The Men's Rights movement is necessary because...

[BotanyBoy]

...It has literally everything to do with the men's rights movement. It's a huge issue within the men's rights movement- I'm active in the men's rights movement. That's extremely insulting. At this point I have to wonder if I've been troll-baited.

And the fact that you think that trivializing domestic violence is trivial... baffles me. This chick was bragging about slapping her partner around. If those genders were reversed, would you still consider it trivial? Would you still consider it a goddamn joke? Even if it didn't hurt you think that the emotional trauma of living in a relationship where your partner thinks so little of you that slapping you repeatedly is a goddamn joke to them is trivial!?

You really don't see how fucking insulting that is? What if that was your fucking son?

Don't feed the trolls man, clearly this person is a piece of shit who condones the abuse of domestic partners so long as the victims are male. Why bother?

 

[CandiCame]

i am simply saying that none of this has anything to do with a men's right movevent. there needs to be promotion for support for men in domestic violence - but that has nothing to do with with a men's rights movement. and also the original article that was posted was pretty trivial.

Seriously, what the fuck are you talking about? This comment is completely baffeling!

"A social movement advocating for equality for men has absolutely nothing to with a social movement advocating for equality for men! Yes, men should be treated similarly to women in cases of domestic violence, but men should never be treated equally to women in cases of domestic violence! Yes it's wrong for the media to make fun of male victims of domestic violence, but an article about the media making fun of a victim of male domestic violence is completely trivial!"

Explain this to me. I have a headache from trying to decipher it myself.

 

[oodvibrations]

Seriously, what the fuck are you talking about? This comment is completely baffeling!

"A social movement advocating for equality for men has absolutely nothing to with a social movement advocating for equality for men! Yes, men should be treated similarly to women in cases of domestic violence, but men should never be treated equally to women in cases of domestic violence! Yes it's wrong for the media to make fun of male victims of domestic violence, but an article about the media making fun of a victim of male domestic violence is completely trivial!"

Explain this to me. I have a headache from trying to decipher it myself.

the article wasn't making fun out of it. read it.

 

[CandiCame]

the article wasn't making fun out of it. read it.

Oh, I see why you're confused. If you call someone out on their bullshit then clearly said bullshit never happened. BotonyBoy was right. You're a troll. You fucking got. Hope you had fun.

But do know that I am literally the easiest trolled person ever. You didn't accomplish much.

 

[CandiCame]

got me^

 

[oodvibrations]

Oh, I see why you're confused. If you call someone out on their bullshit then clearly said bullshit never happened. BotonyBoy was right. You're a troll. You fucking got. Hope you had fun.

But do know that I am literally the easiest trolled person ever. You didn't accomplish much.

what the hell are you talking about? you said yourself you didn't even read the first post - so if anyone is trolling it is you. you seem to just want to jump in to a post someone wrote without even reading it. riiggghhhttt

 

[CandiCame]

what the hell are you talking about? you said yourself you didn't even read the first post - so if anyone is trolling it is you. you seem to just want to jump in to a post someone wrote without even reading it. riiggghhhttt

I didn't, until you asked me to. And then I read an article about someone's who's domestic violence was so bad that a domestic violence advocate had to decree the show, because the media treated it as a joke. What article did you read?

 

[oodvibrations]

I didn't, until you asked me to. And then I read an article about someone's who's domestic violence was so bad that a domestic violence advocate had to decree the show, because the media treated it as a joke. What article did you read?

i read an article about a reality tv show. which is trivial by default.

 

[CandiCame]

i read an article about a reality tv show. which is trivial by default.

Really? You don't think reality TV influences our culture at all? You don't think that it's part of the zeitgeist? You honestly don't think that it speaks as an example of a larger problem? You think that every show, every book, every piece of media exists within a vacuum?

 

[Boxlicker101]

noone has said that male abuse is not underreported - i think everyone here would accept that to be the case.

i just think that when people make ridiculous claims like "women abuse men more than men abuse women" they should be pulled up on it.

Nobody has claimed women physically abuse men more than vice-versa, although they might commit more psychological abuse than men do. What I did say is that, including abuse of children, women very likely commit more domestic abuse than men.

 

[LJ_Reloaded]

this is a ridiculous claim. so the lack of online documentation of male abuse leads you to assume that women actually commit more abuse then men? are you serious?

http://jezebel.com/294383/have-you-ever-beat-up-a-boyfriend-cause-uh-we-have

According to a study of relationships that engage in nonreciprocal violence, a whopping 70% are perpetrated by women. So basically that means that girls are beating up their BFs and husbands and the dudes aren't fighting back. With Amy Winehouse busting open a can of whupass on her husband last week, we decided to conduct an informal survey of the Jezebels to see who's gotten violent with their men. After reviewing the answers, let's just say that it'd be wise to never ever fuck with us.

 

[LJ_Reloaded]

i dont see how this warrants a need for a men's rights movement. i dont really think you can compare this with the women's rights movement that continues to have a postive affect in generating social change in countries around the world.

You don't see the need for a men's rights movement? Who else is going to bring awareness to the issue of woman-on-man domestic violence?

Feminists?

Surely you kid.

 

[badbabysitter]

http://jezebel.com/294383/have-you-ever-beat-up-a-boyfriend-cause-uh-we-have

According to a study of relationships that engage in nonreciprocal violence, a whopping 70% are perpetrated by women. So basically that means that girls are beating up their BFs and husbands and the dudes aren't fighting back. With Amy Winehouse busting open a can of whupass on her husband last week, we decided to conduct an informal survey of the Jezebels to see who's gotten violent with their men. After reviewing the answers, let's just say that it'd be wise to never ever fuck with us.

not to diminish the acts of violence commited by women


but...

the study in question is about women with BPD and their propensity to general violence...and its not gender specific when it comes to victims

so it's not a domestic violence study at all...it's more of a mental health study

 

[LJ_Reloaded]

not to diminish the acts of violence commited by women


but...

the study in question is about women with BPD and their propensity to general violence...and its not gender specific when it comes to victims

so it's not a domestic violence study at all...it's more of a mental health study

The point of the OP is that this is why we need MRA's... because Jezebel was making JOKES about this kind of woman-on-man violence.

If we had a stronger men's rights movement, Jezebel would be quite afraid to make sick jokes like that.

 

[bronzeage]

I could always use a few more rights. What are they offering?

 

[badbabysitter]

The point of the OP is that this is why we need MRA's... because Jezebel was making JOKES about this kind of woman-on-man violence.

If we had a stronger men's rights movement, Jezebel would be quite afraid to make sick jokes like that.

the Jezebel article is stupid, i'll agree... but alot of their shit is

i bet one can find just as stupid shit on MRA sites though

once again, i support men fighting for their rights..the above, is not an example of it...it's just getting angry at stupid people

 

[LJ_Reloaded]

the Jezebel article is stupid, i'll agree... but alot of their shit is

i bet one can find just as stupid shit on MRA sites though

Indeed you will. But as the OP says, women's rights groups will never protest stuff like this.

once again, i support men fighting for their rights..the above, is not an example of it...it's just getting angry at stupid people

If a men's site wrote

"we decided to conduct an informal survey of the blahblah's to see who's gotten violent with their women. After reviewing the answers, let's just say that it'd be wise to never ever fuck with us."

there'd be a fucking internet riot.

 

[badbabysitter]

Indeed you will. But as the OP says, women's rights groups will never protest stuff like this.


If a men's site wrote

"we decided to conduct an informal survey of the blahblah's to see who's gotten violent with their women. After reviewing the answers, let's just say that it'd be wise to never ever fuck with us."

there'd be a fucking internet riot.

dude, I've seen an mra article that says being drunk is a legitmate excuse to be innocent of rape

no riot


I'm not going to protest a 6 year old pathetically researched article on Jezebel about Amy Winehouse that doesnt even support it's own claims... for the same reason I didnt protest the " I was drunk-rape go free card" article....

because it doesnt have a ray of legitimacy and was brushed off


I'd become rory , but my cade would be bullshit articles

entertaining for him, but no one else gives a shit

 

[CandiCame]

I could always use a few more rights. What are they offering?

The vast majority of it has to do with equal protection from domestic violence and fair hearings for child custody.