The US quest for democracy and freedom

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Harvard prof, a liberal*, says we've got to believe in the US's spreading of democracy, in line with Jefferson's noble visions. US efforts are the world's last best hope. Thus: Hang on and prevail in Iraq, and some of the old allies help would certainly be useful.

*One who's supported the war in Iraq, much like Kerry.

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Who Are Americans to Think That Freedom Is Theirs to Spread?

NY Times Magazine


By MICHAEL IGNATIEFF
Published: June 26, 2005
I.

As Thomas Jefferson lay dying at his hilltop estate, Monticello, in late June 1826, he wrote a letter telling the citizens of the city of Washington that he was too ill to join them for the 50th-anniversary celebrations of the Declaration of Independence. Wanting his letter to inspire the gathering, he told them that one day the experiment he and the founders started would spread to the whole world. '

'To some parts sooner, to others later, but finally to all,''

he wrote, the American form of republican self-government would become every nation's birthright. Democracy's worldwide triumph was assured, he went on to say, because ''the unbounded exercise of reason and freedom of opinion'' would soon convince all men that they were born not to be ruled but to rule themselves in freedom.
[...]

Despite the exceptional character of American liberty, every American president has proclaimed America's duty to defend it abroad as the universal birthright of mankind. John F. Kennedy echoed Jefferson when, in a speech in 1961, he said that the spread of freedom abroad was powered by ''the force of right and reason''; but, he went on, in a sober and pragmatic vein, ''reason does not always appeal to unreasonable men.'' The contrast between Kennedy and the current incumbent of the White House is striking. Until George W. Bush, no American president -- not even Franklin Roosevelt or Woodrow Wilson -- actually risked his presidency on the premise that Jefferson might be right.

But this gambler from Texas has bet his place in history on the proposition, as he stated in a speech in March, that decades of American presidents' ''excusing and accommodating tyranny, in the pursuit of stability'' in the Middle East inflamed the hatred of the fanatics who piloted the planes into the twin towers on Sept. 11.

If democracy plants itself in Iraq and spreads throughout the Middle East, Bush will be remembered as a plain-speaking visionary. If Iraq fails, it will be his Vietnam, and nothing else will matter much about his time in office. For any president, it must be daunting to know already that his reputation depends on what Jefferson once called ''so inscrutable [an] arrangement of causes and consequences in this world.''
[...]

And then there are the prisoners, the hooded man with the wires hanging from his body, the universal icon of the gap between the ideals of American freedom and the sordid -- and criminal -- realities of American detention and interrogation practice. The fetid example of these abuses makes American talk of democracy sound hollow. It will not be possible to encourage the rule of law in Egypt if America is sending Hosni Mubarak shackled prisoners to torture. It will be impossible to secure democratic change in Morocco or Afghanistan or anywhere else if Muslims believe that American guards desecrated the Koran. The failure to convict anybody higher than a sergeant for these crimes leaves many Americans and a lot of the world wondering whether Jefferson's vision of America hasn't degenerated into an ideology of self-congratulation, whose function is no longer to inspire but to lie.

II.
And yet . . . and yet. . . .

If Jefferson's vision were only an ideology of self-congratulation, it would never have inspired Americans to do the hard work of reducing the gap between dream and reality. Think about the explosive force of Jefferson's self-evident truth. First white working men, then women, then blacks, then the disabled, then gay Americans -- all have used his words to demand that the withheld promise be delivered to them. Without Jefferson, no Lincoln, no Emancipation Proclamation. Without the slave-owning Jefferson, no Martin Luther King Jr. and the dream of white and black citizens together reaching the Promised Land.

Jefferson's words have had the same explosive force abroad. American men and women in two world wars died believing that they had fought to save the freedom of strangers. And they were not deceived. Bill Clinton saluted the men who died at Omaha Beach with the words, ''They gave us our world.'' That seems literally true: a democratic Germany, an unimaginably prosperous Europe at peace with itself. The men who died at Iwo Jima bequeathed their children a democratic Japan and 60 years of stability throughout Asia.

These achievements have left Americans claiming credit for everything good that has happened since, especially the fact that there are more democracies in the world than at any time in history. Jefferson's vaunting language makes appropriate historical modesty particularly hard, yet modesty is called for.

Freedom's global dispersion owes less to America and more to a contagion of local civic courage, beginning with the people of Portugal and Spain who threw off dictatorship in the 1970's, the Eastern Europeans who threw off Communism in the 90's and the Georgians, Serbs, Kyrgyz and Ukrainians who have thrown off post-Soviet autocratic governments since. The direct American role in these revolutions was often slight, but American officials, spies and activists were there, too, giving a benign green light to regime change from the streets.

This democratic turn in American foreign policy has been recent. Latin Americans remember when the American presence meant backing death squads and military juntas.
[...]


And yet . . . and yet. . . . More than one world leader has been heard to ask his advisers recently, ''What if Bush is right?''

III.
Other democratic leaders may suspect Bush is right, but that doesn't mean they are joining his crusade. Never have there been more democracies. Never has America been more alone in spreading democracy's promise. The reticence extends even to those nations that owe their democracy to American force of arms. Freedom in Germany was an American imperial imposition, from the cashiering of ex-Nazi officials and the expunging of anti-Semitic nonsense from school textbooks to the drafting of a new federal constitution. Yet Chancellor Gerhard Schroder can still intone that democracy cannot be ''forced upon these societies from the outside.''

This is not the only oddity. As Thomas Kleine-Brockhoff of the German weekly Die Zeit points out, the '68-ers now in power in Germany all spent their radical youth denouncing American support for tyrannies around the world: ''Across the Atlantic they shouted: Pinochet! Somoza! Mubarak! Shah Pahlevi! King Faisal! Now it seems as though an American president has finally heard their complaints. . . . But what is coming out of Germany? . . . Nothing but deafening silence!''

[...]

The same discomfort with the American project extends to the nation that, in the splendid form of the Marquis de Lafayette, once joined the American fight for freedom. The French used to talk about exporting Liberté, Egalité et Fraternité, but nowadays they don't seem to mind standing by and watching Iraqi democrats struggling to keep chaos and anarchy at bay. Even America's best friend, Tony Blair, is circumspect about defining the Iraq project as anything more than managing the chaos. The strategy unit at 10 Downing Street recently conducted a study on how to prevent future international crises: debt relief, overseas aid and humanitarian intervention were all featured, but the promotion of democracy and freedom barely got a mention.
[...]

What is exceptional about the Jefferson dream is that it is the last imperial ideology left standing in the world, the sole survivor of national claims to universal significance. All the others -- the Soviet, the French and the British -- have been consigned to the ash heap of history. This may explain why what so many Americans regard as simply an exercise in good intentions strikes even their allies as a delusive piece of hubris.

The problem here is that while no one wants imperialism to win, no one in his right mind can want liberty to fail either. If the American project of encouraging freedom fails, there may be no one else available with the resourcefulness and energy, even the self-deception, necessary for the task. Very few countries can achieve and maintain freedom without outside help. Big imperial allies are often necessary to the establishment of liberty.

As the Harvard ethicist Arthur Applbaum likes to put it, ''All foundings are forced.'' Just remember how much America itself needed the assistance of France to free itself of the British. Who else is available to sponsor liberty in the Middle East but America? Certainly the Europeans themselves have not done a very distinguished job defending freedom close to home.

During the cold war, while most Western Europeans tacitly accepted the division of their continent, American presidents stood up and called for the walls to come tumbling down. When an anonymous graffiti artist in Berlin sprayed the wall with a message -- ''This wall will fall. Beliefs become reality'' -- it was President Reagan, not a European politician, who seized on those words and declared that the wall ''cannot withstand faith; it cannot withstand truth. The wall cannot withstand freedom.''

This is why much of the European support for Bush in Iraq came from the people who had grown up behind that wall. It wasn't just the promise of bases and money and strategic partnerships that tipped Poles, Romanians, Czechs and Hungarians into sending troops; it was the memory that when the chips were down, in the dying years of Soviet tyranny, American presidents were there, and Western European politicians looked the other way.
[...]

The contemporary liberal attitude toward the promotion of democratic freedom -- we like what we have, but we have no right to promote it to others -- sounds to many conservative Americans like complacent and timorous relativism, timorous because it won't lift a finger to help those who want an escape from tyranny, relativist because it seems to have abandoned the idea that all people do want to be free. Judging from the results of the election in 2004, a majority of Americans do not want to be told that Jefferson was wrong.

VI.
A relativist America is properly inconceivable. Leave relativism, complexity and realism to other nations. America is the last nation left whose citizens don't laugh out loud when their leader asks God to bless the country and further its mighty work of freedom. It is the last country with a mission, a mandate and a dream, as old as its founders. All of this may be dangerous, even delusional, but it is also unavoidable. It is impossible to think of America without these properties of self-belief.

Of course, American self-belief is not an eternal quantity. Jefferson airily assumed that democracy would be carried on the wings of enlightenment, reason and science. No one argues that now. Not even Bush. He does speak of liberty as ''the plan of heaven for humanity and the best hope for progress here on Earth,'' but in more sober moments, he will concede that the promotion of freedom is hard work, stretching out for generations and with no certain end in sight.

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[..]

It would be a noble thing if one day 26 million Iraqis could live their lives without fear in a country of their own. But it would also have been a noble dream if the South Vietnamese had been able to resist the armored divisions of North Vietnam and to maintain such freedom as they had. Lyndon Johnson said the reason Americans were there was the ''principle for which our ancestors fought in the valleys of Pennsylvania,'' the right of people to choose their own path to change. Noble dream or not, the price turned out to be just too high.

There is nothing worse than believing your son or daughter, brother or sister, father or mother died in vain. Even those who have opposed the Iraq war all along, who believe that the hope of planting democracy has lured America into a criminal folly, do not want to tell those who have died that they have given their lives for nothing. This is where Jefferson's dream must work. Its ultimate task in American life is to redeem loss, to rescue sacrifice from oblivion and futility and to give it shining purpose. The real truth about Iraq is that we just don't know -- yet -- whether the dream will do its work this time. This is the somber question that hangs unanswered as Americans approach this Fourth of July.
 
The UK and other countries are in Iraq (and Afghanistan) helping to make the dream possible and our soldiers are dying too.

Today's papers report that the US has been in secret discussions with Iraqi insurgent leaders to try to reach a compromise. Those discussions EXCLUDE the insurgents who are foreigners in Iraq like Al-Queda. That is a good development. If the US can talk to all Iraqis then there is a possibility that the Iraqi government can be extended to include all shades of opinion including those that hate the 'occupying' powers.

As Churchill said 'This is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning.'

Og
 
I don't know if it's at all clear that the Iraqis would prefer an American-style democracy to an Iranian-style theocracy.

To a large segment of militant Islamists, the idea of a government that doesn't put God in charge is sheer blasphemy, and an outside country (the US) who tries to impose such a godless state is doing the work of Satan and needs to be opposed at all costs.

Look at Iran. That's a nominal democracy. They just elected a new president. But are those people free? The de facto power in that country belongs to the clergy, who are unelected, answerable to no one, and who rule by fiat.

I really think that the USA takes a very naive view of what's required for a democracy. I really think that Bush & Co thought all they had to do was pull down Saddam and democracy would spontaneously break out in Iraq, as if it were an Ohio just waiting to happen.

We tend to grossly underestimate how important our faith and trust in each other as fellow citizens is in maintaining our democracy. It takes a lot more than going into a country and arranging for elections and a bicameral legislature. Democracy's not as easy nor as inevitable as it looks. If that faith and trust are seriously damaged or rendered untenable, then I worry about what will happen to the US as we know it.
 
That article takes a very one-eyed view of history. Claiming that General Lafayette supported the American revolutionaries for any reason other than to fuck over the British is an interesting tack and doesn't help the argument. Nor does the idea that the American style of democracy is the only one that works. I distinctly remember reading of the communist belief that it was only a matter of time until the capitalists fell and communism spread its bounty to the world.

However, the overall point is fairly solid and laudable.

The Earl
 
Waiting,

It seems to me that anyone in a foreign land, if he or she wants

a) simply to live
b) to have enough food,
c) to have a democratic, just government,

And his or her land is not rich in resources;

And if he or she is waiting for the US to send material aid or troops for these ends,

has probably got a long wait.

The Allies, including the US, were arguably on the side of 'right' in WWII--as Ignatieff and Bush and Cheney keep reminding us. But the Jews, I believe, can testify about the 'long wait.'
 
Pure said:
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c) to have a democratic, just government,

Not all democracies are just. Not all 'just' governments are democracies.

No government today is a democracy in the Ancient Greek sense. What we have are variations of representative democracies and how representative the representatives are is a moot point. Are your representatives representing you or the people who funded their campaign? What favours are they committed to repay? Are there people and organisations your representatives dare not offend?

Even if your representatives are free from financially induced bias, how well do they represent the views of the electorate including those who didn't vote for them and those who didn't vote at all?

Who selects the candidates that you vote for? Is that selection process free and open? Is it free from bias? Would a black atheist lesbian be considered? Would a white male plutocrat? Do family connections matter, or the school, church or university the candidate attended?

What is 'just' and is 'just' even possible short of the final judgement by an omniscient being?

Og
 
I don't think claiming your God is supreme and thereby implying that democracy is His will, is going to be an effective arguement in non-christian countries.

And where do people get off claiming that freedom goes hand in hand with democracy?

And where is democracy when you have only two versions of the same thing to vote for? At least those pinko commie bastards told you there was only one party instead of trying to fool you into thinking there were two.

Who was it? Barnum? Bailey? He got it wrong. You can fool all of the people all of the time. You just got to be selective in your foolery.
 
to ogg

Pure said [If someone wants]
c) to have a democratic, just government, [they probably have a long wait].


ogg: Not all democracies are just. Not all 'just' governments are democracies.

That is why I put both words, there, ogg. I meant, democratic and just. (The mechanism of the democracy is another issue).

My thesis is that the US is generally NOT in the business of intervening to 'give' the people of various suffering countries, 'a democratic and just government.'

The late and post WWII periods are exceptional, and explainable, in that Germany and Japan are apparent exceptions to the rule.

Looking even at the early WWII period, one sees that, the conquest of the Poles (which brought in Britain), the rounding up of Jews, in the West; and the slaughters at Nanjing and HongKong did nothing to move the US to intervene.

The killing of 1500 Americans and sinking a couple dozen American ships did the trick, at Pearl Harbor.

Nor did the Philippines end up with a democracy after they were 'freed.'

In the current situation, one simply needs to look to Afghanistan to see the kind of 'democracy' and 'freedom' that are going to exist in the next decades.
 
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