The Media Wars Escalate! Obama Snubs Fox…

[amicus]

This coming weekend, the President of the United States, will push for his Obamacare plan by appearing of five Network and Cable Television news programs, ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, MSNBC, but not Fox News Network.

Chris Wallace does a Sunday News show on the Fox Cable Network and was interviewed today concerning the ‘snub’.

“If the Administration wants to get their message out, they should include Fox, as we have the ratings the other outlets do not.” (I paraphrase)

One can understand the administration’s reluctance to appear on Fox, the Czar was outed and ACORN exposed exclusively by the Fox network and no other media source.

Why is Obama picking a fight with Fox News?

Even the Far Left on this forum tune in to find out what is going on in the real world outside the media bias of the Left.

This should be interesting…

Amicus

 

[Jenny_Jackson]

This coming weekend, the President of the United States, will push for his Obamacare plan by appearing of five Network and Cable Television news programs, ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, MSNBC, but not Fox News Network.

Chris Wallace does a Sunday News show on the Fox Cable Network and was interviewed today concerning the ‘snub’.

“If the Administration wants to get their message out, they should include Fox, as we have the ratings the other outlets do not.” (I paraphrase)

One can understand the administration’s reluctance to appear on Fox, the Czar was outed and ACORN exposed exclusively by the Fox network and no other media source.

Why is Obama picking a fight with Fox News?

Even the Far Left on this forum tune in to find out what is going on in the real world outside the media bias of the Left.

This should be interesting…

Amicus

Obamacare is a dead horse. Obama doesn't have the votes to get it through congress. His insistance that he's going to shove it down our throats is very tiring.

 

[amicus]

Hi, Jenny, that was quick...yes I agree. This President has held more news conferences and made more television appearances than any other ever before him.

Ain't gonna work!



ami

 

[Liar]

Why is Obama picking a fight with Fox News?

I think it's a matter of efficiency. It's a PR tour, and you go with the audience you think you have a chance at convincing. Is there a FOX-exclusive viewer (one that he doesn't reach on the other channels) that would listen to anything he has to say?

That being said, he should do it anyway. He wouldn't be off worse in the eyes of people who think he's Satan, whatever he says.

 

[amicus]

To hear CNN & MSNBC portray Fox as a home to nuts and loonies only, yeah, that might be a 'niche' audience for the Prez....

ami

 

[Liar]

Not nuts and looneys only.

But those that ONLY watch Fox, are likely mostly the same people that are so vehemently against Obama they would switch to ESPN in disgust.

If someone get his news from one source only, he IS a bit of a loon.

 

[vella_ms]

Not nuts and looneys only.

But those that ONLY watch Fox, are likely mostly the same people that are so vehemently against Obama they would switch to ESPN in disgust.

If someone get his news from one source only, he IS a bit of a loon.

[hijack]
hello friend. i've thought of you.
[/hijack]

 

[Huckleman2000]

I'm surprised, Amicus, that you fail to see the objective fruitlessness of appearing on Faux News. What might Obama gain? Footage that will be re-cut to mislead viewers is all the appearance would accomplish. That's hardly an upside. Moreover, it legitimizes the channel by raising it to the level of news sources that aren't actively orchestrating ginned-up anti-anything-Obama hate-fests.

To put it in terms you're more likely to grasp: You should think of Obama talking to FNC like you think of the US negotiating with Iran. Except there's maybe more shared objectives with Iran.

 

[DesertPirate]

What he would gain is an audience, even if they don't like what he says.
The ratings have Fox beating all the others badly.
There has to be a reason.
Maybe folks are not buying what the others try to pass as truth?

 

[amicus]

Well, Huck, we know which side of the bread you butter up.

You are whistling in the dark when you question the legitimacy of Fox News, that bogeyman is really out there stalking a very left wing administration and has bagged a few Badgers already.

What should trouble you and all American's is the total one-sided representation of Obama before, during the campaign and now in office, by what once was Mainstream News, the Network channels and their cable offspring that are philosophically tuned only to the left.

It is quite surreal, really, with heavy majority in the House and Senate and the White House, the utter failure to conduct the Nation's business domestically or internationally. The latest foul ball is withdrawing the missile shield from Poland and the Czech Republic to pacify the hard line Russians.

Obama is a complete failure once off the campaign trail.

Amicus

 

[vella_ms]

Well, Huck, we know which side of the bread you butter up.

You are whistling in the dark when you question the legitimacy of Fox News, that bogeyman is really out there stalking a very left wing administration and has bagged a few Badgers already.

What should trouble you and all American's is the total one-sided representation of Obama before, during the campaign and now in office, by what once was Mainstream News, the Network channels and their cable offspring that are philosophically tuned only to the left.

It is quite surreal, really, with heavy majority in the House and Senate and the White House, the utter failure to conduct the Nation's business domestically or internationally. The latest foul ball is withdrawing the missile shield from Poland and the Czech Republic to pacify the hard line Russians.

Obama is a complete failure once off the campaign trail.

Amicus

sweet! its been a while so i thought i would come crashing in on your diatribe.
hello, friend.
its me, vella. just thought i would come to say that *i hug you* regardless of whatever rant you're on.
its all good.
*keeses*

 

[TE999]

Obamacare is a dead horse. Obama doesn't have the votes to get it through congress. His insistence that he's going to shove it down our throats is very tiring.

Word to the White House! The Big O's on the tube like the party guest that won't go home. If this Health Care plan was 1/10th as good as they claim it will be, everyone would be on the bandwagon and it'd be a done deal.

There's no Health Care plan that makes any sense and there never will be. Why? Because one size doesn't fit all no matter how you parse it. Combine that with the budget busting costs and it's dead in the water.

It'd be cheaper to open government health clinics in every city and town in America that would provide basic care and deal with emergencies. The more serious problems would be handled by the hospitals with a government payback. Everyone else would keep what health plans they have and everybody would have medical coverage that needs it.

I guess that's too simple.

 

[Liar]

It'd be cheaper to open government health clinics in every city and town in America that would provide basic care and deal with emergencies.

You mean like the NHS in Britain?

The more serious problems would be handled by the hospitals with a government payback.

A.k.a single payer.

Everyone else would keep what health plans they have and everybody would have medical coverage that needs it.

I guess that's too simple.

Simple yes. Also way way way more radical than anything that's on the table now. A public option pales in comparison. What you're suggesting is Bernie Sanders style progressive.

So please, make up your mind, can gubmint run things or can't they?

 

[Jenny_Jackson]

So please, make up your mind, can gubmint run things or can't they?

Since the gubmint can't even make up its mind what the particulars of the health plan should be the obvious answer is NO. Should the gubmint get into the Health Care business we would have another, larger, MUCH LARGER medicare fraud mess with a thousand times more red tape and a system bogged down by buracratic bullshit and infighting.

Obama doesn't have the votes to get this thing through congress anyway, so the real question is WHY IS HE PUSHING IT? It seems to me to be the old magician's trick of misdirecting attention away from the real action - in this case the mishandling of the economy and the squanderous bail outs of the Banks and Auto Manufacturers. (Remember that $2.3 Trillion dollars?)

 

[Liar]

I wasn't particulary asking you Jenny. I have no beef with anyone opposing socialization, as long as you're consistent.

I asked the guy who in past threads have been part of the "gummint can't do anything right" crowd, and now in that post seems to suggest gummint clinics and gummint run single-payer healthcare. Does he really mean what he wrote?

 

[Pure]

ami Even the Far Left on this forum tune in to find out what is going on in the real world outside the media bias of the Left.

pure: of course in your tiny lexicon, "far left" is hillary clinton. but NO, i doubt that faux news is watched by any of us. your posts parrot the line within a day, so what's the point.

What should trouble you and all American's is the total one-sided representation of Obama before, during the campaign and now in office, by what once was Mainstream News, the Network channels and their cable offspring that are philosophically tuned only to the left.


pure: no, i don't think CNN is particulary left: they were cheerleading Bush II's invasion as well as Bush I's. the idea that Fox represents 'mainstream' is idle fantasy. fox people are red staters or minority bubbas who happen to live in the North. if fox represented the majority, the Repugs would be in office. Foxers are like the 'birthers'-- an angry 30 percent or so, with a talent for getting on tv. where the stupid CNN gives them equal time, often.

 

[JamesSD]

It's a smart strategy.

Obama needs to appeal to the majority of the country who voted for him. Those people don't watch FAUX "News".

 

[amicus]

Stepping back just a tad from the 'faith based' left, who have vested their entire agena in the Democrats and Obama; that there can even be a rational discussion concerning 'bias' in the NEWS, as Broadcast by major networks, is an overt exclamation that bias does exist.

That five of the six NEWS sources are in lip synched agreement and only one is perceived as different, is in itself, a NEWS story for anyone who grew up when Journalism was objective and non partisan.

So many of the issues that were new and controversial a half century ago, environmental activism, women's rights, gay rights, civil rights, anti war, just to name a few, have become the base fundamental for what was once 'mainstream news'.

One will be coined an 'heretic' if one voices opposition to any one of the above listed issues, those of the, 'faith based left', who BELIEVE their goals are righteous, so righteous in fact, that to express, here, on an open forum, of all places, a disagreement with anyone of the issues, is to be a Troll, who just wants to stir up an argument and 'flame' the true believers.

Most of you won't even stop and think, or consider that what I wrote above is valid; how could it be? Modern, left wing progressive Liberalism equates to fundamentalist Christians or Muslims. Your and their lives are guided by faith that cannot be questioned or challenged by anyone.

You need to begin building some places of worship, like Churches or Mosques, so we can avoid the stench of faith.

Church of the Unholy Left...now there be a title for you!

Amicus

edited to add: http://amicusfiles.ning.com/profiles/blogs/church-of-the-unholy-left

 

[Liar]

Stepping back just a tad from the 'faith based' left, who have vested their entire agena in the Democrats and Obama; that there can even be a rational discussion concerning 'bias' in the NEWS, as Broadcast by major networks, is an overt exclamation that bias does exist.

That five of the six NEWS sources are in lip synched agreement and only one is perceived as different, is in itself, a NEWS story for anyone who grew up when Journalism was objective and non partisan.

Stepping back just a tad from the 'faith based' fringe right, who have vested their entire agenda in hatred of the Democrats and Obama; that there can be a discussion about the 'bias' in the NEWS, as broadcast by major networks, is an overt exclamation that a) bias does exist and that b) it is not as black-and-white as they make it out to be.

That the FOX evangelics precieves five of the six NEWS sources to be in lip synched agreement and precieves only one as different, is in itself, not a NEWS story but an interresting obvservation of people whose ideology-centrist world view can't handle the nuanced voices of a world where Journalism is no longer objective and partisan.

They precieve the one source that touts their ideology as objective, and everyone else as not only subjective, but ideologically the same. Everything that is not they, is the enemy. And the enemy can not be complex and diverse.