The now fully official Author’s Hangout Halloween 2025 competition support thread

My problem with this is that the competition is already skewed to writers with more followers, and if these authors already have higher scores when the competition truly starts (when the list of all stories is listed on the home page- most readers won't know until then), then readers will decide not to bother voting for the stories with lower scores and less followers. Kind of removes the point of it all IMO and a serious mistake if Laurel wants as level a playing field as she can get. Just saying, and I know I'm not going to win, I'm competing to get a little more exposure
Have a read of National Nude Daisy, which won the Nude Day Comp this year despite being only the author’s second published story on the site (under that name, anyway). The story is hugely assured, competent and engaging, and was scoring 4.92 at time of the win. Number of followers is not a barrier.
 
The Nude Day competition is the only one I followed closely (the only one I have entered). None of the three prize winners were big name established writers on the site. I had less than 100 followers and had been writing for only a few months. I'm not sure how many followers @Actingup had at the time, but he had fewer than 20 stories total (although some truly excellent ones, unlike me).

My comment to someone earlier today is that there will be a pool of solid stories that will separate out quickly. Almost all of the big name writers will be in that pool -- they all know what they are doing and write consistently good stories. Within that pool, it felt pretty random to me, depending on whose story connected.
 
The Nude Day competition is the only one I followed closely (the only one I have entered). None of the three prize winners were big name established writers on the site. I had less than 100 followers and had been writing for only a few months. I'm not sure how many followers @Actingup had at the time, but he had fewer than 20 stories total (although some truly excellent ones, unlike me).

My comment to someone earlier today is that there will be a pool of solid stories that will separate out quickly. Almost all of the big name writers will be in that pool -- they all know what they are doing and write consistently good stories. Within that pool, it felt pretty random to me, depending on whose story connected.
And new writers have had less time to accumulate haters. Lack of haters, as opposed to prevalence of lovers, tends to win comps as low votes have such a disproportionate effect. And no, the sweeps are far from comprehensive.

As I’ve said before, the best advice for wining a comp is, “Try to avoid being hated.”
 
It might be more challenging, but I wonder if you've considered like an alt-fantasy setting that could rhyme with Australian history and the themes that you're thinking about without directly using real cultures and peoples?
Thanks @PennyThompson. I think that this is the way to approach it if there’s a way to make it work. I’m a huge fan of Guy Gavriel Kay, who uses this approach in his alternative histories (for example for the brilliant Sailing to Sarantium, which got me inspired to read up on Byzantium years ago). The issues that I’m struggling with here are that we’ve tied the Mothman story to a particular place (which I don’t regret), and that the issue of who speaks to that particular place is in dispute. I was less worried about those things in the Mothman story because we structured it around two white, ‘wokey’ young characters blundering way out of their depth, which to me at least felt quite authentic :).
My take would be write it - it's so obscure that no-one even knows about it and your story may well encourage people to do a bit more reading on the actual real history. Australian aboriginal history is quite fascinating - The oldest living continuous art tradition in the worldn amongst other things, dating all the way back to 65,000 years ago. It’s as if the culture that created the Altamira Cave paintings (35,000 BCE) and Lascaux Paintings (17,000 BCE – recent stuff, really) was still with us, alive and maintaining a continuous artistic tradition dating all the way back to the first humans in Australia and maybe even prior to that. When you look at Australian aboriginal culture, you’re looking at the oldest continuously existing culture in the world. A culture that makes ancient Sumer and Mohenjo-daro / Harappa look positively modern.

And hardly anyone knows anything about it. I'd say whatever you write is going to be a plus so do it!!!!! Please. Even if its just for me LOL.

I actually have something a little but related where I was diving into Australian aborginal history - “Dead Heart: On the Trail of Thylarctos Plummetus” - a monster hunting story of course, set in Australia, and the team ends up in the Northern Territory taking on a monster crocodile from the Dreamtime (Dungalaba - it's from, I think, the Larrakia people in Djarrtjuntjun, I'd have to look up all my notes but I was going thru what little I could find on their culture and myths to use in the story).

Anyhow, most people don't read obscure history, and by including something like you're doing, you're spreading the awareness, probably far more so than some obscure history text is EVER going to do.

Like, if I didn't mention Albert Namatjira's art here, who here would even have heard of the guy.

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And thank you, @ChloeTzang. I do think that there’s a lot of merit in this argument too, although of course lots of art lovers (particularly Australians) know about Namatjira and also contemporary Aboriginal art. The closest that I’ve felt able to approach this in a story was to have a group of twenty-somethings visit a community art shop near Kakadu in my ‘Monsoon Coming’ (and personally I loved writing the scene).

I just haven’t been able to make it work for this story though. I haven’t quite given up, but at the moment I’m thinking that I won’t force it.

Thanks for the encouragement!
 
It’s not the readers you need to worry about.

Oh, now I get it. You are referring to trolls?

Unfortunately I wrote a story in back 2013 about a cheating wife who was way smarter than her husband and got everything she wanted, and then I went ahead and posted it in Loving Wives. Such an infraction carries a minimum sentence of 25 years before parole is even possible.

So I fear that your excellent advice came too late for me.
 
This is good advice for your whole life, not just contests and competitions.
It's good advice in principle, but in practice, it's impossible. If you are an honest individual with principles and stand up for what you believe in, not everybody will like you, and some may hate you. It goes with the territory, unless you are a hermit. I can't believe many start to write, hoping to be hated
 
It's good advice in principle, but in practice, it's impossible. If you are an honest individual with principles and stand up for what you believe in, not everybody will like you, and some may hate you. It goes with the territory, unless you are a hermit. I can't believe many start to write, hoping to be hated
Yeah, this ☝️☝️☝️☝️☝️ and yet here we are 🙄
 
If anyone's interested (and it's perfectly fine if you're not)... my draft story for the contest is titled "Aphrodite's Law." I'm going to wait a week or so before polishing it and aim to submit it about a week before the deadline.
 
Catch me if you can!
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A team of Bigfoot researchers from Alabama travel to Norway looking for the seductive forest spirit known as the Huldra! My story, “She Sure Ain’t No Squatch!”, pays homage to her sexy lore over spookiness, mixing the natural beauty of Norway with the fall tradition of “the hunt”.
 
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Just submitted my entry, a silly little horror about four friends in a haunted manor. This is the first time I'm submitting for a competition! :D
I'm not 100% happy with it, but better to be imperfectly finished rather than trapped in an infinite editing spiral.
 
Just submitted my entry, a silly little horror about four friends in a haunted manor. This is the first time I'm submitting for a competition! :D
I'm not 100% happy with it, but better to be imperfectly finished rather than trapped in an infinite editing spiral.
Best of luck with your story!
 
My story went live. I'm also getting over a flu or covid or whatever is running up and down the east coast of the US right now so my sleep schedj is messed up. I'm gonna see how many times it's possible to click "refresh" on the Lit Control Panel before I get an angry message from Manu.
 
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