These, ladies and gentlemen, are the only jobs that we can keep from going overseas

[Le Jacquelope]

The crap of all crap jobs.

Note that no progress-oriented job is listed here. No jobs in research and development, math, etc.

Why should any American even bother with doing research and development for future technology when someone can outbid you for the same work overseas?

Capitalism is about to reduce America to a 3rd world country.


http://hotjobs.yahoo.com/career-articles-no_outsourcing_here_10_jobs_that_are_staying_put-587

No Outsourcing Here: Jobs That Are Staying Put

by Kelly McCarthy, EarnMyDegree.com

For U.S. businesses seeking to cut costs, outsourcing is an increasingly popular practice. Jobs initially sent offshore were mostly manufacturing jobs, but nowadays employers are taking advantage of all types of cheap labor overseas.

Invest Wisely

You didn't spend years getting an education only to lose your livelihood to foreign workers. The monthly wages they earn wouldn't pay your cable bill here in the U.S. That's why it's imperative that you carefully research your chosen degree area prior to investing loads of time and money.

It Doesn't Matter What Color Your Collar Is

Blue collar, white collar -- Nearly all industries can be affected by outsourcing. Any company looking to save money is likely to investigate what savings can be had by moving some (or all) of their labor needs to a foreign country.

Is Your Career Choice Vulnerable?

When outsourcing first began, most college students and recent grads weren't concerned with whether or not their chosen industry would remain based in the U.S. Today, many workers realize they have equally educated and skilled workers competing for the same jobs overseas. To become more competitive, many now choose a career path that is firmly planted on our home turf.

Jobs That Are Here to Stay

Here are nine jobs that are not likely to be shipped oceans away (source: U.S. Department of Labor):

Dental Assistant
It's tough to clean teeth from across the world. A career as a dental assistant usually begins with an associate's degree from an accredited college or university.

Pharmacy Technician
People take their health seriously -- that's why a certification as a pharmacy tech is not likely to be outsourced.

Fitness Professional
It's hard enough to be motivated in-person. Offshore encouragement won't cut it. A career in fitness can begin with a certificate program.

Teacher Aide
Teachers need live help to care for kids. An anonymous, off-site representative just won't cut it when it comes to educating our kids.

Auto Repair Technician
Most car troubles can't be repaired with simple, over-the-phone instructions. An auto tech studies anywhere from 6 months to 2 or more years, and will always have a steady stream of live customers.

Pet Groomer
Along the lines of a dog trainer, pet grooming just must be done in person. This is usually only a certificate program.

Plumber
This career depends fully on local workers -- plumbers definitely won't be phoning in from overseas to unclog your toilet.

Veterinary Assistant
A pet's health and happiness is of serious importance to most owners, and they won't be putting it in the hands of foreign workers. You can become a vet assistant by completing a certificate program.

Electrician
This highly technical and hands-on job simply can't be done any other way, except live and in-person.

 

[SlickTony]

Well, that makes sense. I've thought many times that if I had to do over again, I'd get into a trade, something like plumbing. After all, nobody sends their toilet to India. Hell, if I were a plumber, fixing that damn upstairs faucet would have been a nothing job like snaking out the dryer vent or changing out the air filter on the car and I wouldn't be looking at retiling the bathroom ceiling, probably another job that can't be done from a distance.

 

[Le Jacquelope]

Well, that makes sense. I've thought many times that if I had to do over again, I'd get into a trade, something like plumbing. After all, nobody sends their toilet to India. Hell, if I were a plumber, fixing that damn upstairs faucet would have been a nothing job like snaking out the dryer vent or changing out the air filter on the car and I wouldn't be looking at retiling the bathroom ceiling, probably another job that can't be done from a distance.

The whole problem is, this means America's technological base jobs are being horrendously undermined.

India will be spearheading future biotech research and artificial intelligence stuff, and we'll be a nation of grade school teaching assistants and plumbers.

At this rate, India and China will expand into space and we'll be landlocked.

I know not too many people are very far sighted in this world but I'll put this out there anyway: this is a huge national security problem.

There are worse consequences out there than locking down tech and science jobs and slapping monstrous tariffs on importing related goods and services. We need to force these jobs to be done in America and provide an impetus for our students to pursue math, the sciences, etc., or guess who won't be establishing a colony on Mars.

 

[SlickTony]

If you ask me, a large part of the problem was when we succumbed to the siren call of financialization.

 

[emap]

They kinda skipped a few of the most obvious. Namely military, I really don't think the US will ever outsource the armed services, police officer for the same reason.

Anything medical, teachers actually are starting to be sort of outsourced, there is an online school program. Now if you happen to ever watch or catch parts of Dirty Jobs, there are tons of well dirty jobs that simply can't be outsourced. Really the only things anybody really needs to worry about are manufacturing, design, and research. All can be done elsewhere generally for cheaper, though there are areas of each that won't ever go outside the US for safety reasons, and the national security thingy.

 

[xssve]

They kinda skipped a few of the most obvious. Namely military, I really don't think the US will ever outsource the armed services, police officer for the same reason.

You might be speaking too soon - the no bid Iraq contractors rely on private mercenaries, and they were patrolling New Orleans after Katrina - some were overheard complaining about the pay cut.

These guys come from all over, South Africa, ex Bosnian militia, you name it - last I heard, there were about 50,000 and growing.

 

[Kev H]

You might be speaking too soon - the no bid Iraq contractors rely on private mercenaries, and they were patrolling New Orleans after Katrina - some were overheard complaining about the pay cut.

These guys come from all over, South Africa, ex Bosnian militia, you name it - last I heard, there were about 50,000 and growing.

Actually, here's a very alarming trend that shows how the military is a growth industry. Think 20,000 active duty soldiers at home. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/11/30/AR2008113002217_pf.html

That hoses us older folk, but hey, it gives our kids something to do.

 

[R. Richard]

I used to live at the beach, actually several beaches. While I lived at the beach I observed and learned.
It's very difficult to run a normal business at the beach. The land is so expensive that the cost of an office eats up the profits of the business. However, there are busineses at the beach.
The businesses that employ the most people are bars and/or restaurants. Tourists come to the beach and the often eat and drink while they're there. They don't want to go somewhere else, in a town they don't know. Thus, there is employment for quite a few beach people. The jobs are waiters/waitresses, cocktail waitress, cooks and bartenders. The cocktail waitresses make the most money and take the most crap. Age is no barrier to a beach cocktail waitress, as long as she's over 18 and under 26.
People at the beach still need doctor and dentist services, so there are those offices at the beach. People at the beach still need food, so there are supermarkets, but not too many, since the land is so expensive. There are surf shops, but a lot of the work on things like surf boards is done inland. There are some shops, other than the tourist traps, but most of the beach shops are hidden on side streets where the rent is lower. There are also a lot of apartments.
The summary of beach jobs is those who serve the local people, including the tourists who are temporarily local, long established essential services, skilled people and landlords.
Those who want jobs in the coming USA economy would do well to develop specialized job skills. The idea that you go to school, learn personal development and then go to work for an employer who trains you aint gionna fly no more.
I used to work as a computer programmer. My job was to listen to the incompetents who wanted a computer program written, politely explain to said incompetents what they really wanted and why and then produce the desired software. Yes, they outsource a lot of computer programming, since the USA schools don't want to produce computer programmers, but the idea that some programmer in India can produce useful programs from the usual insane/incompetent spec is absurd. However, Indians are now coming to the USA, because the locals spent their time memorizing poetry, rather than learning something useful.
Learning useful job skills in school isn't a matter of life or death, it's much more important than that.

 

[SlickTony]

The prevalence of mercenary troops is something that should cause concern. I mean, who do they owe allegience to?

 

[Le Jacquelope]

You might be speaking too soon - the no bid Iraq contractors rely on private mercenaries, and they were patrolling New Orleans after Katrina - some were overheard complaining about the pay cut.

These guys come from all over, South Africa, ex Bosnian militia, you name it - last I heard, there were about 50,000 and growing.

LOL, emap said that? They're contracting out to mercs all over the place.

And yeah, what slicktony said is a big issue - who do these people owe their allegiance to? Wasn't mercenaries part of what caused the sacking of Rome, IIRC?

 

[Le Jacquelope]

Those who want jobs in the coming USA economy would do well to develop specialized job skills. The idea that you go to school, learn personal development and then go to work for an employer who trains you aint gionna fly no more.

The problem is, employers want top notch employees with the equivalent of 15 years of job experience - experience you can't possibly get in college. Most employers want skills you can't get without years of job experience, so you can't get the years of job experience to start.

As for specialization, that's another thing. Companies want one-man bands. You come into the game with top notch programming skills and you find yourself competing with the jackhole with 10 years of programming and also a strong biotech and financial background and a friggin MBA to boot. Yeah, you're gonna lose. Badly. Then HR is going to fall in love with him and the next job ad they put out will require up front 10 years of paid programmer work plus biotech experience and an MBA. Then their competitors will follow suit. Oops. Take your friggin programming degree and shove it... get that MBA and get some work experience in biotech. Oops! Biotech has just gone to India! WTF OMFG! You're now a 30 year old perpetual student trying to play the degree arms race, now THAT will look good on your resume!

And another thing - employers have to train people. They have to get them up to speed on what the company itself is doing, quite often they have to train the employee on their customized version of whatever they learned (enhanced Java, etc.). If you as an employer aren't using some custom version of programming tools, good chances are that you're not anywhere near the bleeding edge of innovation. Some company in India is likely to run you down with their equally boilerplate but far cheaper-run shop.

Oh and I forgot, I personally had to call my HR out on the carpet and tell them to bitch slap their "we need programmers with banking experience and 5 years experience with Windows Vista" job ads which were put out when Vista was barely a year old. I had to do this several times over 2 years.

 

[Misty_Morning]

The crap of all crap jobs.


Dental Assistant
It's tough to clean teeth from across the world. A career as a dental assistant usually begins with an associate's degree from an accredited college or university.

Pharmacy Technician
People take their health seriously -- that's why a certification as a pharmacy tech is not likely to be outsourced.

Fitness Professional
It's hard enough to be motivated in-person. Offshore encouragement won't cut it. A career in fitness can begin with a certificate program.

Teacher Aide
Teachers need live help to care for kids. An anonymous, off-site representative just won't cut it when it comes to educating our kids.

Auto Repair Technician
Most car troubles can't be repaired with simple, over-the-phone instructions. An auto tech studies anywhere from 6 months to 2 or more years, and will always have a steady stream of live customers.

Pet Groomer
Along the lines of a dog trainer, pet grooming just must be done in person. This is usually only a certificate program.

Plumber
This career depends fully on local workers -- plumbers definitely won't be phoning in from overseas to unclog your toilet.

Veterinary Assistant
A pet's health and happiness is of serious importance to most owners, and they won't be putting it in the hands of foreign workers. You can become a vet assistant by completing a certificate program.

Electrician
This highly technical and hands-on job simply can't be done any other way, except live and in-person.

I don't get why you call these "crap" jobs.

Several of them look very appealing to me.

I had an uncle that was a plumber, and he was VERY wealthy and happy.

Bu I do understand your concern.

I'm a chemist. And the unemployment rate for chemists is the highest it has been (for the last several years) since the data has been kept. I have met chemists working at in grocery stores and convienence stores and various other places cuz they can't get a job in their profession. Meanwhile, the US is importing foreigners left and right for chemist position cuz "there aren't enough chemists here".....?


I don't know...I don't want to be a protectionist...but...yet I am to a certain extent.

I was reading in the local paper how the Neilson Company (the ratings dudes) was sold to a foreign company. All but a handful of people were terminated. The company imported nearly every worker at a reduced rate.

And they make no bones about physically moving the company overseas within the next year or two and having NO americans as employees.

I can't stand to even drive by that place anymore.


I'm all for helping other nations improve their quality of life...but at some point we have to say...enough.

 

[sr71plt]

They kinda skipped a few of the most obvious. Namely military, I really don't think the US will ever outsource the armed services, police officer for the same reason.

A healthy percentage of those in the U.S. military are not U.S. citizens--they have signed up for the U.S. military in pursuit of U.S. citizenship--and recruiters are delighted to get them. I'd say that's a form of outsourcing that job.

 

[Le Jacquelope]

I don't get why you call these "crap" jobs.

Several of them look very appealing to me.

I had an uncle that was a plumber, and he was VERY wealthy and happy.

Bu I do understand your concern.

I'm a chemist. And the unemployment rate for chemists is the highest it has been (for the last several years) since the data has been kept. I have met chemists working at in grocery stores and convienence stores and various other places cuz they can't get a job in their profession. Meanwhile, the US is importing foreigners left and right for chemist position cuz "there aren't enough chemists here".....?


I don't know...I don't want to be a protectionist...but...yet I am to a certain extent.

I was reading in the local paper how the Neilson Company (the ratings dudes) was sold to a foreign company. All but a handful of people were terminated. The company imported nearly every worker at a reduced rate.

And they make no bones about physically moving the company overseas within the next year or two and having NO americans as employees.

I can't stand to even drive by that place anymore.


I'm all for helping other nations improve their quality of life...but at some point we have to say...enough.

Well, for one, if you are trenching/working with septic tanks when you're plumbing, or you're up 60 foot on a pole job as an electrician, or you even do electric work with pools, the chance of severe injury or death is high enough that only California's last ditch work comp insurer, State Compensation Insurance Fund, will insure you for work comp for those jobs. (My wife and I run a brokerage, these issues are near and dear to us.)

I'm addressing these two because they're jobs you can't do if you're physically disabled. You can add auto repair technician and construction (which will be biggest "alternative energy" jobs benefit that Americans see) to that as a certainty.

That's three jobs right there that a disabled person can't do.

If you're allergic to certain animals, vet jobs and groomer jobs are out.

If you prefer a job away from people, that kills almost all of these jobs.

Disclaimer: that does not exclude most people from these jobs. But if you fall under one of those issues, these jobs suck.

The REAL problem here - the real suckage that I was getting at - is the utter lack of diversity of jobs in America, in the global economy.

In the future your job prospects involve climbing telephone polls, scrubbing septic tanks, cleaning up someone else's dog or dealing with their flea problem, dealing with grumpy old people and their prescription drug bills... oh hell, no.

The forecast calls for goodbye to research and development, for all the intelligent people out there. Goodbye to chemistry research, after all the hydrogen atom is the same in India as it is here. Alternative energy research will quickly move overseas. Finance is moving.

One thing that I see that has a chance of resisting offshoring is insurance. Sales and claims can't go overseas. They're not flying someone out from Pakistan to look at the tree that fell into your house, they won't fly someone from Brazil to sell you the policy, and the law prevents someone in India from quoting or writing your policy.

But insurance is the suckiest job of all if you're not a people person. I'm not a people person, if I was, I would have quit my job as a data center manager and hopped in with both feet into my wife's brokerage. I mainly make sure that my wife is not encumbered with paperwork and that the rules are in place for the office to run smooth. Plus I handle any tech issues. I don't do sales... my wife does that.

Between you and me, the biggest industry in America will soon be the commission only sales industry. Everything from Mary Kay to Tahitian Noni to worker's comp insurance. It probably is the biggest right now, it's just that the jobs studies have yet to comprehend how many people are tied up in these pyrami-er, multile-er, sales jobs.

 

[dr_mabeuse]

Plumber, Auto repair, and Electrician are high-skill, unionized jobs. They pay well and are hard to get into (except for Auto repair). Plumbing and Electrician also require years of training and apprenticeship.

Pet-groomer, fitness professional, teacher aide, these are minimum wage jobs. $10-$15/hr

Dental assistant, vet tech, and pharmacy tech are in the middle. You're not going to get rich. Not even close.

All in all, this is very dismal.

What about porn novelist. That should be in there.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

I dont like to confuse capitalists with monopolists & oligarchs, because doing so is like confusing fast-food & snacks with cooking. One is a subset of the other.

Many American companies and governments (national, state, local) exploit and abuse their resources (people are resources) for immediate gratification....money, usually. Like the government and lumber companies do when they clear-cut old forest. Each makes a bundle from the transaction but the habitat is destroyed or severely damaged. The companies/politicians create a mess for someone else to clean up.

This is what's happening in America today.

Politicians and companies argue that exporting jobs is part of free-trade; but it isnt. Trading American movies for African ivory is free-trade, because Africa has no significant film industry and America is lacking in elephants. So we swap Britney Spears & Miley Cyrus for billiard balls. But it could be diamonds or bananas or uranium....whatever we have a short supply of.

But jobs arent stuff.

People with jobs are consumers. They pay taxes and fees, and buy cars and vodka, and take trips to Disney World and titty bars. When they spend their pay they keep government oiled and create the dividend checks that fuel pensions.

Politicians and CEOs who conspire to fuck Americans out of jobs kill the goose that lays golden eggs, to make a quick profit.

 

[dr_mabeuse]

How come Prostitute isn't in the list?

 

[OLDERNWISER]

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