The two books I WOULD ban...

[Black_Bird]

Necronomicons all around!

I'M WITH SD! Nothing like a gibbering massive orgy with a tenticle-god from the farside of the universe to ring in the New Year!

 

[p_p_man]

You cannot ban ideas. Books are repositories of ideas.

By the widest stretch of the imagination you can't honestly say that the Bible and Koran are repositories of ideas.

They're nothing more than the Tales of the Brothers Grimm in another form...

Pure fairy stories.

That's why they should be banned. Too many people base their whole lives and creeds around books that are fiction. The books' influence is disproportionate to what they actually are.

 

[Angelus]

Let people read them (The Bible and The Koran I mean). If they want to take any meaning out of those books then they can. Just quit fighting over the damn things..... it isn't worth it.

 

[p_p_man]

Just quit fighting over the damn things..... it isn't worth it.

That's the trouble...they cause fights.

 

[Unclebill]

Originally posted by Black_Bird
You mean - when human beings are all replaced by robots... uh huh.

Hardly robots; only to a time when the irrational faith, superstition and mysticism are subordinated to the intellect of man. This is the means by which the worst in mankind will be suppressed or eliminated. And I'm skeptical that it can be eliminated but supremacy of reason and intellect can eradicate the use of prejudice, hatred and the other tools of the irrational to perpetuate their ilk. But so long as men deify the irrational and declare it superior to reason and intellect, there is little hope or chance of such achievement.

Originally posted by p_p_man
By the widest stretch of the imagination you can't honestly say that the Bible and Koran are repositories of ideas.
. . .
That's why they should be banned. Too many people base their whole lives and creeds around books that are fiction. The books' influence is disproportionate to what they actually are.

Not by any stretch of any imagination, but by the mere fact of the written word they are the expression of ideas. Words are the tools by which ideas are communicated.

That they are fiction vice fact does not negate that ideas are the basis of what is expressed. And there is a good chance that, in fact, much of what is there is fact, not fiction.

But the idea that it may well be factually based does not by any stretch of imagination allude that it was divinely inspired or dictated.

Banning them will never eliminate the ideas therein expressed. It will not even eliminate all of the books themselves. Any belief that it will is as ludicrously stupid as the idea that any laws of prohibition will ever achieve their stated objectives.

If anything, banning them will only attract more people out of curiosity to see what it is that is so bad that they must be protected from it. It's the same sort of psychological motivation that leads kids to try cigarettes, alcohol, et al; the forbidden fruit syndrome.

The fact that their influence is disproportionate to their value is largely due to the elevation of faith or superstition or mysticism to a position of supremacy over reason.

Originally posted by p_p_man
That's the trouble...they cause fights.

Talk about your FIRST's, here I am agreeing with p_p_man. Now there's a frightening thought, at least for me.

But I must acknowledge that as he alludes, religion has been second only to politicians in the devastation wrought on mankind by his fellow man. And I attribute this distinction because religion must recruit volunteers to participate in its atrocities while politicians can conscript their victims.

 

[SINthysist]

Remember those web-page programmers?

They cut off thier nads, wore the same sneakers, committed suicide in order to join the mother ship in the comet Kehotek (sp?).


Man those people had FAITH!

I think it's all insanity...