The Obamagood Thread

[L1tTleD1fferent]

well, you support the obama therefore you are a zealous idiot

You are the idiot.

Obama has not tried, but successfully improved the country. Every time I see a Trump ad, I realize the full slogan is "Make America Great Again after I mess it up."

 

[IrezumiKiss]

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Obama to Louisiana: 'You are not alone on this'

By NICK GASS 08/23/16 02:26 PM EDT Updated 08/23/16 02:34 PM EDT

The people of flood-ravaged Louisiana will not be forgotten by the rest of the United States in the wake of the country's worst natural disaster since Hurricane Sandy, President Barack Obama said Tuesday while touring the stricken area.

"I come here first and foremost to say that the prayers of the entire nation are with everybody who lost loved ones. We are heartbroken by the loss of life. There are also people who are still desperately trying to track down friends and family. We're going to keep on helping them every way that we can. As I think anybody who can see just the streets, much less the inside of the homes here, people's lives have been upended by this flood," Obama said during brief remarks in East Baton Rouge Parish.

While acknowledging that such disaster "can seem a little bit too much to bear," Obama added, "but what I want the people of Louisiana to know is that you are not alone on this."

"Even after the TV cameras leave, the whole country is going to continue to support you and help you until we get folks back in their homes and lives are rebuilt. And the reason I can say that with confidence is because that's what Americans do in times like this," Obama said, recalling his experience as a senator after Hurricane Katrina in 2005 and visiting New Orleans for the storm's 10th anniversary last year.

"I know how resilient the people of Louisiana are, and I know that you will rebuild again. What I've seen today proves it," the president continued, thanking first responders, the National Guard and elected officials, who flanked him at the outdoor lectern as he toured the damage.

Federal assistance, Obama cautioned, "is not going to be enough to make people's lives whole again. So I am asking every American to do what you can to help get families and local businesses back on their feet."

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/08/obama-louisiana-flooding-response-227323

 

[L1tTleD1fferent]

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/08/obama-louisiana-flooding-response-227323

Thanks, but pass... I overall like Obama (voted for him both times) & what he's done (that I can recall) in his time (would vote for him or Sanders if either were option this Fall).... Only one who doesn't on this board is too stupid to read or write well.

 

[IrezumiKiss]

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New Rule From Obama Will Punish Contractors Who Cheat Or Endanger Workers

With its time in the White House winding down, the Obama administration plans to add yet another executive order to its list on Wednesday ― one that will bar companies from receiving federal contracts if they recently violated labor laws.

Known as the Fair Pay and Safe Workplaces executive order, the new regulation is meant to reward good actors and punish bad ones, encouraging employers to take the high road if they want government money. It’s part of the White House’s broader strategy, pushed by labor groups, to use federal contracting power in order to improve workplaces in the broader economy.

“This rule affirms the notion that contracting with the federal government is a privilege, not an entitlement,” said Labor Secretary Tom Perez, whose agency was tasked with developing the rule. “The contractors who are doing the right thing should not have to compete for contracts with those who don’t.”

The rule has been in the works since 2014 and has just now been finalized. On a call with reporters, administration officials said different provisions of the rule will gradually be phased in, in order to give contractors time to adjust. They also said that they took feedback from contractors into account before crafting the final rule.

That will probably be little consolation to business groups, who vehemently opposed the regulation and lobbied to have it watered down or spiked. Along with Republicans in Congress, they have dubbed it the “blacklisting rule,” claiming it would add more red tape and unfairly prevent firms from securing federal contracts.

Under the rule, companies that want to bid on contracts will have to disclose to the government whether they ran afoul of laws covering workplace safety, workplace discrimination, labor organizing rights, or minimum wage and overtime during the previous three years. The necessary disclosures would include an official finding by a federal agency, a judgment from a court or an award from an arbitrator.

Juanita Allen, who works inside a Pentagon cafeteria, said companies that skirt the law shouldn’t be eligible for federal contracts. She said she had been interviewed as part of a Labor Department investigation into whether her contractor had illegally underpaid her. The agency confirmed the investigation but would not comment further.

“They shouldn’t be able to get [contracts],” Allen, 33, said of companies that break the law.

Officials noted that the new regulations cover only “the most egregious” violations. For instance, if an employer had been cited by the Occupational Safety and Health Administration, it would have to disclose a violation deemed “serious” or “willful,” but not the more common, run-of-the-mill violations that tend to pop up through inspections. The administration estimates that less than 10 percent of contractors will run into problems because of the provisions.

“Our primary goal is to do what’s best for taxpayers,” said Cecilia Muñoz, director of the White House’s council on domestic policy. “Businesses that do the right thing are being underbid by companies that skirt the law.”

Companies that benefit from taxpayer money have long been held to a higher standard than other private-sector actors ― or at least, they are supposed to be. There is a long history of presidents using contracting power to raise workplace standards, stretching back to when Franklin Delano Roosevelt outlawed racial discrimination among defense contractors.

The current president has used the tactic often ― from instituting a $10.10 minimum wage among contractors to requiring that contractors provide employees with basic paid sick leave, among other moves. Those reforms came at the behest of labor unions and low-wage workers, and the latest regulation is no different. One of the most prominent backers of the new rule is the Change to Win labor federation, which includes the Service Employees International Union, the driver behind the Fight for $15 campaign.

The president’s previous rules impacted federal contract workers most directly. But the new disclosure rule could benefit workers throughout a particular company that seeks federal contracts, said Mary Kay Henry, SEIU’s president.

“Companies are incentivized to play by the rules thanks to the way this is written,” Henry said.

According to Congress, companies that have broken labor laws have continued to secure government contracts for years. Senate Democrats issued a report in 2013 showing that 49 contractors with serious labor violations enjoyed $81 billion in federal contracts in 2012 alone. “Almost 30 percent of companies receiving the highest penalties for violations of federal labor law are also federal contractors,” the report found.

OSHA violations, in particular, tend to come with meager fines, which critics say leaves employers with little incentive to improve safety. Perez said he hopes the new rule gives contractors more motivation to make sure workplaces are safe and workers are always paid what they’re owed.

“I don’t think our existing laws provide a sufficient, credible deterrent,” he said.

Republicans may well try to block the rule ― or portions of it ― from going into effect through the appropriations process, though Democrats likely would not go along with that. They could also try to invoke a rarely successful maneuver through the Congressional Review Act in the hopes of blocking it.

Rep. Bobby Scott (D-Va.), ranking Democrat on the House committee overseeing labor issues, said he thought the final rule was modest enough that it wouldn’t draw objections.

“I think it’s a reasonable order,” Scott said. “It’s hard to know what the other side of the argument would be.”

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/obama-fair-pay-executive-order_us_57bcab71e4b00d9c3a1a80da?section=politics

 

[BotanyBoy]

1. Liquor licences are at the county level. You can literally go to a meeting in your county and petition for a license.

And unless you live a remote low population county where there is no reason to set up shop you will be told to go buy one of the limited ones issued from someone who has one for an absurd amount of money.

You have to be rich to play....it's the neoLib way.

2. We've been over this and that proposition got voted down.

AB266/MMSRA was signed into law by Gov. Brown 9OCT2015 and goes into effect JAN2018.

https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billNavClient.xhtml?bill_id=201520160AB266

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3. You can apply for a composting license online. I could find no reference to "only 8". According to one person who's got a clue there are currently 130+ large commercial facilities for composting.

You can apply all you want, you'll just get a letter in the mail that says no.

Yep and those facilities either operate under or are directly owned by a hand full elites who make millions and millions a year selling shit. All in the name of environmental control!! Can't have just anybody out there doing that dangerous shit. Only rich senators friends can be trusted, it's for your safety!!

4. Again nothing only there being only 6. If you want to sell fish or have some sort of aquaculture facility you can apply for a license online. Again this is just for commercial stuff.

I didn't say aquaculture, I said aquaponics, they are not the same thing. There are only 6 and they are in 3 counties down south because they are scared an invasive fish that's already in California waters might get loose again.

It's retarded and it's because that regulation is there to protect 6 rich big farmers.

Just like you can't get a water permit in certain areas of the state unless your name is ConAgra or one of the other uber ag corps. You can apply all day but California will just laugh at you.

Why do you just pull stuff out of your ass? Is it because I've ruined it so many times that things just fall out?

You're obsession with my anus continues.

 

[NeverEndingMe]

You are the idiot.

Obama has not tried, but successfully improved the country. Every time I see a Trump ad, I realize the full slogan is "Make America Great Again after I mess it up."

wow, you are retarded

 

[NeverEndingMe]

Thanks, but pass... I overall like Obama (voted for him both times) & what he's done (that I can recall) in his time (would vote for him or Sanders if either were option this Fall).... Only one who doesn't on this board is too stupid to read or write well.

of course you voted for him both times, pumpkin. you are the welfare class

 

[NeverEndingMe]

thanks dude, but intelligent people know that the obama is an idiot.

this is what you get, when someone has no real world experience ... has never had a real job, and has too many 'yes' people. but hey, at least that obama has a clean colon cavity. I just wonder how many heads it aka obama can fit up there?

thank god, hillary and those like her have shoulders

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New Rule From Obama Will Punish Contractors Who Cheat Or Endanger Workers

With its time in the White House winding down, the Obama administration plans to add yet another executive order to its list on Wednesday ― one that will bar companies from receiving federal contracts if they recently violated labor laws.

Known as the Fair Pay and Safe Workplaces executive order, the new regulation is meant to reward good actors and punish bad ones, encouraging employers to take the high road if they want government money. It’s part of the White House’s broader strategy, pushed by labor groups, to use federal contracting power in order to improve workplaces in the broader economy.

“This rule affirms the notion that contracting with the federal government is a privilege, not an entitlement,” said Labor Secretary Tom Perez, whose agency was tasked with developing the rule. “The contractors who are doing the right thing should not have to compete for contracts with those who don’t.”

The rule has been in the works since 2014 and has just now been finalized. On a call with reporters, administration officials said different provisions of the rule will gradually be phased in, in order to give contractors time to adjust. They also said that they took feedback from contractors into account before crafting the final rule.

That will probably be little consolation to business groups, who vehemently opposed the regulation and lobbied to have it watered down or spiked. Along with Republicans in Congress, they have dubbed it the “blacklisting rule,” claiming it would add more red tape and unfairly prevent firms from securing federal contracts.

Under the rule, companies that want to bid on contracts will have to disclose to the government whether they ran afoul of laws covering workplace safety, workplace discrimination, labor organizing rights, or minimum wage and overtime during the previous three years. The necessary disclosures would include an official finding by a federal agency, a judgment from a court or an award from an arbitrator.

Juanita Allen, who works inside a Pentagon cafeteria, said companies that skirt the law shouldn’t be eligible for federal contracts. She said she had been interviewed as part of a Labor Department investigation into whether her contractor had illegally underpaid her. The agency confirmed the investigation but would not comment further.

“They shouldn’t be able to get [contracts],” Allen, 33, said of companies that break the law.

Officials noted that the new regulations cover only “the most egregious” violations. For instance, if an employer had been cited by the Occupational Safety and Health Administration, it would have to disclose a violation deemed “serious” or “willful,” but not the more common, run-of-the-mill violations that tend to pop up through inspections. The administration estimates that less than 10 percent of contractors will run into problems because of the provisions.

“Our primary goal is to do what’s best for taxpayers,” said Cecilia Muñoz, director of the White House’s council on domestic policy. “Businesses that do the right thing are being underbid by companies that skirt the law.”

Companies that benefit from taxpayer money have long been held to a higher standard than other private-sector actors ― or at least, they are supposed to be. There is a long history of presidents using contracting power to raise workplace standards, stretching back to when Franklin Delano Roosevelt outlawed racial discrimination among defense contractors.

The current president has used the tactic often ― from instituting a $10.10 minimum wage among contractors to requiring that contractors provide employees with basic paid sick leave, among other moves. Those reforms came at the behest of labor unions and low-wage workers, and the latest regulation is no different. One of the most prominent backers of the new rule is the Change to Win labor federation, which includes the Service Employees International Union, the driver behind the Fight for $15 campaign.

The president’s previous rules impacted federal contract workers most directly. But the new disclosure rule could benefit workers throughout a particular company that seeks federal contracts, said Mary Kay Henry, SEIU’s president.

“Companies are incentivized to play by the rules thanks to the way this is written,” Henry said.

According to Congress, companies that have broken labor laws have continued to secure government contracts for years. Senate Democrats issued a report in 2013 showing that 49 contractors with serious labor violations enjoyed $81 billion in federal contracts in 2012 alone. “Almost 30 percent of companies receiving the highest penalties for violations of federal labor law are also federal contractors,” the report found.

OSHA violations, in particular, tend to come with meager fines, which critics say leaves employers with little incentive to improve safety. Perez said he hopes the new rule gives contractors more motivation to make sure workplaces are safe and workers are always paid what they’re owed.

“I don’t think our existing laws provide a sufficient, credible deterrent,” he said.

Republicans may well try to block the rule ― or portions of it ― from going into effect through the appropriations process, though Democrats likely would not go along with that. They could also try to invoke a rarely successful maneuver through the Congressional Review Act in the hopes of blocking it.

Rep. Bobby Scott (D-Va.), ranking Democrat on the House committee overseeing labor issues, said he thought the final rule was modest enough that it wouldn’t draw objections.

“I think it’s a reasonable order,” Scott said. “It’s hard to know what the other side of the argument would be.”

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/obama-fair-pay-executive-order_us_57bcab71e4b00d9c3a1a80da?section=politics

 

[dan_c00000]

AB266/MMSRA was signed into law by Gov. Brown 9OCT2015 and goes into effect JAN2018.

Did you actually read the bill? Again it says nothing about limiting sales or restrictions to just a few companies.

I'm not going to go through this all and read it to you. You can have your mom do that. But here's the gist of the law.

All of your other claims are bullshit -and since you clearly didn't read my post- I'm not going to re-own you on those because it's too easy.

You're getting destroyed bot I might want to think about rage quitting if I were you.

 

[richmondman]

thanks dude, but intelligent people know that the obama is an idiot.

Which intelligent people think Obama is an idiot? I haven't heard that before. Now, on the job front, he practiced law for about 11 years and was a lecturer at Univ of Chicago Law School. He has degrees from Columbia and Harvard Law School, and being on the law review there is considered a pretty darn high achievement.

 

[NeverEndingMe]

Which intelligent people think Obama is an idiot? I haven't heard that before. Now, on the job front, he practiced law for about 11 years and was a lecturer at Univ of Chicago Law School. He has degrees from Columbia and Harvard Law School, and being on the law review there is considered a pretty darn high achievement.

Was he ever responsible for making payroll? no

obama is struggling with congress ... why? ... because obama is a shit. and a shitty leader.

lecturer - big fucking deal. just means that he couldn't cut it in the real world and had to hide in the class room

obama is no Bill Gates, Steve Jobs ... the obama needs to steal other people's money as its unable to make it's own!

 

[BotanyBoy]

Did you actually read the bill? Again it says nothing about limiting sales or restrictions to just a few companies.

Yep.

It doesn't have to, the bureaucracy has it handled. The control board is only issuing 2 licences for distribution/transport in the north/south state, the excuse is for a tax choke point.

Reality is it gives 2 billionaires (the same two that have been running booze distribution for the state) near absolute control over the industry with regard to pricing.

Add to that farmers are only allowed 2500-5000 sq ft. of canopy and dispensaries get 4 acres of canopy and the farmers are all fucked.

By the time it's all said and done there will be 200-300 dispensary owners and 2 distributors that own 95%+ of a 40B/yr industry. It is not the only industry structured in this manner. This is why the top 5% are who they are, the government sets them up legally and protects them. The 2 richest guys that are getting to control distribution? They wouldn't even exist if Democrats in Sacramento hadn't willed that licence into existance....that's your 1% right there, ordained billionaires who would otherwise not even have a business if it weren't for a senate committee handing them the industry on a platter.

I'm not going to go through this all and read it to you. You can have your mom do that. But here's the gist of the law.

Actually I had my high dollar lawyers tell me all about it and they all say you're full of shit soooooooo I'll be listening to the professionals who helped write the laws vs. the moron on Lit. Thanks for playing though!!

All of your other claims are bullshit

Look I know you want to think that because California is the (D) laboratory it's some magical utopian paradise but it's not, it's rife with corruption and home boy hookups in Sacramento.

That's why despite being the richest state in the union the poverty rates, unemployment rates and our wealth inequality are all higher than the national average. Because all that talking they do about progressive bullshit? Is just that....bullshit.

 

[BettyPoop]

Yep.

It doesn't have to, the bureaucracy has it handled. The control board is only issuing 2 licences for distribution/transport in the north/south state, the excuse is for a tax choke point.

Reality is it gives 2 billionaires (the same two that have been running booze distribution for the state) near absolute control over the industry with regard to pricing.

Add to that farmers are only allowed 2500-5000 sq ft. of canopy and dispensaries get 4 acres of canopy and the farmers are all fucked.

By the time it's all said and done there will be 200-300 dispensary owners and 2 distributors that own 95%+ of a 40B/yr industry. It is not the only industry structured in this manner. This is why the top 5% are who they are, the government sets them up legally and protects them. The 2 richest guys that are getting to control distribution? They wouldn't even exist if Democrats in Sacramento hadn't willed that licence into existance....that's your 1% right there, ordained billionaires who would otherwise not even have a business if it weren't for a senate committee handing them the industry on a platter.



Actually I had my high dollar lawyers tell me all about it and they all say you're full of shit soooooooo I'll be listening to the professionals who helped write the laws vs. the moron on Lit. Thanks for playing though!!



Look I know you want to think that because California is the (D) laboratory it's some magical utopian paradise but it's not, it's rife with corruption and home boy hookups in Sacramento.

That's why despite being the richest state in the union the poverty rates, unemployment rates and our wealth inequality are all higher than the national average. Because all that talking they do about progressive bullshit? Is just that....bullshit.

Whine, whine, whine...

 

[NeverEndingMe]

Whine, whine, whine...

pretty early to be hitting the bottle, but I guess its what your kind does. After all, what else do you have to do, right.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Whine, whine, whine...

At least you're honest about your loathing of the working class....most NeoLibs actually think that oppressing people helps them.

 

[dan_c00000]

Actually I had my high dollar lawyers tell me all about it and they all say you're full of shit soooooooo I'll be listening to the professionals who helped write the laws vs. the moron on Lit.

Only you could have "high priced lawyers" tell you bullshit information. Here's someone who was actually on the panel telling you and your fake lawyers they're full of shit.

That was massive asshole destruction one. Massive asshole destruction is another lie I'd love to see you prove: show us the bill your lawyers gave you for their hours. Until we all see that bill you're both a lair and a coward.

Massive asshole destruction number three you can grow your own pot, up to 100 feet of canopy. Using this sample formula that works out to 20 pounds of pot per year.

And, finally, massive asshole destruction number four is all own you: you got shit legal advice. Sorry bro!

 

[BotanyBoy]

Only you could have "high priced lawyers" tell you bullshit information. Here's someone who was actually on the panel telling you and your fake lawyers they're full of shit.

Doesn't change the fact that it was changed in early 2016 to heavily favor dispensaries or that the bureaucracy side decided 2 mega corps should be in charge of distribution.

My lawyers are up to date, you're still in 2015....catch up.

Until we all see that bill you're both a lair and a coward.

Call me what you want but I don't post any of my billing online.

Massive asshole destruction number three you can grow your own pot, up to 100 feet of canopy. Using this sample formula that works out to 20 pounds of pot per year.

That's not even related to the MMJ industry and how CA decided to structure it.

And I'm actually allowed 400 sq feet of canopy and 20lbs out of 100 feet/year is fucking pathetic. They must be trying to spare the feelings of shit growers.

And, finally, massive asshole destruction number four is all own you: you got shit legal advice. Sorry bro!

Based upon what? You total lack of knowledge on the subject? You didn't even know it had been passed .....stay in your lane dan

 

[dan_c00000]

Call me what you want but I don't post any of my billing online.

So you refuse to offer proof? What a shock. You just got destroyed and you can't even offer proof in your own defense.

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[BotanyBoy]

So you refuse to offer proof? What a shock. You just got destroyed and you can't even offer proof in your own defense.

https://cdn.meme.am/instances/500x/24036513.jpg

You didn't own anything by making absurd requests.

Tell us all again how AB266 didn't get passed into law......

2. We've been over this and that proposition got voted down.

You're the only one who has been demonstrably proven wrong repeatedly Dan....stop before you hurt yourself more.

 

[L1tTleD1fferent]

thanks dude, but intelligent people know that the obama is an idiot.

You have that correct in reverse... Only idiots don't get Obama is an intelligent person, & sadly guaranteed to be more so (& more successful positively as President) than whichever succeeds him.

Also, BB, NEM has been demonstrably proven wrong repeatedly.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Also, BB, NEM has been demonstrably proven wrong repeatedly.

It's true.....you're right.

But in my defense NEM wasn't a part of the Dan_Hysteria getting destroyed by B2B4Lyfe which was the sub thread within the thread that I was talking about when I said that to HystericalDan.

 

[IrezumiKiss]

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[L1tTleD1fferent]

It's true.....you're right.

But in my defense NEM wasn't a part of the Dan_Hysteria getting destroyed by B2B4Lyfe which was the sub thread within the thread that I was talking about when I said that to HystericalDan.

That is no defense... That is admission of yet another mistake on your part not making that clear when you made your incorrect claim.

 

[BotanyBoy]

That is no defense...That is admission of yet another mistake on your part not making that clear when you made your incorrect claim.

Bullshit, I was talking to him directly as made evident by the quotes and in the context of our conversation which was obviously not part of the main thread my statement is correct.

You deciding to butt in and pull my words out of that conversation and place them in the context of a separate conversation doesn't make them incorrect. It makes you a troll with shitty reading comprehension.

 

[L1tTleD1fferent]

Bullshit, I was talking to him directly as made evident by the quotes and in the context of our conversation which was obviously not part of the main thread my statement is correct.

You deciding to butt in and pull my words out of that conversation and place them in the context of a separate conversation doesn't make them incorrect. It makes you a troll with shitty reading comprehension.

You saying something was evident to you doesn't make it so to those of us with more active, more-powerful brains.

Also, I was not butting in, as this is a public discussion board. Lastly, what makes your use of someone else's a "quote" & mine "pulling words out of a conversation"?! In your head, your decisions, but in truth, nothing! They are equal, as is your horrid reading comprehension, writing ability, & social interaction skills!