessed with Sweden? I never see the same Bat Signals as them.

So, did the Governor of Connecticut knowingly lie about "this is one of the youngest lives lost anywhere due to complications relating to COVID-19"?

Or not?

Did Georgia knowingly lie about the 11-year old kid "who they proclaimed to be the youngest Georgian to die from the highly contagious disease"?

Or not?

How about LA County? Did they knowingly lie when they "proclaimed that a 17-year old LA kid died from novel coronavirus" and "then hyperbolically morphed" that "into him being one of the youngest victims of COVID-19 in the US."?

Or not?

In each one of those unarguable cases, government proclaimed fake news and knowingly did so because there wasn't and isn't any evidence at all to even assume what they intentionally proclaimed.

Does the CARE Act pay virtually every cent of practically every medical case reportedly related/associated to COVID-19?

Or not?

Yeah, you're as apt at disingenuously deflecting as you are at expertly slurping up creampie, cuck.

 

[Conager]

I think it's understood by virtually everybody that the number of Covid-19 cases and even deaths are being undercounted (sometimes unintentionally and sometimes not), not overcounted. But I can tell this is going to be a key talking point going forward as the morgues continue to overflow.

And why are the nutbags so obsessed with Sweden? I never see the same Bat Signals as them.

Histrionic, much?

AP News. Burying the lede:

"Brian Abernathy, Philadelphia’s Managing Director, said the city had secured refrigerated trucks to help with any overflow storage needed for bodies. The city had reported 26 deaths as of Friday.

“This isn’t because we expect a large influx of people succumbing to the illness, but rather it’s likely that there will be fewer funerals, which will cause backups in both our city morgues as well as the hospital morgues,” Abernathy said. "

 

[Conager]

Why is social distancing magically working better on the regular seasonal flu then it is on the corona virus.?

Follow up: if it works so well why haven't we been doing this for the seasonal flu for the last dozen years? We could have saved almost a million lives, theoretically.

 

[Morcheeba]

That's not actual reality, wannabe.

It's simply what you've chosen to believe as your "reality".

I see you, bigsly.

 

[Morcheeba]

I think it's understood by virtually everybody that the number of Covid-19 cases and even deaths are being undercounted (sometimes unintentionally and sometimes not), not overcounted. But I can tell this is going to be a key talking point going forward as the morgues continue to overflow.

And why are the nutbags so obsessed with Sweden? I never see the same Bat Signals as them.

Wow, always knew that Wrong Element was a liar dishing out falsehoods, virtually every breath that he takes he pushes lies...

"As the morgues continue to overflow."

Okay, this is sickening even by your standards.

Wow, you sickos better get ready to eat crow!

 

[oggbashan]

In many countries, Covid-19 deaths that do NOT occur in hospitals are not counted because the tests aren't available.

 

[teeAhee]

gee

when THE BUSYBODY says this

HE IS BANNED!

 

[Conager]

In many countries, Covid-19 deaths that do NOT occur in hospitals are not counted because the tests aren't available.

How could you possibly then know that it's a Covid 19 death? Whether the death occurs in a hospital or not, a doctor has to sign the dead certificate. He has to put something down.

If they were tested and it's covid19 then obviously they're going to count that if they were not tested then how do you or anyone else know it was Covid19 and not the regular flu?

It seems to me that authorities are leaning towards the side of hysteria rather than caution when in doubt. You're suggesting the reverse is true and I don't see any evidence of that.

In Italy all deaths involving cardiopulmonary function in aa hospital infected with covid19 were assumed to be Covid 19 deaths whether they were conformed or were not. There is an actual flu strain still going around and still killing people and I would suspect that more often than not those are attributed to Covid19. I can't know that, of course but neither can you know what you stated above.

 

[SpeareChucker]

Response to OP

We've seen this happen before with another famous virus,
another one that the name Fauci is associated with.
The political class and their lapdog, supportive media
need to have catastrophe and solution because it
validates their self-perceived role as protectors of the nation.
In this role, they feel superior based upon nothing more
than the fact that they hold the power to order our lives.
See their recklessness in destroying our economy for fear
of the boogeyman, and their comments full of shallow hubris
as they tell us, ignore the deficit, when this is over, we will
address and fix that. WTF? When the hells have they ever
redressed the deficits we already had?

Have they ever, ever formulated and exit strategy or does
political calculus now force them to drag this out at least
for another election cycle lest new deaths, real or imagined,
be used against the power of their incumbency or their
ability to market advertisements due to their crisis coverage?

 

[SpeareChucker]

In many countries, Covid-19 deaths that do NOT occur in hospitals are not counted because the tests aren't available.

A sword that cuts both way since, for purpose of garnering treasury largess,
many of the players are willing to entertain the conjecture that untested deaths
are, indeed, attributable to the SARS-CoV-2 virus...

[tone=sarcasm]

After-all, haven't we collared and leashed the flu?
Pretty rare for it to kill anyone with preexisting conditions, no?​

[/tone]​

 

[oggbashan]

How good you possibly then no that it's a Cove in 19 death? Weather a dead the curse in a hospital or not a doctor has to sign the dead certificate. He has to put something down.

If they were tested and it's covet 19 then obviously they're going to count that if they were not tested then how do you or anyone else know it was covered 19th and not the regular flu?

It seems to me that authorities are leaning towards the side of hysteria rather than caution when in doubt. You're suggesting the reverse is true and I don't see any evidence of that.

And Italy all Destin involved heart Orleans in a hospital infected with covert 19 were assume to be Cove in death where did they were or were not. They're is an actual flu strain still going around and still killing people and I would suspect them or often than not those are attributed to CCovid19. I can't know that, of course but neither can you know what you stated above.

The Italians have reclassified a number of deaths in care homes that should have been recorded as Covid-19 related - possibly as a contributory cause rather than the main cause which might have been an underlying health condition or just old age.

Postmortem tests can prove the presence of Covid-19 but that is too fucking late.

My point really is that the figures of Covid-19 deaths anywhere have to be taken with a dose of skepticism. Some might have been over-recorded; some might have been under-recorded. We don't really know. In many cases it is down to the individual professional judgement of an overworked physician.

 

[teeAhee]

STFU, Abdul Aziz Ibn Muhamud OGG

 

[oggbashan]

BB being an ashole again. Bye!