The Search For Noah's Ark

[Lancecastor]

Noah was instructed by God to save his family and the world's animals during a great flood that would cover the Earth. To do so, Noah built a large vessel, an ark. What followed was a pouring rain lasting 40 days and 40 nights. According to the Book of Genesis, as the Great Flood receded, the ark came to rest on the mountains of Ararat.

1949 Photo
http://www******.com/images/1949-f6_BIGAD.jpg

Aircraft imagery of Mount Ararat taken in June of that year and analyzed by U.S. intelligence officials includes a unique feature at the 15,500-foot level on the Northwestern Plateau. Then in 1973 and 1976, through the lenses of classified satellites, this "whatever-it-is" also purportedly stirred up the same community.

"It's called the 'Ararat Anomaly'," said Porcher Taylor, an assistant professor at the University of Richmond in Virginia, and an expert in satellite imaging diplomacy and the news media. He has been gathering evidence on the novel feature since 1993, including a set of those 1949 aerial shots of the area, now declassified.

Taylor said that arguments have erupted within intelligence circles for decades as to what truly has been seen on Mount Ararat.

"Debates center on whether or not it's a strange rock formation, a crashed airplane, perhaps a fortress or some other structure hundreds of years old … or maybe something more interesting of potentially biblical proportions," Taylor told SPACE.com. Certain individuals in the know, he added, believe what is visible in certain satellite pictures is the bow of a ship sticking out of a glacier.

http://www******.com/scienceastronomy/planetearth/noahs_ark_010823-1.html

 

[Lancecastor]

In 2002, the CIA took this picture of the anomoly:

according to: http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=29655

 

[Dixon Carter Lee]

No flood in recorded human history, particularly in the less than 4000 years past in which Chrisitanity and Jewish antiquity says Noah lived, would have set a boat that high.

Glad we settled that.

 

[Rex1960]

No flood in recorded human history, particularly in the less than 4000 years past in which Chrisitanity and Jewish antiquity says Noah lived, would have set a boat that high.

Glad we settled that.

DCL !! I somehow detect a great sense of misbelieve.
Next you tell me the Pope is failing...

 

[Johnny Mayberry]

Isn't this like seeing Richard Nixon in a baked potato? If you take enough pictures, from enough angles, looking for something specific, your eye will force something to fit that. It is an optical illusion, so get over it...

The flood was about 8000 years ago, and it simply flooded the region.

 

[Dixon Carter Lee]

The flood was about 8000 years ago, and it simply flooded the region.

"The" flood? It's generally regarded that the flood in the Bible was a general reference to floods that happen regularly all over the world, and that it most likely is not referring to an actual specific flood. In any case, unless Noah was the Siegfreid and Roy of his day an Ark didn't land on a mountain which was under water one moment and then encased in preserving ice the next.

Honestly, the unmitigated crap people believe.

 

[Lancecastor]

No flood in recorded human history, particularly in the less than 4000 years past in which Chrisitanity and Jewish antiquity says Noah lived, would have set a boat that high.

Glad we settled that.

The Bible specifically says that God caused the earth to be flooded until the waters exceeded the highest mountain by 20 feet (Gen7:20), and to the extent necessary so no human was capable of surviving without supernatural intervention.

www.nwcreation.net/ noahsark.html

 

[Rex1960]

"The" flood? It's generally regarded that the flood in the Bible was a general reference to floods that happen regularly all over the world, and that it most likely is not referring to an actual specific flood. In any case, unless Noah was the Siegfreid and Roy of his day an Ark didn't land on a mountain which was under water one moment and then encased in preserving ice the next.

Honestly, the unmitigated crap people believe.

Wait a minute DCL, but wasn't Charlton Heston .... nevermind

 

[Dixon Carter Lee]

The Bible specifically says that God caused the earth to be flooded until the waters exceeded the highest mountain by 20 feet (Gen7:20), and to the extent necessary so no human was capable of surviving without supernatural intervention.

I'm sorry, did you just quote the Bible as a geological history source?

 

[Mountain Man]

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The flood was about 8000 years ago, and it simply flooded the region.

You can just flood the region and have the ark settle at 15,200 ft on a mountain.....

and according to the jewish calander the year today is 5763.....so it was closer to 4000 than 8000 years ago

 

[Johnny Mayberry]

"The" flood? It's generally regarded that the flood in the Bible was a general reference to floods that happen regularly all over the world, and that it most likely is not referring to an actual specific flood. In any case, unless Noah was the Siegfreid and Roy of his day an Ark didn't land on a mountain which was under water one moment and then encased in preserving ice the next.

Honestly, the unmitigated crap people believe.

Hey, DCL...I'm hunting down the link now...there was asingle huge flood some 8-9000 years ago, caused by (I think) a lake bursting through the side of a mountain, so that it seemed to be coming from the sky...over time, that story got inflated to global proportions.

 

[Dixon Carter Lee]

Yeah, it's one of hundreds of events. There is no single "Flood" that inspired the Noah story.

 

[Johnny Mayberry]

You can just flood the region and have the ark settle at 15,200 ft on a mountain.....

and according to the jewish calander the year today is 5763.....so it was closer to 4000 than 8000 years ago

See, I was talking about science, not mythology...you can't just flood a region and drop a boat 3 miles up...the story, taken literally, is nonsense.

 

[busybody..]

I believe there are books that predate the Bible (Code of Hamurabi?) that make mention of these same floods......

As far the "years" are concerened......it should be noted that G-Ds conception of time is not the same as ours.....thus his creation of the worold in "six days" is not our six days.....The jewish calander of 5000 some years does not really mean the earth has been around for 5000 some odd years......as we understand it!

 

[Lancecastor]

I'm sorry, did you just quote the Bible as a geological history source?

Absolutely.

The Following article was printed on November 11, 1997 in The Washington Times.

"CIA SPY PHOTOS SHARPEN FOCUS ON ARARAT ANOMALY"

By Bill Gertz

THE WASHINGTON TIMES

In the secret world of intelligence, it goes by the bland name of the "Ararat Anomaly." But former intelligence officials say soon-to-be-released U.S. spy photographs of the odd formation high on Turkey's Mount Ararat could reveal something far more explosive: the remnants of Noah's Ark, the ancient vessel from the Bible that safely preserved a pair of every creature on Earth in the midst of a global flood.

"The pictures are real clear. You see the whole summit and lots of rock formations," said Dino A. Brugioni, a retired CIA photographic specialist who was directed to study the high-resolution photographs of the unusual Mount Ararat site two decades ago.

A series of images snapped by a U-2 spy plane at the end of a 3,000-mile reconnaissance flight from what was then the Soviet Union to Turkey caught the attention of a photo interpreter in his section.

http://www.acay.com.au/~lcoiro/noahsark.htm

 

[Lancecastor]

 

[watergirl]

The carpenter boys at work yesterday were talking about the ark being found... I was busy playing with stain and oil based in my corner as respirator face, so I couldn't come join the converation -

What prompted you to bring this up, Lance? I do think it's a fascinating subject... Seems like I read something in the Washington Post a while back about what Johnny Mayberry mentions- the overflowing lake wall busting - and somehow, the colder denser water sank to the bottom, and preserved things at the bottom amazingly well - I should go look for that.

 

[Guest]

The flood myths around the world have their origin in the end of the last ice age. Of course, dramatic increase in water-level of biblical proportion are location specific. i.e. there had to be sets of factorswhich enabled such deserster.

e.g. The canal that connects the Meditterranian and the Black Sea was once seperated, effectively creating a dam. Acumuration of melting ice led to the dam to break out.

Bingo!

 

[Johnny Mayberry]

And, lest we forget, many other 'discoveries' have proven to be false...wait a minute, are we maybe looking at this backwards? Is that stuff naturally occuring in the side of the mountain, Lance?

 

[Lancecastor]

The story of the Great Flood has passed on orally from generation to generation in 272 countries.

The accounts most similar to those of the Bible and the Qur’an are from Mesopotamia and China.

In Hawaii Prophet Nuh was ‘Nu-u’ and in China ‘Nu-wah’ (Hud 11:25).

All stories agree that The Flood came when the world had reached a dangerous point requiring the need to rid the world of evil (Xenohistorian p.5, 8).

http://www.islam-online.net/english/Science/2002/10/article07.shtml

 

[Johnny Mayberry]

Oh, never mind...you were getting info from WorldNetDaily..a extreme Christian Right website shouldn't be used as anything except lining a cyber-birdcage.

 

[modest mouse]

Does the CIA have pictures of any other fictional creations?

I'd love to see how Chitty Chitty Bang Bang has held up over the years.

 

[Thrillhouse]

http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/donald_morgan/absurd.shtml


GE 6:5 God is unhappy with the wickedness of man and decides to flood the earth to eliminate mankind. All living things including plants, animals, women and innocent children are also exterminated. (Note: This is like burning down a house to rid it of mice.)

GE 6:15 The size of Noah's Ark was such that there would be about one and a half cubic feet for each pair of the 2,000,000 to 5,000,000 species to be taken aboard.

GE 7:17-19 The flood covered the entire earth at the same time. (Note: There is no evidence of a worldwide flood, but rather of many, widespread, but local floods.)

GE 7:19-20 The flood covered the earth with water fifteen cubits (twenty plus feet) above the highest mountains.(Note: This would require steady, worldwide rainfall at the rate of about 6 inches per minute, 360 inches per hour, 8640 inches per day--for 40 days and nights--so as to cover the entire earth with an endless ocean 5 miles deep, thus burying 29,000 ft. Mt. Everest under 22 ft. of water. How did the author know the depth of the water? Did Noah take soundings? And where has all this water gone?)

GE 8:20 Noah's first recorded action following the flood is to sacrifice one of every clean animal and bird. (Since so few animals were saved, this could be considered rather wasteful and defeating. To see a discussion of the various ways this verse can be interpreted, and in turn the different ways to approach the Bible generally, see addendum)

 

[Rex1960]

Does the CIA have pictures of any other fictional creations?

I'd love to see how Chitty Chitty Bang Bang has held up over the years.

Don't they have this thingy in their secret stock Indiana Jones once saved from the Nazis ?

 

[Lancecastor]

What prompted you to bring this up, Lance?

It just popped into my head when I was thinking about the Avro Arrow as a perceived threat to the U2.

Bono was deeply worried....oops, wrong U2...the U2 spyplane, I remembered, had supposedly taken pics years ago of the "ararat anomoly" and a retired NASA astronaut led an expedition to it as well.

Given the stories of the Flood and the Ark are prevalent in all ancient texts, and given that there are fossils of marine life in most mountains, I find it an interesting topic.

As a GB topic I think it works because:

1. It can't be proven;

2. It opens doors to opinions on spirituality;

3. It crosses most every culture;

4. Beastiality!

Lance