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JKendallDane writes:
"What I would prefer is a GOP that embodies the ideals and methods of governing that made it the party of Lincoln, Teddy Roosevelt, and Eisenhower."
WHO in their right mind would embrace the party of George McGovern (who won only one-state), Walter Mondale (who won only one-state), Bill Clinton (who lied under oath about sexually harrassing women), or Barack "Rainbow Lights" Obama? - I mean, seriously?
Dumpington said:"Get real, Dump. Buchanan's speech was being compared to Mein Kampf within minutes of him finally slithering off the stage...by both Dems AND Repubs alike."
If you truly believe that Pat Buchanan is anything like Hitler then you know absolutely NOTHING about the real Adolf Hitler!
"Your deflections into how YOU want to paint everyone to the left of you are duly noted...and rejected."
I'm serious, Jay-Kendall - you display a clear IGNORANCE of Adolf Hitler and his Nazi Party when you compare him with Republican presidential candidates! A much more REALISTIC comparison you could make would be to compare a Planned Parenthood clinic with Auschwitz.
YDB95 writes: "Study after study has shown in a two-way race, Clinton still would have won."
In 1988, the Democratic Party's presidential candidate (Michael Dukakis) won 45.65% of the popular vote against George H.W. Bush and lost badly. Four years later, in 1992, the Democrat candidate (Bill Clinton) won only 43.01% of the popular vote, but he STILL won the presidency. HOW is this possible? Because in '92, 3rd-party candidate Ross Perot won 18.91% of the vote, most of it from Bush!
"Okay, this is genuinely enlightening. It's all about winning for you, isn't it, Dump? Don't know why I didn't see it before."
This isn't about me, YDB95 - it's about JKendallDane - he dislikes those Republicans won WIN presidential elections.
YDB95 writes: "Perot voters were about evenly split between Clinton, Bush and neither for their second choice."
Baloney! Ross Perot prevented a second Bush term. In '92 Bill Clinton couldn't even reach the same low percentage won by Michael Dukakis in '88!
JKendallDane dislikes those Republican presidential candidates who defeat Democrats - it's just that simple! And it's also why he hates President Trump!
"I'm still waiting for you to provide cites on anyone comparing them with Nazi concentration camps..."
When some deranged Trump-hater in the U.S. House of Representatives uses inflammatory words like "concentration camps," they're NOT trying to bring-up comparisons with camps run by the British in South Africa during the Boer War!
But yes, as you actually support deranged Trump-haters in congress I can see where you might prefer thinking that that's ALL that they're trying to do!
JKendallDane writes: "Interesting, Dump, that you not only went into full deflect mode there, but also totally ignored commenting on the list of Repubs that I have either voted for in the past or seriously considered voting for as President."
I don't believe that you have EVER voted Republican in your entire life, Jay-Kendall! You are as liberal as they come! You're pro-abortion, pro-atheist, pro-Islamic, pro-open-borders, pro-socialist, and you support transgendered guys competing in women's athletic competitions! There is NOTHING conservative about you! You won't even tell us which Democrat you want to see win the 2020 nomination because that would completely give-away your blatant (and dishonest) hypocrisy!
JKendallDane writes: "Interesting, Dump, that you not only went into full deflect mode there, but also totally ignored commenting on the list of Repubs that I have either voted for in the past or seriously considered voting for as President."
I don't believe that you have EVER voted Republican in your entire life, Jay-Kendall! You are as liberal as they come! (along with an extra heavy dose of the ever-expected unsupported mud-slinging you are so well known for, Dump.)
You're a liberal Democrat, Jay-Kendall - just admit it! You've NEVER been a Republican!
YDB95 writes: "And it's never even crossed your mind that maybe JKD dislikes those Republicans due to their politics?"
JDK stopped liking the G.O.P. when it stopped supporting abortion, open borders, the transgendered political agenda, Islam, and Al Gore's "An Inconvenient Truth" (which predicted that our planet will be underwater by 2016).
Dump said:JDK implies that he quit backing Republicans after Fremont was defeated in 1856.
Dump said:YDB said: "The only person here I've seen supporting "transgendered guys competing in women's athletic competitions" is you, Dump."
You sincerely believe that a guy who decides one day to begin calling himself a woman immediately becomes a woman, despite continuing to possess the size, speed, & strength of a guy. You & the entire politically-progressive wing of the Democratic Party now believe that!
Dump said:JKendallDane writes: "First week of April 1974, one way I celebrated my 18th birthday was by registering to vote. I checked the "R" box on the form."
You checked "R" for "RINO," Jay-Kendall - aligning yourself with guys like John McCain, Bob Corker, & Jeff Flake. It's really not the same thing.
Dump said:"So while my voter registration may say DEM on it, my choice of candidate for every office is always weighed by much more."
Yes, I know - today you vote for those candidates who are pro-socialist, pro-abortion, pro-transgendered, pro-atheist, pro-open-borders, and pro-Islamic. Back in 1856 none of that even registered, but today they'd combine to make you a mainstream DEMOCRAT!
Is it NORMAL for a guy to wake-up one morning and decide that he is, in fact, a woman?
That's extremely oversimplified, but not completely off base. My understanding is it's usually something people grapple with and ultimately accept, which isn't easy to do in this world because of people like you.
That's called misgendering, and it's just as disrespectful as the N-word.
OH...by the way, Dump...you still haven't told me who you just know I am supporting among the declared Democratic candidates for 2020. Come on, Carnac...tear open that envelope and tell everyone the answer.
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You ONLY seem to like those Republicans before 1989 who LOST elections, JKendall - if they won in landslides, you seemingly hate them, am I right?
So in WHICH presidential elections since 1856 have you actually supported the Republican candidate?
Dump said:"Even though the term "RINO" didn't even appear in print until December of 1992, that's what I was somehow declaring almost nineteen years earlier?"
You're saying that there were NO RINO'S before that word was invented in 1992?
YDB95 writes: "That's extremely oversimplified, but not completely off base. My understanding is it's usually something people grapple with and ultimately accept, which isn't easy to do in this world because of people like you."
Once again, I'm going to REPEAT my very simple question:
Is it NORMAL for a guy to wake-up one morning and decide that he is, in fact, a woman?
"But that's entirely beside the point JKD and I were making, which is that you consistently use the term "transgendered guys" when you clearly are really thinking of trans-women. That's called misgendering, and it's just as disrespectful as the N-word. Congratulations on joining that company, I guess."
My OWN answer is very simple: if a guy wakes up one morning and decides that he's a woman, and he then tries out for the girl's track team - and he makes it because he's STILL got the body of a man, then he's STILL a guy - a transgendered guy - with the size, speed, & strength of a guy!
JKendallDane writes: "I'm putting that one right up top and in bold because you keep seeming to miss it, Dump. You're not afraid to answer it are you?"
Who ARE you supporting for the Democratic Party's 2020 presidential nomination, Jay-Kendall? I have no idea!
Dump said:"Read it and comment or don't read it and STFU."
Do you ALWAYS argue politics by being insulting & abusive? And WHY so angry all the time?
Dump said:"Thanks for validating what GOP Congressman Joe Schwarz said."
Yeah... I have no idea what you're talking about - but I'm sure it's important!
Dump said:"It's obvious that neither one of you actually knows a transgendered person (probably in the same way you both were convinced you didn't know any gay people at one point in your lives) and most certainly do NOT have any real or even the most basic knowledge about gender dysphoria."
A guy who wakes up one morning believing that he is a girl is STILL a guy - possessing a man's size, speed, & strength - it's BIOLOGY! If Barack Obama wants to allow him to use the girls' locker room at school THAT DOESN'T CHANGE THE FACT THAT HE REMAINS A GUY! Perhaps you know some transgendered guys? Well, that doesn't change the facts any! If a guy possesses a man's body he's still a guy!
I get the feeling that your antagonist will support any candidate that supports baby killing.
Different elections, different numbers of votes; percentages are irrelevant. The record shows Perot drew equally from both major party candidates. At worst, he cost Bush two small states: Montana and New Hampshire. Clinton would still have won easily without either. https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-ross-perot-myth/
And it's never even crossed your mind that maybe JKD dislikes those Republicans due to their politics? Even after he said as much?
First of all, YOU (and BotanyBoy and others as well) are always arguing that everything Trump says should be taken at absolute face value (remember "It wasn't racist to tell the Squad to go back where they came from because he didn't mention their ethnicities?"). So by that standard, you have no right to assume AOC et al were talking about Nazi concentration camps when they didn't actually use that exact term.
As a matter of fact, I don't think that's all they're trying to do. All I'm getting at is that you have repeatedly made that accusation without ever backing it up. This time, someone else actually did your homework for you.
But all that aside, the comparison is valid. As I and others have spelled out for you before, the Nazis did not go straight to slaughtering Jews. They started out by whipping up public opinion against them, using dehumanising language, and yes, sending them to concentration camps that didn't yet have gas chambers. That's why a LOT of people are warning that what Trump is doing is a lot like what Hitler was up to in the early-mid 1930s. And shame on us all if we don't do what we can to put a stop to it.
The only person here I've seen supporting "transgendered guys competing in women's athletic competitions" is you, Dump. I'll tell you again, if you're going to be a bigot, at least get your slurs straight.
Trump's quote to the SQUAD!
"Why don't they go back and help fix the totally broken and crime infested places from which they came. Then come back and show us how it is done. These places need your help badly, you can't leave fast enough"
To conflate the original statement with racism is in itself racist. No mention of country, that was CNN and others producing a convoluted narrative to inject racism. The point of that quote was about showing the american people how it's done, refers much more to political and managerial expertise than ethnicity. See, you lefties have your own language, there are sentences between sentences that nobody but lefties can see or decipher. You derive meaning and interpretation from statements in ways that bolster your narrative whether it's true or not!
JKendallDane writes: "Sorry, but you made at least two such claims in posts to me in the last week or so. Plus, the additional fact that you've totally avoided answering the multiple times I've asked you to tell me, says you KNOW you posted that boast and are now looking for any way you can to keep from having to back it up."
I have NO IDEA what all of that's about, Jay-Kendall.
"I'm confused. Does that response mean you are picking the first option but sidestepping the entire gist of the post? Or the second one but just wanted to pretend you got in the last word? Or is it just a new deflection technique you're trying out?"
YOU'RE CONFUSED? Read what you just wrote above - what does it all mean?
"That validates one of three things, Dump. That you either speed scan posts just looking for the points you can cherry pick and attack with and completely ignore everything else...OR...your reading comprehension and short-term memory sucks since I quoted Schwarz just six posts previously...OR...you are just once again lying. Those are pretty much the only options."
I'm going to need an interpreter to explain to me what you've just now written.
Dump said:"Yes, I currently do, and have had, a number of transgendered guys as friends over the last 30+ years. Transgendered gals too."
Yes, and I'm sure that ALL of your many transgendered friends love & appreciate you, Jay-Kendall - because you will readily believe them when they change their genders, without question or comment. And when a white friend wakes up believing that he's black, you will believe that, as well!
Dump, seriously...it's okay if you don't understand. It's even okay if you don't WANT to understand. What is NOT okay is you bashing transgendered people and saying they MUST fit into one of the pigeonhole slots you fetishize about creating for everyone and then being irrationally outraged at any law or simple public policy that might protect anyone that isn't just like you.
1. Context matters, no matter how hard you try to ignore it. The phrase "go back where you came from" has been used by racists for a very, very, very long time. So even in the extremely unlikely event that Trump didn't mean it that way, it was easy to interpret as such.
What context? it was a direct quote. By your own definition the word COUNTRY is the predicate for insinuating racism or xenophobia, guess what? the word COUNTRY is not there. Journalist have no right to add or subtract words in a quote, when they do they lose all credibility, it also changes the meaning or intent of the author. That makes it yellow journalism
2. Three of the four are Americans by birth, and the fourth has lived in the US since she was a teenager and is now a US citizen. "The places from which they came" are the good old USA.
Again, the fact they are Americans, "back to where they came from" can only mean their hometowns or back to their constituents or areas they represent or influence. Country was never mentioned. Racism and xenophobia are a figment of your imagination.
3. Trump has no "managerial expertise" whatsoever. His track record shows the only thing he's any good at in business is stiffing his creditors. That's not something to be proud of, and it certainly doesn't reflect any leadership acumen on his part.
More deflection and innuendo, this isn't about his business savvy it's about the squad and their anti american rhetoric and affiliations.
4. Avoiding the mention of countries or ethnicity is EXACTLY how the Southern strategy works. And so is calling us racists when we call them on their bullshit. That you can't see that (or more likely just WON'T see it) is nothing more than a reflection of how effective that strategy still is half a century after it was first tried. And again, even if it wasn't intentional on Trump's part (hey, when he pleads ignorance, he's always got a believer in me!), it's a boy-who-cried-wolf situation. Why should we believe he didn't mean it that way when he was following in the footsteps of 50 years of Republicans who DID mean it that way?