The Suspension of Disbelief: Dealing with human waste (and shit like that)

[TheMalevolence]

So, in a lot of stories including bondage which lasts for an extended amount of time, the writer has to think up a good excuse for the recipient (or victim) to not need the toilet at any point. Many people just don't address the issue, but I've seen some very creative ways of dealing with this problem in my time, and a few of them are even tube-free!

So, writers of LIT, Have you ever been faced with this problem, or came across a particularly good solution?

 

[sr71plt]

They don't often deal with it on TV and in movies, so there's no reason really to deal with it in written fiction, either (although I sometimes throw something in about). It's an accepted part of suspension of disbelief for all but the anal retentive. We have this discussion in terms of contraceptives a lot here.

 

[soflabbwlvr]

One of the stories I'm working on addresses that issue. It's a fantasy story in a medieval setting. The main character is spends three days chained up in a dungeon. She gets to use a bucket once or twice per day, and has very limited time to do so. Not the most creative solution, perhaps, but it works in the context of the story.

Had she only been there for one day or less and not been given any meals, I would have ignored it. But three days is too long to pretend it wasn't a problem.

 

[sr71plt]

Even that could be taken care of in a short sentence, e.g. "There was a slop bucket in the corner," while describing what she could see when she was led into the dungeon. All sorts of things are left out of or short circuited in a story when they don't serve the plot.

 

[lovecraft68]

I have to say I go along with pilot on this, its a detail that does not need mentioning and when I say that understand I am a fairly detail oriented person, but this is erotica and I don't feel I need the un-sexy detail of when my characters piss shit have their period or fart.

Perfect example in the show Game of Thrones when Theon is being tortured for weeks on end the bathroom detail was never mentioned. Nor did they ever address him having issues peeing with his cock cut off...

Only time I recall using bodily functions is in SWB when the MC was so wasted and sick from drug use she was pissing herself and not even being aware of it, but that was an un-sexy chapter.

My other use was during a hardcore BDSM initiation and during a "break" he took her into the bathroom, turned his back and told her she had a minute to go or lose out. That was added for the humiliation factor rather than "is anyone going to wonder when she peed?"

But it depends on what type of story you want. Something tells me with the OP's posting history he is working on a long drawn out non consent torture fest that will most likely involve someone being raped on the toilet. when they do go.

 

[TheMalevolence]

I genuinely thought you weren't going to insult me then, Lovecraft, but right at the end yah did it anyway, maybe next time, huh?

Anyway, thanks for the contributions

 

[CyranoJ]

I genuinely thought you weren't going to insult me then, Lovecraft, but right at the end yah did it anyway, maybe next time, huh?

Hey, everyone has a gift. Would you ask Gaugin not to paint? Maddie Ziegler not to dance? Hannibal Burress not to crack jokes? Charlie Sheen not to get high on eightballs? Shia LaBoeuf not to do... whatever it is he does now? I think not.

 

[someoneyouknow]

As a side note, this is one thing police look into when someone claims they were kidnapped and thrown into the trunk of a car or were at a specific location for any length of time.

You can only fight biology for so long.

 

[AMoveableBeast]

Hey, everyone has a gift. Would you ask Gaugin not to paint? Maddie Ziegler not to dance? Hannibal Burress not to crack jokes? Charlie Sheen not to get high on eightballs? Shia LaBoeuf not to do... whatever it is he does now? I think not.

Winning.

If you want an ultra-realistic story that addresses the less pleasant aspects of life, by all means, address it. The scene in the movie Secretary where the protagonist pisses herself is, to me, the most powerful scene in the movie. And in some ways, it's really quite beautiful.

If you want a zero squick-factor story, brush past it. Just the slightest wave to the possibility will do.

I don't like to ignore it completely in situations where it would be important. But you certainly shouldn't dwell on it in most tales.

Whatever you decide, I don't think the readers will get too pissed.

 

[sr71plt]

Winning.

If you want an ultra-realistic story that addresses the less pleasant aspects of life, by all means, address it. The scene in the movie Secretary where the protagonist pisses herself is, to me, the most powerful scene in the movie. And in some ways, it's really quite beautiful.

If you want a zero squick-factor story, brush past it. Just the slightest wave to the possibility will do.

You do realize, I hope, that those aren't the only two stops on the spectrum or the only reasons why you would to chose to write it the way you do.

 

[AMoveableBeast]

You do realize, I hope, that those aren't the only two stops on the spectrum or the only reasons why you would to chose to write it the way you do.

Of course. I just think it's a lot like breathing. It's always going on, but we don't talk about it. Now if your story is underwater or in space, it suddenly becomes something to write about.

 

[korrasami]

Depends on the piece

I'd say it depends on the piece. If it's not a very serious one, then skipping right over shouldn't alarm anyone. If it's serious and realistic, then it doesn't hurt to mention it in passing. Like saying, "they took her to the shower and cleaned her up...inside and out". That takes care of a lot with out having to subject the reader to details. Unless of course, that's what they're into haha.

 

[Hypoxia]

Human biological functions are powerful stuff. That's why we write about fucking, right? But we also write erotica where sex is implied, or off-stage. The same can be done with pissing/shitting -- use them for impact, or ignore them for simplicity. So, your character is bound, immobilized. Unless they're quite dehydrated, they'll piss themselves after a few hours. Maybe you'll mention or describe that, maybe not. If enough else is going on in the story, readers won't notice the absence of urine. You're the author; make it happen.

 

[sr71plt]

Just be aware that there aren't all that many people who find pissing and shitting yourself erotic. And erotica is the goal unless you're one of those who didn't realize this is a an erotica writing site. (Hi, James.)

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

The only instance of the topic I know of was in a John Wayne movie where he told his soldiers to do their business down stream and not ruin the coffee.

 

[robertreams]

I was once asked to edit a manuscript in which the protagonist could not get off sexually unless the object of his affections was smeared with human shit. Once i discovered the content, I was quick to admit there are some stories on some topics that I will not edit. Add to the mix that the "author" did not have English as his first language, and we are talking a truly difficult situation.

 

[oggbashan]

The heroine pissing herself is a significant plot item in my story https://www.literotica.com/s/raffle-prize

My poem The Garderobe is all about a toilet.

 

[49greg]

As has been said it's not something that gets mentioned in movies, novels or TV very often, but I can clearly remember seeing "The Adventures of Robin Hood" - the Errol Flynn version, when I was young, on TV most likely, and wondering where all the Merry Men did their business, and why they looked so clean when the were living rough out there in the forest. That led to wondering where the Lone Ranger did it.

Dad had this big wide bladed bowie knife and told us it came with his "parachute pack". He had been on a bomber crew in the Pacific during WW2, during the island hopping part of the Pacific war. One time he said he never used it to chop jungle, but he did dig holes with it in the sand.

Only years later did I figured out why he was digging holes in the sand.

As for my stories, I can't remember if I dealt with it, but on one I'm working on I did mention going to the bathroom to take care of the "morning routine" the next morning.

 

[elfin_odalisque]

Oh,nonsense. Characters in films, TV and Lit are not human so only have bodily functions if the author needs it to advance their plot.

Just think of the number of sexual encounters you have read that don't mention contraceptives. When did any of sr's beefy buddies unroll a condom?

You only need the plot.

 

[sr71plt]

When did any of sr's beefy buddies unroll a condom?

At least 50 percent of the time. In fact a condom was in use in the story I submitted to Lit. today. While we are at it, when is the last time you mentioned a condom in a story posted to Literotica? At least nine years, since it's been that long since you posted a story to Literotica.

Later: It appears, following a scan of Elfin's Lit. story holdings (which didn't take long, as there are only four stories for the eleven years since the first one was posted) that howsoever often I've mentioned condom use in my stories (which, as I posted, is probably over half the time), it's that many more than have been mentioned in Elfin's stories. Didn't find a single mention. "Fuck me, fuck me you bastard. Fill my cunt with your cream."

 

[49greg]

I do remember a John Wayne movie called "The Horse Soldiers", where a union cavalry raid into rebel territory captures a southern woman. To keep her from running off she has a rope tied around her and a trooper nearby holding the rope when she has to take care of a call of nature.

The reason they didn't want to let her go was that she overheard their plans when they stopped at her plantation early in the raid. They didn't want her alerting rebel troops and telling them the objective.

I think in real life they would have just killed her, but the plot called for a romantic involvement.

 

[RejectReality]

It's something I do all the time. Girls are always going to pee after the fun is over, and I frequently have someone wanting a drink during post-orgasm lulls in the action.

I don't go into any great detail about it. I just acknowledge it.

The cool down and rehydrate bit is good for passing time so the male half of the equation can get ready for action again. Her going to the bathroom provides an opportunity to point out some things. Is he already snoring before she gets up to go? Is he watching her every move with a goofy, half-surprised look on his face? Or maybe smug satisfaction?

I've also found it to be a useful transition to ending a stroke piece. It's that little bit of wind-down you need before putting in the closer.

 

[49greg]

It's something I do all the time. Girls are always going to pee after the fun is over, and I frequently have someone wanting a drink during post-orgasm lulls in the action.

I don't go into any great detail about it. I just acknowledge it.

The cool down and rehydrate bit is good for passing time so the male half of the equation can get ready for action again. Her going to the bathroom provides an opportunity to point out some things. Is he already snoring before she gets up to go? Is he watching her every move with a goofy, half-surprised look on his face? Or maybe smug satisfaction?

I've also found it to be a useful transition to ending a stroke piece. It's that little bit of wind-down you need before putting in the closer.

My personal experience is that I have to pee afterwards too. Being a gentleman I let my wife go first. Forget the gentlemanly part, I like to watch her walk away from me when she's nekked.

 

[sr71plt]

My personal experience is that I have to pee afterwards too. Being a gentleman I let my wife go first. Forget the gentlemanly part, I like to watch her walk away from me when she's nekked.

Hmmm, I neglected to consider this as a downside of having separate his/her bathrooms.