The Naughty cheating wives thread, and the men who love them pt2...

We frequently visit Vegas and I’ve yet to find somewhere to take her where we could “accidentally” find someone. She would never initiate on her own :-(
I sent my wife to Las Vegas with a hall pass a month ago. She either couldn’t or didn’t want to take advantage. I figured the city was best place for this to take place. I was sort of disappointed. Las Vegas let me down.
 
My husband got me into it to slut me up. Boy did that backfire on him. Now I have a black owner who lends me out on "dates" and I'm used in ways I never could have imagined. I don't know if this pic will come through, but this is a pic when I was on a date with two guys. They took turns using me and taking pics.

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Looks like it worked out well for you both
 
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I sent my wife to Las Vegas with a hall pass a month ago. She either couldn’t or didn’t want to take advantage. I figured the city was best place for this to take place. I was sort of disappointed. Las Vegas let me down.
Finding a random stranger that would appeal to her would be a long shot. Best way would be to send her with a date. That way she would have company and more than likely use that hall pass.
 
Actually yes, we have gone there. And it's usually been initiated by him too (which I take as a really good sign!)

"So you were in the bathroom at the restaurant tonight for a long time. Did you wiggle your finger at that waiter you were flirting with all night to follow you in there? Did you think I wouldn't notice the big smile on his face and the look he gave you when he asked us if we wanted dessert?"

To anyone who happens to be reading this, role-playing a few different scenarios a few times BEFORE anything actually happens is definitely a GREAT way to test the waters. I very much recommend it! :) :devil:
That is awesome. Glad you liked my suggestion. I'm looking forward to hearing more of your stories. Thanks for the reply.
 
I sent my wife to Las Vegas with a hall pass a month ago. She either couldn’t or didn’t want to take advantage. I figured the city was best place for this to take place. I was sort of disappointed. Las Vegas let me down.
That’s how I’ve felt so far haha
 
I sent my wife to Las Vegas with a hall pass a month ago. She either couldn’t or didn’t want to take advantage. I figured the city was best place for this to take place. I was sort of disappointed. Las Vegas let me down.
Jus cuz she ain't saying--, don't mean she wasn't playn.
 
Finding a random stranger that would appeal to her would be a long shot. Best way would be to send her with a date. That way she would have company and more than likely use that hall pass.

I find that men tend to underestimate the level of interest their wife has in other men, but once they accept that reality they tend to overestimate our level of interest in hooking-up with a stranger. IMO it is mainly a function of the practical reality of the female sexual experience. While it is true that I prefer to have some kind of personal connection with my lovers, I have no fundamental objection to hooking up with a stranger. It is just that sex isn't as predictably enjoyable for me (or most women I think) as it is for most men.

In other words, if a guy hooks up with a woman and she lets him fuck her it is almost always an enjoyable experience for him. However, for the woman there is a much higher probability that the experience will be mediocre or unsatisfying. That isn't meant as a criticism of men. It is just the nature of our sexuality and our physiology. As a result, we need to be more deliberate and discerning to ensure that we enjoy the experience.
 
I find that men tend to underestimate the level of interest their wife has in other men, but once they accept that reality they tend to overestimate our level of interest in hooking-up with a stranger. IMO it is mainly a function of the practical reality of the female sexual experience. While it is true that I prefer to have some kind of personal connection with my lovers, I have no fundamental objection to hooking up with a stranger. It is just that sex isn't as predictably enjoyable for me (or most women I think) as it is for most men.

In other words, if a guy hooks up with a woman and she lets him fuck her it is almost always an enjoyable experience for him. However, for the woman there is a much higher probability that the experience will be mediocre or unsatisfying. That isn't meant as a criticism of men. It is just the nature of our sexuality and our physiology. As a result, we need to be more deliberate and discerning to ensure that we enjoy the experience.
I am still debating with myself on the sex with a stranger. It is a common fantasy of mine and it does add some special spice. One would need to be careful and as you say, the sex might not be that great. I have only done it one time in my 40's where I met a guy at my hotel bar and ended up back in my room. The sex was fantastic but I was more than ready and willing to give it my best shot. I think you are right that most husbands have no idea of the interest their wife might have in other men and probably many women do not understand what they are feeling either.
 
It is one of those things that we are not supposed to feel. So we suppress it and don't share those feelings with other women. That lack of sharing makes us all believe that we are the only ones. But when we start to open up we realize that women feel this way as much (or maybe more so) than men.

I find that sex with strangers is sort of like my favourite junk foods. They are super tempting. Often they miss the mark and I end up thinking it was not nearly as good as I had hoped. Lol. But it presses all the right buttons just often enough to keep the temptation alive.
 
That wasn't my meaning. I was wondering if there may have been one person that was instrumental in showing a woman that she had the capacity to explore something new?

That wasn't the case for me. I am sure it has been for some others. In general I feel as though men have a tendency to see this dynamic in a very male-centric way - a woman goes outside of her marriage to get something her husband can't offer. Either way it is a man leading the way in all things including a woman's exploration of her own sexuality. In reality I think it is more often a woman who is exploring her own sexuality and understanding her own innate desire to do so because of her ability to appreciate the variety available to her. It isn't about swapping one male lead for another. It is about the woman taking her own lead role.
 
That wasn't the case for me. I am sure it has been for some others. In general I feel as though men have a tendency to see this dynamic in a very male-centric way - a woman goes outside of her marriage to get something her husband can't offer. Either way it is a man leading the way in all things including a woman's exploration of her own sexuality. In reality I think it is more often a woman who is exploring her own sexuality and understanding her own innate desire to do so because of her ability to appreciate the variety available to her. It isn't about swapping one male lead for another. It is about the woman taking her own lead role.
Is there anything that a man might be able to do, without trying to take over, to encourage a woman to explore the possibilities open to her? Asking for a friend...
 
Lol, tell your friend it really depends on the woman. But as a starting point I would say that it isn't a man's place to encourage a woman to do anything. Or at least very rarely. Unless the man is in a position to have a very clear idea of what she wants and what would be beneficial to her and she is receptive to that kind of intervention from him, otherwise he is just meddling and trying to get her to do what pleases him.

Any such discussion should start with what she wants. To the extent that a man wants to encourage the woman it should be to explore her own desires honestly and openly. She doesn't need suggestions. She needs a safe space to contemplate. And often the best way to create that safe space is to make yourself vulnerable. For instance, telling her that it is ok to be open and you want her to explore is of limited utility because that really is an invitation for her to make herself vulnerable. Telling her that you won't judge her helps a bit but not that much. It is kind of like telling someone with stage fright to just go out there - you aren't the one doing it so it is just words. But if you make yourself vulnerable that puts you on more equal footing and you are really on stage with her.

Make your feelings known. Just be careful not to focus on what you want her to do. Tell her that the idea of her having sex with other men excites you (or your friend). Or tell her that you find traditional notions of female sexuality to be oppressive and that you find sexually open women to be very attractive. Your friend will probably be nervous that she will judge him negatively for this. Yup, that is the same nervousness she would feel about expressing her true sexual desires. But if you can't face it you can't expect her to either.

I know at least a couple women on here who started dating other men with their husband's support because their husband was unable to perform for medical reasons. It is my impression that they got to where they are by focussing on the wife's sexual needs and desires rather than what the husband wanted them to do so they would probably have some unique insight to this.
 
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Lol, tell your friend it really depends on the woman. But as a starting point I would say that it isn't a man's place to encourage a woman to do anything. Or at least very rarely. Unless the man is in a position to have a very clear idea of what she wants and what would be beneficial to her and she is receptive to that kind of intervention from him, otherwise he is just meddling and trying to get her to do what pleases him.

Any such discussion should start with what she wants. To the extent that a man wants to encourage the woman it should be to explore her own desires honestly and openly. She doesn't need suggestions. She needs a safe space to contemplate. And often the best way to create that safe space is to make yourself vulnerable. For instance, telling her that it is ok to be open and you want her to explore is of limited utility because that really is an invitation for her to make herself vulnerable. Telling her that you won't judge her helps a bit but not that much. It is kind of like telling someone with stage fright to just go out there - you aren't the one doing it so it is just words. But if you make yourself vulnerable that puts you on more equal footing and you are really on stage with her.

Make your feelings known. Just be careful not to focus on what you want her to do. Tell her that the idea of her having sex with other men excites you (or your friend). Or tell her that you find traditional notions of female sexuality to be oppressive and that you find sexually open women to be very attractive. Your friend will probably be nervous that she will judge him negatively for this. Yup, that is the same nervousness she would feel about expressing her true sexual desires. But if you can't face it you can't expect her to either.

I know at least a couple women on here who started dating other men with their husband's support because their husband was unable to perform for medical reasons. It is my impression that they got to where they are by focussing on the wife's sexual needs and desires rather than what the husband wanted them to do so they would probably have some unique insight to this.
I know everyone says this but my wife’s needs (not just sexual) are my priority. It’s frustrating because she doesn’t recognize it no matter how much I tell her. Heretofore, she has resisted taking charge and communicating the needs she has but is too scared to admit to.
 
Bumping this great thread.

I can’t speak for my gf of her likes of our situation but I love when she plays with other guys. I’m secure with myself and I know what I am and what I’m not. I do what I can to be a great boyfriend for her, and we have a great relationship.

She has a thing for tall guys, and gingers and I love hearing about it after she plays and we have great sex. It’s hot to me knowing my cock wasn’t the only one she enjoyed that day.
 
Lol, tell your friend it really depends on the woman. But as a starting point I would say that it isn't a man's place to encourage a woman to do anything. Or at least very rarely. Unless the man is in a position to have a very clear idea of what she wants and what would be beneficial to her and she is receptive to that kind of intervention from him, otherwise he is just meddling and trying to get her to do what pleases him.

Any such discussion should start with what she wants. To the extent that a man wants to encourage the woman it should be to explore her own desires honestly and openly. She doesn't need suggestions. She needs a safe space to contemplate. And often the best way to create that safe space is to make yourself vulnerable. For instance, telling her that it is ok to be open and you want her to explore is of limited utility because that really is an invitation for her to make herself vulnerable. Telling her that you won't judge her helps a bit but not that much. It is kind of like telling someone with stage fright to just go out there - you aren't the one doing it so it is just words. But if you make yourself vulnerable that puts you on more equal footing and you are really on stage with her.

Make your feelings known. Just be careful not to focus on what you want her to do. Tell her that the idea of her having sex with other men excites you (or your friend). Or tell her that you find traditional notions of female sexuality to be oppressive and that you find sexually open women to be very attractive. Your friend will probably be nervous that she will judge him negatively for this. Yup, that is the same nervousness she would feel about expressing her true sexual desires. But if you can't face it you can't expect her to either.

I know at least a couple women on here who started dating other men with their husband's support because their husband was unable to perform for medical reasons. It is my impression that they got to where they are by focussing on the wife's sexual needs and desires rather than what the husband wanted them to do so they would probably have some unique insight to this.
As usual you are right on and have some very good points. We started talking about it as more of a swinging lifestyle. Health issues and Covid made it much more feasible for us to move to me dating other men. It does need to be about what she wants with due consideration to the partner. She should not be doing it because he wants her to. I just can not see that working long term.
 
I know everyone says this but my wife’s needs (not just sexual) are my priority. It’s frustrating because she doesn’t recognize it no matter how much I tell her. Heretofore, she has resisted taking charge and communicating the needs she has but is too scared to admit to.
I do not think your focus should be on her needs. She needs to decide what she wants. I would suggest simply having some serious discussion about sex, monogamy, etc. Don't push her to do anything but let her decide if she might like to try something different. After we retired, we started talking about what we wanted to do with our life. Conversation was mostly about travel or things we wanted to try and then came around to a sexual bucket list. Men can be just as bad as women when it comes to talking about fantasies, etc. It seemed that I had to drag his wish list out of him.
 
I do not think your focus should be on her needs. She needs to decide what she wants. I would suggest simply having some serious discussion about sex, monogamy, etc. Don't push her to do anything but let her decide if she might like to try something different. After we retired, we started talking about what we wanted to do with our life. Conversation was mostly about travel or things we wanted to try and then came around to a sexual bucket list. Men can be just as bad as women when it comes to talking about fantasies, etc. It seemed that I had to drag his wish list out of him.
Thanks I-55. I’ve really enjoyed your advice the last few days. I’ve definitely had those conversations but she has a lot of walls from her upbringing so that makes it difficult. But when she’s ready to discuss them, so am I.
 
Thanks I-55. I’ve really enjoyed your advice the last few days. I’ve definitely had those conversations but she has a lot of walls from her upbringing so that makes it difficult. But when she’s ready to discuss them, so am I.
Go slow and don't spook her.
 
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