The New College "Safe Spaces"

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So much for them being a Liberal thing. ;) (This is, of course, exactly what they wanted.)

Texas Campus Carry Law Putting Damper On Academic Debate

by Corky Siemaszko

A new Texas law allowing people to carry guns on state college campuses is already putting a big chill on fiery academic debate.

The law does not go into effect until Aug. 1, but professors at the University of Houston have started preparing guidelines for dealing with gun-toting students that include warning faculty to steer clear of "sensitive topics" and dropping hot button issues from their curricula, according to a UH Faculty Senate.

The proposed guidelines also advise faculty to not "'go there' if you sense anger" and "limit student access off hours."

"Only meet 'that student' in controlled circumstances," the guidelines state.

"It's not official policy," Faculty Senate President Jonathan Snow told NBC News on Wednesday. "The faculty is waking up now and saying, 'Oh my. Come August I will be teaching classes with students who could by carrying guns."

UH is expected to release it's own "draft policy" on guns in classrooms next week, a university spokeswoman said.

"The University of Houston takes issues surrounding campus safety and guns on campus very seriously and will strive to create policies that comply with the new Campus Carry law, protect the rights of citizens, and address the safety and security of the entire campus," a UH statement reads.

The Texas campus carry law signed by Republican Gov. Greg Abbott allows licensed gun owners 21 and older to carry their weapons on university grounds if they're fully concealed. It was bitterly opposed by most academics across the state and sparked student protests.

"Weapons designed to end human life have no place in the academic life of the University, except when carried by duly authorized law officers," the UH faculty senate wrote in a resolution last year. "The diverse campus communities and free academic discourse are especially threatened by the presence of deadly weapons in teaching, research and living spaces."

Under the law, private universities can opt out and well-known schools like Rice and Baylor have done just that. But not the state schools.

Last week, the president of the University of Texas' main campus in Austin announced they will abide by the law and allow handguns in classrooms even though he opposes the idea.

"Let me say that I do not believe handguns belong in a university setting, in a campus environment dedicated to education and research, but nevertheless as president of a public university, I am responsible for implementing" the new law, Gregory Fenves said.

Texas only the eighth state to allow licensed citizens to carry concealed weapons on state college campuses, according to the National Conference of State Legislatures. The others are Colorado, Idaho, Kansas, Mississippi, Oregon, Utah and Wisconsin.

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/texas-campus-carry-law-putting-damper-academic-debate-n525096
 
August 1st is also the date Charles Whitman, a former marine, took to the clock tower at the University of Texas and shot 46 people, killing 14.
 
August 1st is also the date Charles Whitman, a former marine, took to the clock tower at the University of Texas and shot 46 people, killing 14.

And, if all the students had been armed at the time, they would've stopped him...

...and then gone to their classes, and stopped teachers from talking about the Civil Rights Movement.
 
Well....it's not like the 'gun free zone' signs are doing fuck all.

Until they ban them at large I don't see what the issue is.

I mean it's not like a CHL carrier is going to suddenly lose their shit because on school property.
 
The primary purpose of open carry on campus is to suppress unpopular ideas.

The secondary purpose is to embiggen otherwise-emasculated beta males.
 
Giving binge drinking students weapons should not be a problem.

:rolleyes:
 
The primary purpose of open carry on campus is to suppress unpopular ideas.

The secondary purpose is to embiggen otherwise-emasculated beta males.

Texas will only be moving to concealed carry on campuses.
 
The primary purpose of open carry on campus is to suppress unpopular ideas.

The secondary purpose is to embiggen otherwise-emasculated beta males.

That's what people like you try to make it.....

Reality is gun free zones failed and TX is the 8th state to call the retards supporting them on their derp.

Giving binge drinking students weapons should not be a problem.

:rolleyes:

No one is giving binge drinking students weapons. They are just letting people who already carry into grocery stores, restaurants and banks day in and day out the ability to also carry on campus.
 
That's what people like you try to make it.....

Reality is gun free zones failed and TX is the 8th state to call the retards supporting them on their derp.



No one is giving binge drinking students weapons. They are just letting people who already carry into grocery stores, restaurants and banks day in and day out the ability to also carry on campus.

Well, I was on a college campus for a few years and I am grateful none of my cohort was packing heat.
 
FYI, not Rob ----- > "professors at the University of Houston have started preparing guidelines for dealing with gun-toting students that include warning faculty to steer clear of "sensitive topics"

That doesn't mean the primary purpose of the whole thing is to suppress. That's the school being stupid.
 
FYI, not Rob ----- > "professors at the University of Houston have started preparing guidelines for dealing with gun-toting students that include warning faculty to steer clear of "sensitive topics"

The Universities irrational reaction is not proof of the legislatures intent.

Sorry...you're going to have to do better than that.
 
That doesn't mean the primary purpose of the whole thing is to suppress.

Sure it is. That's what gun nuts have been touting from day one: people carrying guns breeds civility. Breeding civility = suppressing "dangerous" dissent. (Their argument.)
 
Well, I was on a college campus for a few years and I am grateful none of my cohort was packing heat.

If you were in TX or anywhere in the south really, I bet they were. ;)

I know at least 3 students in the bay area who carry on both Berkeley and Stanford campuses.

I can't imagine their being any less than a dozen at my ol' alma mater there in Austin at any given time.

Sure it is. That's what gun nuts have been touting from day one: people carrying guns breeds civility. Breeding civility = suppressing "dangerous" dissent. (Their argument.)

LOL digging DEEP on that one.
 
Sure it is. That's what gun nuts have been touting from day one: people carrying guns breeds civility. Breeding civility = suppressing "dangerous" dissent.

No, that's you deciding that's what it is because you don't agree with the law.
 
No, that's you deciding that's what it is because you don't agree with the law.

I'm fine with the law. (It's Texas - who cares?)

And I will repeat what I said because it's the gun nuts' rationalization, not mine: people carrying guns breeds civility. Breeding civility = suppressing "dangerous" dissent.

Of course they'll deny it now once the obvious errors of this line of thinking are exposed, one of them being the reaction on this campus. They have no integrity. :cool:
 
If you were in TX or anywhere in the south really, I bet they were. ;)

No, I'm a lot older and went to school in the Northeast. All we packed was a pack of smokes and a long unused condom.
 
So much for them being a Liberal thing. ;) (This is, of course, exactly what they wanted.)

Texas Campus Carry Law Putting Damper On Academic Debate

by Corky Siemaszko

A new Texas law allowing people to carry guns on state college campuses is already putting a big chill on fiery academic debate.

The law does not go into effect until Aug. 1, but professors at the University of Houston have started preparing guidelines for dealing with gun-toting students that include warning faculty to steer clear of "sensitive topics" and dropping hot button issues from their curricula, according to a UH Faculty Senate.

The proposed guidelines also advise faculty to not "'go there' if you sense anger" and "limit student access off hours."

"Only meet 'that student' in controlled circumstances," the guidelines state.

"It's not official policy," Faculty Senate President Jonathan Snow told NBC News on Wednesday. "The faculty is waking up now and saying, 'Oh my. Come August I will be teaching classes with students who could by carrying guns."

UH is expected to release it's own "draft policy" on guns in classrooms next week, a university spokeswoman said.

"The University of Houston takes issues surrounding campus safety and guns on campus very seriously and will strive to create policies that comply with the new Campus Carry law, protect the rights of citizens, and address the safety and security of the entire campus," a UH statement reads.

The Texas campus carry law signed by Republican Gov. Greg Abbott allows licensed gun owners 21 and older to carry their weapons on university grounds if they're fully concealed. It was bitterly opposed by most academics across the state and sparked student protests.

"Weapons designed to end human life have no place in the academic life of the University, except when carried by duly authorized law officers," the UH faculty senate wrote in a resolution last year. "The diverse campus communities and free academic discourse are especially threatened by the presence of deadly weapons in teaching, research and living spaces."

Under the law, private universities can opt out and well-known schools like Rice and Baylor have done just that. But not the state schools.

Last week, the president of the University of Texas' main campus in Austin announced they will abide by the law and allow handguns in classrooms even though he opposes the idea.

"Let me say that I do not believe handguns belong in a university setting, in a campus environment dedicated to education and research, but nevertheless as president of a public university, I am responsible for implementing" the new law, Gregory Fenves said.

Texas only the eighth state to allow licensed citizens to carry concealed weapons on state college campuses, according to the National Conference of State Legislatures. The others are Colorado, Idaho, Kansas, Mississippi, Oregon, Utah and Wisconsin.

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/texas-campus-carry-law-putting-damper-academic-debate-n525096

^^^^^His safe space is a closet
 
That's what people like you try to make it.....

Reality is gun free zones failed and TX is the 8th state to call the retards supporting them on their derp.

So "MOAR GUNS" is the answer to everything? :rolleyes:

Will they make your testicles somehow magically grow back?

It's worth remembering that the first thing your buddies the Nazis did when they came to power was make it easier for the right people to obtain and carry guns. http://i1239.photobucket.com/albums/ff502/Soonyigump/flaggede28bh.gif
 
No, I'm a lot older and went to school in the Northeast. All we packed was a pack of smokes and an unused condom.

Ah..well that might be the case.

I still think there are at least a couple on each campus now days. Texas Universities are delusional if they think guns haven't been on campus the entire time.

If they are at Berkeley, they really could be anywhere.
 
"I'm scared my teacher might challenge me to talk about Dr. King. I don't know anything about him!"

[friend gives him gun]

"Don't worry - you won't need to."

:cool:
 
So "MOAR GUNS" is the answer to everything? :rolleyes:

Will they make your testicles somehow magically grow back?

It's worth remembering that the first thing your buddies the Nazis did when they came to power was make it easier for the right people to obtain and carry guns. http://i1239.photobucket.com/albums/ff502/Soonyigump/flaggede28bh.gif

Did I say it was?

Look your line of reasoning is so poor you immediately respond with ascription, racism, bigotry against disabled people and then right for the end zone for a Godwin TD!!!

Good job high speed...LOL

That's what fraternities are for.:rolleyes:

:D
 
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