The vent thread

Wildcard Ky

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This will be kind of long, but I need to vent!!!

I've been dating someone that I really care about for well over a year. One of the things that makes it a good relationship is that we're both kind of pervs. We share the same sexual tastes and some of the same fantasies. We share what are fantasies are, whether we'd actually act on them, etc.

In discussing these fantasies, I decided there was one of hers that I wanted to make happen. I generally talked to her about it and she said that she would like for it to happen but under a very strict set of circumstances.

The basic of the fantasy is same room, no swap. If it could happen that way, she would love to do it, and would want it to be a surprise. She said that she would want about an hours notice so she could get ready.

I decided that I was going to make this happen for her. Yes, I would enjoy it, but it was her fantasy and it was going to be for her.

I spent a lot of time in trying to find the perfect couple to do this with. Lots of talking and "interviewing" to make sure everyone was on the same page about everything.

I finally found the perfect couple for it. They had the exact same fantasy and it was all agreed to and set up. The date was yesterday and I gave her the hours notice she'd wanted. She was very excited.

The couple showed up. We chatted, we had a few drinks to loosen nerves, we played some cards which turned into strip poker. Things were going great.

The other couple suggested we get the massage table out to get things started. While I was doing this, she went to the other room and had a few large drinks very quickly that I didn't know about.

It started with a massage on her and she quickly got into it. Within 10 minutes we were going at it pretty heavy, but no actual sex. She had a few orgasms then wanted to have sex. The other couple had started messing around on their own as well.

She suddenly felt sick and ran to the bathroom. She puked, she laid down on the bed and she was gone. This leaves me and the other couple with an agreement that there was no swapping. I left them to finish their fun, then they went home.

I spent the next 6 hours bored, watching TV and piddling with projects. I wasn't very happy, but sometimes shit happens.

I had already fallen asleep on the couch when she finally woke up. She came in to talk to me and was acting all lovey dovey. She saw that I wasn't real happy and asked what was wrong.

I said "you don't remember how things went?" Her answer was "I don't remember much. We played cards, I DRANK A FEW SHOTS while you were getting the table set up, I got on the table, but don't remember anything else."

That made me mad. She knows what happens when she drinks too much. She saw that I was now mad and wanted to know why. Her first question was why are you mad? and I didn't say say anything. Second question was did I (she) have sex with anyone? I said no. I guess she was worried that she had sex with the other guy and I was mad about it.

She said "why are you mad then?" I said I was mad because I had gone to a lot of time and trouble to make one of her life long fantasies come true in the exact way that she wanted it, including the surprise part. That her act of downing the shots had basically ruined it. She didn't remember any of it. I said so not only was the time and effort a bust, but I'll never be able to surprise you with this again. The opportunity for a first time surprise only happens once and now it's gone.

I guess none of that registered with her, and she informed me she doesn't think I should be mad at her, which has only made me more mad.

Am I in the wrong here?
 
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Think you're out of line.

Yes, I'm sure she knows what happens when she drinks too much. The problem is, while you're in the process of doing that, your common sense is already impaired before you get to that point.

I know you went to a lot of effort to set things up and it fell apart, but things happen. You knew what was coming, and had more time to prepare yourself for it. Because it was supposed to be a surprise, she wasn't prepared, and she probably had more of a case of nerves than you.

Thus, a little more liquid courage - which unfortunately turned into more than a little.

IMO, time to suck it up and apologize.
 
I think you have a right to be a little mad, but I think you ought to let it go. I also wonder if, when confronted with her fantasy becoming reality, she got a case of nerves and tried -- as Dark said -- to buck herself up with a few drinks. It's a shame for the two of you that it didn't work out, but to an extent, you take these kinds of chances when you plan events. I mean, what if she'd just gotten sick from something else? Then it wouldn't have panned out either.
 
I commend your nobility and sweet intentions BUT it wasn't to be, and now you know.

As Jack Aubruy says in MASTER AND COMMANDER, The Spanish are always brave but never ready.

Next time let her drive the bus.

And make-up!
 
I hate egotistical people. I can't stand them. I just want to punch them right in the jaw. I have such a flammable anger for those who think they are better than others.
They think they're smarter, better. When in reality they are just cowards sitting on the other side of their computers just as we are. The difference? We are not scared to back down. We are not afraid to say when enough is enough. But, we are also not afraid to stand up. We are fearless to fight. That is my vent. Sorry for subjecting any others to this as well.
 
Many years ago I was pumped up to do something along the same lines, a colonel and his lady wanted to get together with me and the missus. I liked his wife and she liked me, but he was awful when he got drunk, and that killed it before we left the restaurant.
 
I hate egotistical people. I can't stand them. I just want to punch them right in the jaw. I have such a flammable anger for those who think they are better than others.
They think they're smarter, better. When in reality they are just cowards sitting on the other side of their computers just as we are. The difference? We are not scared to back down. We are not afraid to say when enough is enough. But, we are also not afraid to stand up. We are fearless to fight. That is my vent. Sorry for subjecting any others to this as well.

Stop talking about me!
 
Fantasy vs reality. We all love the fantasy but when we try to make it a reality it often comes up very short.

I agree with Dark and Penn about her probably being nervous. But I guarantee that wasn't the only emotion she was feeling. No woman I've ever met works with only one emotion at a time running.

Are you in the wrong? Yes and no.

For being mad at how it turned out, yes you are a bit in the wrong... but only in that you need to be asking not why she did that (since she can't remember) but how could you be angry at her over something she can't even remember. Let that part go.

If she knows, as you said, that is what happens when she drinks a lot then she had to have been feeling something more than sexual excitement. The reality of what was happening probable overwhelmed her a bit.

Now disappointment over how it turned out is not at all in the wrong to be feeling. That's just human, cause as much as you were doing it for her you were going to get a near equal pleasure from it. So...

Don't let one moment sour things, and yes do it try again. Only this time, well maybe a lot longer talk first and leave the alcohol in the cabinet till after. Don't try for the fantasy of two couples having sex in the same room try for the reality of if.

I promise that's just a nice.
 
I hate egotistical people. I can't stand them. I just want to punch them right in the jaw. I have such a flammable anger for those who think they are better than others.
They think they're smarter, better. When in reality they are just cowards sitting on the other side of their computers just as we are. The difference? We are not scared to back down. We are not afraid to say when enough is enough. But, we are also not afraid to stand up. We are fearless to fight. That is my vent. Sorry for subjecting any others to this as well.

Is this directed at me?
 
Her fantasy in reality needed a lot of alcohol, those are the consequences.
It didn't work for her, this happens. New stuff can be weird, what is to get mad about?

If she drinks too much, you have another issue that you need to resolve outside of sex play. I have dated drug addicts and alcoholics, I don't encourage them by having either with them.

From my point of view if anyone needs to have alcohol to loosen up for sex with me, sex isn't happening. I want their full concentration and to own their actions. This has been interesting at times, but it works.
 
If she drinks too much, you have another issue that you need to resolve outside of sex play. I have dated drug addicts and alcoholics, I don't encourage them by having either with them.

I thought this, too. Especially since she'd already had alcohol -- the OP said they'd all had a few drinks to loosen up. So she had the shots on top of whatever she had before that, and presumably the total was over her tolerance. As Dark said, alcohol impairs judgement, so hers was probably already off when she had the shots.

It's all a shame it didn't work out, but I'm still guessing that the reality of it spooked her more than she expected and unfortunately that's the risk you take with almost any kind of surprise.
 
I think you missed your chance. When she said she couldn't remember if she had a good time, you could have told her that she loved every minute of it and told you that she thought you were a god and that she wanted to do it again. And then you could have set it up again. :D

I didn't see anything in this that came anywhere close to losing arms or legs. Sorry.
 
I commend your nobility and sweet intentions BUT it wasn't to be, and now you know.

As Jack Aubruy says in MASTER AND COMMANDER, The Spanish are always brave but never ready.

Next time let her drive the bus.

And make-up!

I have never read another author that has the command of language that O'Brian has. His nuance and pitch perfect word choices are riveting and amazing. To bad not much happens in the books.
 
I think you missed your chance. When she said she couldn't remember if she had a good time, you could have told her that she loved every minute of it and told you that she thought you were a god and that she wanted to do it again. And then you could have set it up again.

...:D

Good point! She could pretend to not remember.

But yeah, she was nervous and her fantasy may not have lined up with reality. More detailed discussion is warranted, it seems so chalk it up to not enough up front communication? And hide the liquor next time!
 
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