The Party of Rapists and Sexual Predators

No, they're not -- not in 1974, and not now.
The fuck they aren't. They have stalled balked or interfered with every single cabinet appointment. They have made hundreds of unfounded accusations and done their damnedest to sabotage everything the Trump administration has done or tried to do. They are INTENTIONALLY stalling and bogging down normal government processes. And I'm not even going to get into the whole Antifa and inciting riots thing.

The Dems lost so now they want to make sure that Trump CANNOT get anything done. This way come 2020 they can point at Trump and say, "He never accomplished anything."

Only the plan is backfiring, people are seeing what they are doing and now they are just desperate and pathetic.

And I suppose you think the dems aren't the real fascists and Nazis that they claim the GOP is. Yet every move they have made is right off the pages of Mein Kompff.
 
The fuck they aren't. They have stalled balked or interfered with every single cabinet appointment. They have made hundreds of unfounded accusations and done their damnedest to sabotage everything the Trump administration has done or tried to do. They are INTENTIONALLY stalling and bogging down normal government processes.

None of that, if true, is treason; it is merely politics; and the Pubs did far, far worse, and far, far less reasonably, in the obstruction line when Obama was president.

And I'm not even going to get into the whole Antifa and inciting riots thing.

Don't indeed; that's nothing the Dems are actually doing.

The Dems lost so now they want to make sure that Trump CANNOT get anything done. This way come 2020 they can point at Trump and say, "He never accomplished anything."

And it would be far, far worse if he had. Somebody has to check him; you can't always rely on his own staff.

Only the plan is backfiring, people are seeing what they are doing and now they are just desperate and pathetic.

The polls still show a blue wave coming in November.

And I suppose you think the dems aren't the real fascists and Nazis that they claim the GOP is. Yet every move they have made is right off the pages of Mein Kompff.

Can you be more specific?
 
So, after the disturbing and extremely credible allegation that Brett Kavanaugh attempted to rape Christine Blasey Ford at a party when she was 15 years old, Republicans have come out of the woodwork, attempting to defend his behavior.

Everything from “boys will be boys” to “that was a long time ago” to “he was pig-drunk at the time” to “attempted rape isn’t actually a crime” has been offered up as a means of defending Kavanaugh’s sexual assault of a 15 year old girl.

It says a lot that so many Republicans are willing to defend Kavanaugh’s sexual assault against Christine Blasey Ford. The Republicans are so ready, willing and able to defend rapists, it’s almost like they’re the party of rapists and sexual predators.

Almost?

Last year, a Republican legislator from New Hampshire, named Robert Fisher was unmasked as an architect of an extremely misogynistic website where women are basically treated as the enemy of men, and it discusses strategies for fighting against women and against women’s rights.

In addition to being anti-woman, the website is also pro-rape. In one of the more infamous posts written by Fisher, he considered rape from the rapist’s perspective.

“I’m going to say it. Rape isn’t an absolute bad,” Fisher wrote, “Because the rapist I think probably likes it a lot. I think he’d say it’s quite good, really.”

And Robert Fisher isn’t alone. Republicans taking the side of the rapists seems to be pretty much the norm these days.

On 19 August 2012, U.S. Representative Todd Akin of Missouri, a Republican who was challenging incumbent Democrat Claire McCaskill for her seat in the U.S. Senate, was interviewed by St. Louis television station KTVI. During that interview, Akin was asked whether he believed abortion was justified in cases of rape, and he responded by asserting that “legitimate rapes” rarely resulted in pregnancy:

“It seems to be, first of all, from what I understand from doctors, it’s really rare. If it’s a legitimate rape, the female body has ways to try to shut the whole thing down.”

Two years later, while appearing in another television interview with MSNBC to promote his new book Firing Back, Akin asserted that “legitimate rape” was a law enforcement term and that his original remark had been “intentionally misunderstood”.

Funny thing is, there isn’t a law enforcement official anywhere in this country who is willing to back up Akin on his claim that “legitimate rape” is a law enforcement term. The phrase “legitimate rape” isn’t listed in any law enforcement document anywhere in this country. It’s like Akin just made the term up, in an attempt to malign women, and make them seem like they’re willing participants in sexual assaults.

And then we have Bryan Fischer of the American Family Association. Bryan Fischer is a radio host with millions of listeners. Republican candidates chronically seek Fischer’s endorsement as his radio show can influence millions of Republican votes. Fischer is very popular amongst Republican voters nowadays.

Fischer; of course; was a very strong supporter of Todd Akin and Todd Akin’s comments on rape.

“What Todd Akin is talking about”, Bryan Fischer said in public agreement with Todd Akin, “Is when you’ve got a real, genuine rape. A case of forcible rape, a case of assault, where a woman has been violated against her will through the use of physical force where it is physically traumatic for her, under those circumstances, the woman’s body — because of the trauma that has been inflicted on her — it may interfere with the normal function processes of her body that lead to conception and pregnancy.”

And then there’s Lawrence Lockman, a Republican member of the Maine House of Representatives, who asked, “If a woman has (the right to an abortion), why shouldn’t a man be free to use his superior strength to force himself on a woman?”

He even had the balls to refer to rape, as a man exercising his “pursuit of sexual freedom”.

Right-wing media figures like Fox News' Andrea Tantaros have a habit of attacking efforts to address sexual assault as proof of a "war" on men on boys, but many institutions actually favor alleged perpetrators when investigating the crimes.

And back in 2014, when the Obama White House released a report addressing campus sexual assault, the right-wing media rushed to try to discredit findings that one in five women experienced attempted or completed sexual assault while in college. In the time since the right-wing media have continuously questioned sexual assault statistics, with right-wing media figures like Rush Limbaugh going as far as to go on record about campus sexual assault to claim that "it's not happening" at all."

Andrea Tantaros of Fox news Channel seems to believe that frat boys who rape college girls have little choice in the matter and should not be blamed when they rape college girls. In defense of frat boys who rape college girls, Andrea Tantaros says, “These girls show up at these fraternity houses. The guys, what are they supposed to do? Lock them out? ‘Hey, how are you?’ They have a couple more beers, the girl passes out.”

What are they supposed to do?

How about NOT raping the girl? That’s the first answer that pops into my head. Apparently, the idea of NOT RAPING never occurred to Andrea Tantaros.

Andrea Tantaros also attacked MSNBC for daring to spend about an hour of broadcast time, covering the Senate military sexual assault hearings back in 2013, saying that saying “what they consider to be priorities” is “unbelievable.”

She also attacked President Barack Obama for speaking out against sexual assaults in the U.S. military, saying, “That same [Memorial Day] weekend, he talked about military rape. What a smack in the face of the men and the women have served us with dignity and gave the ultimate sacrifice. … I mean, it’s the way they prioritize these things. It’s unbelievable.”

The Pentagon estimates that 26,000 cases of sexual assault occurred in the military in 2012 alone, but apparently, tens of thousands of sexual assaults are nothing to be outraged about. What Tantaros thinks should inspire outrage is if we TALK about sexual assaults or attempt to DO SOMETHING about stopping them!!

Ann Coulter is just as bad, claiming that “there is no campus rape problem” and that unless a victim gets “hit on the head with a brick,” it isn’t a legitimate rape.

And then we have the current leader of the Republican Party on tape, bragging about how he can sexually assault women and get away with it, because he’s rich and famous. If he meets an attractive woman who’s married and not willing to have sex with him, that’s no problem. According to Donald Trump, he can just grab them by their genitals. There’s no guilt and no consequences. Trump indicates that he perpetrates sexual assaults like this all the time.

Defending rapists and maligning the victims of rape seems to be standard operating procedure for the Republican Party these days.


Republican Congressman Steve King came out with pro-rape statements just as he was attacking medical procedures for women who wish to terminate a pregnancy early.

"What if we went back through all the family trees and just pulled those people out that were products of rape and incest?” King asked, “Would there be any population of the world left if we did that? Considering all the wars and all the rape and pillage that has taken place ... I know I can't certify that I was not a part of a product of that."

So, rape is good, but if a woman is raped and wants to terminated the pregnancy, that’s bad.

What is it about Republicans? Why do they keep defending rape?
 
I saw something in the OP that I didn't notice before. The age of the accuser was listed. As I recall, she had no idea as to the date but, if she was that age and a student in high school, that would narrow it down quite a bit.

And, to reiterate, there are probably as many Dems who commit rape and other sex crimes as there are Reps. I don't know how we can prove that one way or another, but sex crimes are not a partisan political act.
 
Newly leaked emails show that conservative state Rep. Matt Shea has had close ties with a group that trained children and young men for religious combat in Washington state.

The Spokesman-Review newspaper reported that the emails were first revealed in The Guardian on Wednesday, while Shea's ties with Team Rugged also showed up in a video on Shea's public Facebook page.

"The entire purpose behind Team Rugged is to provide patriotic and biblical training on war for young men," a man identified as the group's leader, Patrick Caughran, wrote in a 2016 email to Shea, a Republican from Spokane Valley.

"Everything about it is both politically incorrect and what would be considered shocking truth to most modern christians," Caughran wrote. "There will be scenarios where every participant will have to fight against one of the most barbaric enemies that are invading our country, Muslims terrorists."

The event also would offer weapons training, Caughran told Shea.

"Those who attend will learn combatives, the use of a knife in defense, close quarters shooting with rifle and pistol and how to work effectively in teams of 2, 3 and 4," according to the email from Caughran to Shea.


https://www.king5.com/article/news/...-war/281-67dc8d63-c91a-4f31-8466-421510a00a1b
 
We seem to have reached the point where you cannot have a leadership post in the Republican Party unless you are pro-rape and anti-women's rights.
 
The fuck they aren't. They have stalled balked or interfered with every single cabinet appointment. They have made hundreds of unfounded accusations and done their damnedest to sabotage everything the Trump administration has done or tried to do. They are INTENTIONALLY stalling and bogging down normal government processes. And I'm not even going to get into the whole Antifa and inciting riots thing.

The Dems lost so now they want to make sure that Trump CANNOT get anything done. This way come 2020 they can point at Trump and say, "He never accomplished anything."

Only the plan is backfiring, people are seeing what they are doing and now they are just desperate and pathetic.

And I suppose you think the dems aren't the real fascists and Nazis that they claim the GOP is. Yet every move they have made is right off the pages of Mein Kompff.

If this is true, does it anger you?
 
So, after the disturbing and extremely credible allegation that Brett Kavanaugh attempted to rape Christine Blasey Ford at a party when she was 15 years old, Republicans have come out of the woodwork, attempting to defend his behavior.

Everything from “boys will be boys” to “that was a long time ago” to “he was pig-drunk at the time” to “attempted rape isn’t actually a crime” has been offered up as a means of defending Kavanaugh’s sexual assault of a 15 year old girl.

It says a lot that so many Republicans are willing to defend Kavanaugh’s sexual assault against Christine Blasey Ford. The Republicans are so ready, willing and able to defend rapists, it’s almost like they’re the party of rapists and sexual predators.

Almost?

Last year, a Republican legislator from New Hampshire, named Robert Fisher was unmasked as an architect of an extremely misogynistic website where women are basically treated as the enemy of men, and it discusses strategies for fighting against women and against women’s rights.

In addition to being anti-woman, the website is also pro-rape. In one of the more infamous posts written by Fisher, he considered rape from the rapist’s perspective.

“I’m going to say it. Rape isn’t an absolute bad,” Fisher wrote, “Because the rapist I think probably likes it a lot. I think he’d say it’s quite good, really.”

And Robert Fisher isn’t alone. Republicans taking the side of the rapists seems to be pretty much the norm these days.

On 19 August 2012, U.S. Representative Todd Akin of Missouri, a Republican who was challenging incumbent Democrat Claire McCaskill for her seat in the U.S. Senate, was interviewed by St. Louis television station KTVI. During that interview, Akin was asked whether he believed abortion was justified in cases of rape, and he responded by asserting that “legitimate rapes” rarely resulted in pregnancy:

“It seems to be, first of all, from what I understand from doctors, it’s really rare. If it’s a legitimate rape, the female body has ways to try to shut the whole thing down.”

Two years later, while appearing in another television interview with MSNBC to promote his new book Firing Back, Akin asserted that “legitimate rape” was a law enforcement term and that his original remark had been “intentionally misunderstood”.

Funny thing is, there isn’t a law enforcement official anywhere in this country who is willing to back up Akin on his claim that “legitimate rape” is a law enforcement term. The phrase “legitimate rape” isn’t listed in any law enforcement document anywhere in this country. It’s like Akin just made the term up, in an attempt to malign women, and make them seem like they’re willing participants in sexual assaults.

And then we have Bryan Fischer of the American Family Association. Bryan Fischer is a radio host with millions of listeners. Republican candidates chronically seek Fischer’s endorsement as his radio show can influence millions of Republican votes. Fischer is very popular amongst Republican voters nowadays.

Fischer; of course; was a very strong supporter of Todd Akin and Todd Akin’s comments on rape.

“What Todd Akin is talking about”, Bryan Fischer said in public agreement with Todd Akin, “Is when you’ve got a real, genuine rape. A case of forcible rape, a case of assault, where a woman has been violated against her will through the use of physical force where it is physically traumatic for her, under those circumstances, the woman’s body — because of the trauma that has been inflicted on her — it may interfere with the normal function processes of her body that lead to conception and pregnancy.”

And then there’s Lawrence Lockman, a Republican member of the Maine House of Representatives, who asked, “If a woman has (the right to an abortion), why shouldn’t a man be free to use his superior strength to force himself on a woman?”

He even had the balls to refer to rape, as a man exercising his “pursuit of sexual freedom”.

Right-wing media figures like Fox News' Andrea Tantaros have a habit of attacking efforts to address sexual assault as proof of a "war" on men on boys, but many institutions actually favor alleged perpetrators when investigating the crimes.

And back in 2014, when the Obama White House released a report addressing campus sexual assault, the right-wing media rushed to try to discredit findings that one in five women experienced attempted or completed sexual assault while in college. In the time since the right-wing media have continuously questioned sexual assault statistics, with right-wing media figures like Rush Limbaugh going as far as to go on record about campus sexual assault to claim that "it's not happening" at all."

Andrea Tantaros of Fox news Channel seems to believe that frat boys who rape college girls have little choice in the matter and should not be blamed when they rape college girls. In defense of frat boys who rape college girls, Andrea Tantaros says, “These girls show up at these fraternity houses. The guys, what are they supposed to do? Lock them out? ‘Hey, how are you?’ They have a couple more beers, the girl passes out.”

What are they supposed to do?

How about NOT raping the girl? That’s the first answer that pops into my head. Apparently, the idea of NOT RAPING never occurred to Andrea Tantaros.

Andrea Tantaros also attacked MSNBC for daring to spend about an hour of broadcast time, covering the Senate military sexual assault hearings back in 2013, saying that saying “what they consider to be priorities” is “unbelievable.”

She also attacked President Barack Obama for speaking out against sexual assaults in the U.S. military, saying, “That same [Memorial Day] weekend, he talked about military rape. What a smack in the face of the men and the women have served us with dignity and gave the ultimate sacrifice. … I mean, it’s the way they prioritize these things. It’s unbelievable.”

The Pentagon estimates that 26,000 cases of sexual assault occurred in the military in 2012 alone, but apparently, tens of thousands of sexual assaults are nothing to be outraged about. What Tantaros thinks should inspire outrage is if we TALK about sexual assaults or attempt to DO SOMETHING about stopping them!!

Ann Coulter is just as bad, claiming that “there is no campus rape problem” and that unless a victim gets “hit on the head with a brick,” it isn’t a legitimate rape.

And then we have the current leader of the Republican Party on tape, bragging about how he can sexually assault women and get away with it, because he’s rich and famous. If he meets an attractive woman who’s married and not willing to have sex with him, that’s no problem. According to Donald Trump, he can just grab them by their genitals. There’s no guilt and no consequences. Trump indicates that he perpetrates sexual assaults like this all the time.

Defending rapists and maligning the victims of rape seems to be standard operating procedure for the Republican Party these days.


When Democrats bring justice to Virginia then you can preach.
 
We seem to have reached the point where you cannot have a leadership post in the Republican Party unless you are pro-rape and anti-women's rights.



That's about as ignorant a statement that can be made by someone with a brain. I remember JFK having a little fun in office. His brother Robert dabbled in office. Ted actually killed his girlfriend. Bill Clinton and his buddy Harvey sure had their fun with women. Bill been accused of rape so many times Hillary even gave up counting. Bill took about 26 plane rides on the Lolita Express, I'm sure all of that was above board. Bill likes them young, Monica was just barely 22 at the time. Yah! republicans are pro rape.
 
Rick Santorum: “I think the right approach is to accept this horribly created — in the sense of rape — but nevertheless a gift in a very broken way, the gift of human life, and accept what God has given to you.” 1/20/2012

Todd Akin: “If it’s a legitimate rape, the female body has ways to try to shut that whole thing down.” 8/19/2012
 
Rick Santorum: “I think the right approach is to accept this horribly created — in the sense of rape — but nevertheless a gift in a very broken way, the gift of human life, and accept what God has given to you.” 1/20/2012

Todd Akin: “If it’s a legitimate rape, the female body has ways to try to shut that whole thing down.” 8/19/2012



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Does anybody know of a GOP member of Congress who operated a prostitution ring from his apartment? Barney Frank, a Dem. is the only one I know of who did that.
 
And, to reiterate, there are probably as many Dems who commit rape and other sex crimes as there are Reps. I don't know how we can prove that one way or another, but sex crimes are not a partisan political act.

If that were true, we'd probably see it reflected in the news, and we don't.

But more to the point, I don't see the progressives in this room smearing the victims the way I see Dumpington and his bots smearing Dr. Ford. Not even close. (And before anyone says it, if any hard evidence is ever uncovered that Bill Clinton raped anyone, I'd be more than happy to see him go to prison for it.)
 
If that were true, we'd probably see it reflected in the news, and we don't.

But more to the point, I don't see the progressives in this room smearing the victims the way I see Dumpington and his bots smearing Dr. Ford. Not even close. (And before anyone says it, if any hard evidence is ever uncovered that Bill Clinton raped anyone, I'd be more than happy to see him go to prison for it.)

Actually, we do. Here is a long list of persons involved in politics and accused and/or convicted of sex crimes. The list includes members of both major parties because, as I say, this kind of thing is bipartisan. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_federal_political_sex_scandals_in_the_United_States#2010–2019

As for Dr. Ford, she made totally unsubstantiated accusations of attempted rape. Since the allegations were so lacking in details, it was impossible to prove them false, so they were believed by you and others.
 
Does anybody know of a GOP member of Congress who operated a prostitution ring from his apartment? Barney Frank, a Dem. is the only one I know of who did that.

Don't let actual facts get in the way of keeping you from spreading a long debunked smear job. :rolleyes:

Amid calls for an investigation, Frank asked the House Ethics Committee to investigate his relationship "in order to ensure that the public record is clear."

The Committee found no evidence that Frank had known of or been involved in the alleged illegal activity and dismissed all Gobie's more scandalous claims. They did recommend a reprimand for Frank using his congressional office to fix 33 of Gobie's parking tickets and for misstatements of fact in a memorandum relating to Gobie's criminal probation record.

Interestingly enough, the attempts to censure and expel Frank were led by none other than Republican Congressman and future Senator Larry "Wide Stance" Craig.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barney_Frank#Scandal

So basically, Barney got busted for the ultimate sin of fixing some parking tickets, while the guy leading the charge to get him tossed out of Congress would end up losing his Senate seat for trying to get some action from an undercover cop in an airport bathroom.

Kind of reminds you of Newt Gingrich clutching his pearls for the TV cameras over Bill Clinton's blowjob, while HE was screwing around on wife #2 (that he had screwed around with while married to wife #1) and would end up ditching her for mistress-wife #3 who just happened to be <surprise-surprise> a two-decade-younger staffer of his.

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Trump's first inclination is always to blame everything on the media. It's his way of telegraphing to his cult followers that, despite the facts and the evidence, what they are hearing is not to be believed. Trump's assertion that Kavanaugh is "an innocent man who has been treated HORRIBLY," has no basis in reality. And it's absurd to suggest that he has been treated worse than his victims.

However, Trump goes completely off the ledge when he offers his advice that Kavanaugh should sue the press and his accusers for libel. Trump has often threatened to sue his own accusers, but always chickens out. During the 2016 campaign he swore that "All of these liars will be sued after the election is over." Those lawsuits never came to pass. His lawyers surely told him that truth is a defense against libel, and the proceedings would subject him to discovery, wherein he would have to provide all relevant documents and evidence in his possession. There is no way he would do that.

Even worse, Trump said that "the Justice Department should come to [Kavanaugh's] rescue." This is further proof that Trump believes the Justice Department serves as his personal attorney, and can serve the same function for Kavanaugh. Clearly Trump has no idea how government works. But, unfortunately, he does have an Attorney General, William Barr, who doesn't care how government works and is willing to violate the Constitution on behalf of a criminal president.

Trump's glaring ignorance is apparent throughout these tweets. He obviously doesn't know what "recrimination" means. Just retaliating against the women in these matters by calling them "liars" is recriminatory. And they have also been disparaged as drunks and sluts. Trump's complaint that his critics are trying to "scare [Kavanaugh] into turning Liberal," and to "influence his opinions," makes no sense whatsoever. How would holding Kavanaugh accountable for his past behavior - and more recent lies - cause him to rule more favorably for the people causing him so much trouble? If anything, it would have the opposite effect.

Let's be clear. The only reason Trump is even bothering to make a stink about this is that he's afraid for his own fate. He even said as much in another tweet where he asked if it "sounds familiar" that Kavanaugh's criticisms were based "on threats of Impeaching him over made up stories."

Trump regards this as an attack against him. He doesn't care about Kavanaugh or the Supreme Court, and certainly not the law. He sees this as criticism of his choice for the nomination and his own sex crimes. And anything that reflects negatively on him must be attacked with the full force of his viciousness and dishonesty. That's how the diseased minds of malignant narcissists work. And Trump is, once again, providing a textbook example of this. Sadly, it's also an example of why no one with these hostile and destructive psychoses should ever serve as president.


https://www.dailykos.com/stories/20...-is-Legally-Incomprehensible?detail=emaildkre
 
We now have two sexual predators on the Supreme Court. Lucky us. And how both Republican and Trumpian that is.
 
Why has nobody mentioned Bill Cosby, the prominent Dem. donor?

Because he's in prison while Mr. I-Like-Beer is on the Supreme Court? Because the Democrats aren't trashing Cosby's accusers? Because Obama isn't telling anyone who'll listen that Cosby is innocent like Trump is doing with Kavanaugh? Geez, Box, even for you...
 
Because he's in prison while Mr. I-Like-Beer is on the Supreme Court?

Because of a little thing called evidence.......ever herd of it???


Based on your belief that mere accusations alone are absolute proof of guilt I'm guessing not.
 
Don't let actual facts get in the way of keeping you from spreading a long debunked smear job. :rolleyes:

Amid calls for an investigation, Frank asked the House Ethics Committee to investigate his relationship "in order to ensure that the public record is clear."

The Committee found no evidence that Frank had known of or been involved in the alleged illegal activity and dismissed all Gobie's more scandalous claims. They did recommend a reprimand for Frank using his congressional office to fix 33 of Gobie's parking tickets and for misstatements of fact in a memorandum relating to Gobie's criminal probation record.

Interestingly enough, the attempts to censure and expel Frank were led by none other than Republican Congressman and future Senator Larry "Wide Stance" Craig.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barney_Frank#Scandal

So basically, Barney got busted for the ultimate sin of fixing some parking tickets, while the guy leading the charge to get him tossed out of Congress would end up losing his Senate seat for trying to get some action from an undercover cop in an airport bathroom.

Kind of reminds you of Newt Gingrich clutching his pearls for the TV cameras over Bill Clinton's blowjob, while HE was screwing around on wife #2 (that he had screwed around with while married to wife #1) and would end up ditching her for mistress-wife #3 who just happened to be <surprise-surprise> a two-decade-younger staffer of his.

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Box doesn't have brain cells that let him think in terms of facts.
 
"The Party of Rapists and Sexual Predators" < hahhahaha Maybe just a little over-the-top? But I guess if you believe President Trump called all Mexican immigrants "rapists"; you'll believe anything.
 
We seem to have reached the point where you cannot have a leadership post in the Republican Party unless you are pro-rape and anti-women's rights.



You profess to be an intelligent woman but your statement is not well thought out. A great majority of republican men have wives, daughters, mothers. Being one myself I find your statement extremely callous. There are both dems and repubs that are disrespectful towards women and there's no room for either.
 
Because of a little thing called evidence.......ever herd of it???


Based on your belief that mere accusations alone are absolute proof of guilt I'm guessing not.



God! Great narratives and no substance. No facts, just accusations! The left's MO, publish a false statement, let it sit for 24 hours then when the damage is done do a half ass retraction. Then your guilty by association forever. You become toxic.

Or your guilty till you prove yourself to be innocent.
 
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