The path forward

REDWAVE

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A revolutionary situation continues to develop, in the U.S. and throughout the world. The underlying objective conditions for revolution are provided by the ongoing collapse of the global capitalist economy. In its final, decrepit stage of neo-imperialism, capitalism in the more advanced nations (North America, Europe, Japan) has come to rely more and more upon financial parasitism, as the industrial base is progressively eroded and shipped overseas, to exploit cheap labor and lax (or nonexistent) regulation. The Japanese economy of the 1990's, mired in a decade-long recession, has proven to be the harbinger for the world capitalist economy. In the less developed nations, and especially in East Asia, the same processes which took place in Europe and North America in the late nineteenth century are taking place now. Peasants are being driven off the land, and flock to cities, where the only work they can find is in the factories of the capitalists. Protests and resistance by workers is growing, especially in China. The European and U.S. ruling classes solved this problem through imperialism. The superexploitation of the colonial nations generated such vast superprofits that the capitalists could afford to throw the workers enough sops to buy labor peace. The bourgeoisie in the developing countries have no such options.

The ever falling rate of profit, as the means of production become ever more developed, spells inevitable disaster for the capitalist system. All its contradictions are now coming to a head. The U.S. ruling class is about to launch an imperialist war of aggression and mass slaughter against the Iraqi people, in a desperate bid to control the oil wealth of the Middle East and maintain U.S. global hegemony. It does this on the basis of an economic base much weaker than it was in 1945, and with a divided, alienated, and increasingly impoverished populace.

It is not at all surprising under these conditions that an international mass movement of protest has arisen. However, so far the movement has been led and organized by reformist misleaders, who foster illusions in the electoral process, the Democratic Party, and the institutions of bourgeois society (such as the U.N.) generally. It is imperative that revolutionary leadership come to the fore as quickly as possible, ousting the reformist misleaders, and guiding the oppressed masses along the path to worldwide socialist revolution. It is necessary to wage constant intellectual and political war against the reformists, and expose the hollowness and emptiness of their program for all to see. Central to this fight at this point is the call for political strikes against the war, to halt war production and stop the U.S. war machine dead in its tracks.

Bring the war home! Turn the imperialist war into civil war!

Two, three, many Vietnams! Many defeats for U.S. imperialism!

Long live the worldwide socialist revolution-- the only hope for humanity!
 
REDWAVE said:
It is imperative that revolutionary leadership come to the fore as quickly as possible,

Ok I'll be a new leader. As part of my new leadership....pancakes for everyone. :D
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I like Swedish pancakes-- and French pancakes, of course.
 
Vietnam was only a mistake in my opinion, because, we went at it half assed with one hand tied behind our back. We have learned our lesson.

Just wanted to address that part of your....post.
 
REDWAVE said:
The Japanese economy of the 1990's, mired in a decade-long recession, has proven to be the harbinger for the world capitalist economy.

Thank you, that's very thoughtful of you to say. You're such a flatterer.:eek:
 
REDWAVE said:
Long live the worldwide socialist revolution-- the only hope for humanity!

God, you are so funny and entertaining! If you ever come out of your drug induced stupor and decide to participate in life instead of always expecting to be given everything, I will take you out for a beer!

Your choice! :D
 
8ball

The U.S. military dropped more tonnage of bombs on Vietnam than it did on Nazi Germany (a far more formidable foe) during World War Two. If that's what you call fighting with one hand tied behind your back, I'd hate to see what you'd call using both hands.
 
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REDWAVE said:
The U.S. military dropped more tonnage of bombs on Vietnam than it did on Nazi Germany (a far more formidable foe) during World War Two. If that's what you call fighting with one hand tied behind your back, I'd hate to see what you'd call using both hands.

Actually, yes. That war needed more manpower, not just bombs. ie. Operation Desert Storm. Use of overwhelming firepower. Well, it helped that the Iraqi's didn't really want to fight all that much because of their 'leader' and his barbarious ways.
 
Canada is one of the most "socialist" free countries in the world, so the principles behind your call for Revolution resonate with most Canadians.

Things like equality before the law, education, health care, compression of wages/rewards across classes, gender/gay/minority/disabled rights...are all quite a distance to the left from US policies, opinions and business practices.

Our current Social Agenda includes discussions on decriminalization pot, maintaining equal and full health care for all, a national Day Care program, preserving a Guaranteed Income through Employment Insurance....

Pure capitalism, USA style, has resulted in class warfare, ghettos, racism, rape, murder, imprisonment...all at rates higher than in other industrialized societies.

You see much more of it when you have a Republican White House & Congress.

The american Underclass will suffer greatly over the next 6 years I fear.

Good luck.

Lance
 
Are you fomenting sedition Red? In most places you'd be arrested for that. You're fortunate that you live in this country where you aren't arrested for statements like that.
 
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Lancecastor said:
Canada is one of the most "socialist" free countries in the world, so the principles behind your call for Revolution resonate with most Canadians.

Things like equality before the law, education, health care, compression of wages/rewards across classes, gender/gay/minority/disabled rights...are all quite a distance to the left from US policies, opinions and business practices.

Our current Social Agenda includes discussions on decriminalization pot, maintaining equal and full health care for all, a national Day Care program, preserving a Guaranteed Income through Employment Insurance....

Pure capitalism, USA style, has resulted in class warfare, ghettos, racism, rape, murder, imprisonment...all at rates higher than in other industrialized societies.

You see much more of it when you have a Republican White House & Congress.

The american Underclass will suffer greatly over the next 6 years I fear.

Good luck.

Lance

I'm glad that Canada is our neighbor. You are a kind and supportive friend even if your policies are a little different.

I don't agree with you that crime is a result of capitalism. I think that a larger part of it is our weak judicial system that often coddles criminals at the expense of their victims.
 
I don't know what's more fun: watching people shit on REDWAVE's parade, or the fact that he keeps walking obliviously through it.

TB4p
 
Canada not exempt

Quite true, Lance, and I still remember fondly my travels through British Columbia and parts of Alberta as a youth. But Canada is hardly exempt from the general retrograde movement of society which started in 1969. The Ontario Tories have already gone a long way toward dismantling the welfare state in that province, from what I've read.
 
LovetoGiveRoses said:
I'm glad that Canada is our neighbor. You are a kind and supportive friend even if your policies are a little different.

I don't agree with you that crime is a result of capitalism. I think that a larger part of it is our weak judicial system that often coddles criminals at the expense of their victims.

But we coddle our criminals as well. Yet our crime rates are always significantly less than yours - even taking into account population density and numbers.
 
LovetoGiveRoses said:
Are you fomenting sedition Red? In most places you'd be arrested for that. You're fortunate that you live in this country where you aren't arrested for statements like that.

I thought you could under the stupidly named Patriot Act...

Maybe they just haven't got around to RED yet...

And Lance talks with straight tongue...

:)

ppman
 
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REDWAVE said:
Quite true, Lance, and I still remember fondly my travels through British Columbia and parts of Alberta as a youth. But Canada is hardly exempt from the general retrograde movement of society which started in 1969. The Ontario Tories have already gone a long way toward dismantling the welfare state in that province, from what I've read.

They aren't dismantling it so much as making it a little harder for those who'd like to leech off of it for their entire lives. Now a person is pretty much forced to get off their ass and get a job, instead of popping out kids one after another, or sucking the system dry for years on end.
 
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Freya2 said:
Now a person is pretty much forced to get off their ass and sucking the system dry for years on end.

Hi, Freya! I just love it when you talk dirty like that.
;)
 
I wasn't aware that capitilism is failing. The unemployment rate remains around 5-6%. Upward mobility is still an integral part of America for most and many are moving from lower income levels to middle income levels. All in all things seem to be going well.

Red, why haven't you been able to find work? There are literally hundreds of thousands of jobs available around here. If you can't find jobs where you're at, have you looked in other places. Are you in a field that is dissapearing like horse and buggy driver? Have you considered another field. Las Vegas has an economy that is more than just casinos now, aren't there any jobs in fields that you're interested in?
 
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REDWAVE said:
Hi, Freya! I just love it when you talk dirty like that.
;)

Hi Redwave - long time no chat. How's things in your world?
 
LovetoGiveRoses said:
Las Vegas has an economy that is more than just casinos now

It does? What else does it have?*

*Note: this is not a facetious question. I'd actually like to know the answer.
 
islandman said:
It does? What else does it have?*

*Note: this is not a facetious question. I'd actually like to know the answer.

Here:

New resorts add thousands of hotel rooms to the market every year, but they fill up just as fast as their predecessors, at a rate of 89 percent in 2000. The marketing efforts of the Las Vegas Convention & Visitors Authority, as well as strategic alliances with the airline industry, have helped keep Las Vegas prominent in the minds of conventioneers and vacationers. With Asia moving out of its economic slump and Europe moving toward a strong common currency, revenues from international tourism should rise steadily over the next few years, another encouraging sing of better times to come.

Nevada’s economy is the least diversified of any state, but that hasn’t been a problem because of its booming tourism and gaming industries. Still, there have been ongoing efforts to attract a variety of new businesses, headed by such organizations as the Las Vegas Chamber of Commerce and the Nevada Development Authority. Selling Las Vegas isn’t difficult when the city has so much to offer, including numerous tax incentives, a business-friendly attitude, and Las Vegas’ evolution into a cosmopolitan city and a transportation hub for the western and southwestern United States. Companies such as Ford Motor Company have recognized that moving to Las Vegas is good for business. In 2000, Ford opened a major regional administrative office in the city, expected to employ 700 people, a number that could double in the coming years. Back-office and consolidated administrative operations comprise one of the city’s hottest growth sectors; Las Vegas has the raw land required for their big-box facilities that can reach 100,000 square feet, and that can potentially add 600 to 1,000 people to each new company’s workforce.

New distribution centers and industrial parks have also helped diversify the city’s economic base. An average of 1.5 million square feet of new office space becomes available in the city every year, much of it claimed before construction begins. Retail growth evolves out of population growth, which in Las Vegas is a recipe for success, and a series of infrastructure projects have kept the construction industry busy between new resort building projects.

Community efforts are not focused exclusively on the realm of large companies. Las Vegas is also recognized as a prime haven of small and start-up businesses. In fact, the majority of companies that set up shop in Las Vegas this past year have fewer than 25 employees. Most of them hire additional employees within their first two years – another testament to Las Vegas’ healthy local economy.

Every year, the Nevada Business Journal and the accounting firm of Deloitte & Touche conduct an annual survey of the Southern Nevada business community to gauge its satisfaction and enthusiasm. Since polling began, the number of companies that consider Southern Nevada a good place to do business has never dropped below 98 percent.
 
Freya2 said:
But we coddle our criminals as well. Yet our crime rates are always significantly less than yours - even taking into account population density and numbers.

yes but nobody has taken in account that its so damn cold in canada that it is stupid to be out in the streets committing crimes.

factor in the temperature variety ratio vs crime types vs population density vs numbers vs etc. and you will shockingly come to the crime that does happen in canada is significantly higher.
 
Freya

Not bad. The anti-war movement here in Las Vegas is really starting to take off, and I'm right in the thick of it. The job situation is lousy, but fortunately I don't have to worry about going hungry or becoming homeless-- not yet, anyway.

The weather here has been great. Hardly seems like winter at all. (Heh, heh-- I'm just rubbin' it in, because I know it's damned cold where you are.)
 
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