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Yes what she said. the origen of the debate was. Hostorickly fuller bodyed women were viewed as lovely look at all the great artist's works. writen works talk of curves, ampel curves at that. when/why is thin so in now? but any of the subjects are open it is all thinking, insightful, and helpful imput.
 
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I think it started out as talking about 'traditional' body types and how society's view of them has changed, which en route turned into a discussion about how being bigger doesn't necessarily denote an unhealthy lifestyle.

At least, I think that's what happened.

Anyway, how's you lovely?

I'm good, listening to music, writing stories, can't say I can complain.

As for being bigger and a healthy lifestyle and society and what not. I kind of don't care. The BMI scale was created by a Belgian mathematician who was trying to tie 19th century body statistics to 19th century sociology. It wasn't even meant to show Belgians in 1840 what to weigh let alone tell them if they were in shape. Some people can't lose weight easily (endomorphs), some can't put it on, let alone muscle (ectomorphs), and some can attain a Greek god like figure (mesomorph). Our bodies have limits as to what they can become, one should be healthy for their own sake and not because society tells you them they should.

I don't know if that was a correct, but screw it. How are you, Brit?
 
I'm good, listening to music, writing stories, can't say I can complain.

As for being bigger and a healthy lifestyle and society and what not. I kind of don't care. The BMI scale was created by a Belgian mathematician who was trying to tie 19th century body statistics to 19th century sociology. It wasn't even meant to show Belgians in 1840 what to weigh let alone tell them if they were in shape. Some people can't lose weight easily (endomorphs), some can't put it on, let alone muscle (ectomorphs), and some can attain a Greek god like figure (mesomorph). Our bodies have limits as to what they can become, one should be healthy for their own sake and not because society tells you them they should.

I don't know if that was a correct, but screw it. How are you, Brit?

Music and writing? Sounds pretty good to me.

And I'm not bad at all thanks.
I'm all caught up with my threads and have a new character to work on ready to start writing her in the hopefully not-too-distant future.

smiles

Not bad at all.
 
I Love boobs. Lil ones. Big ones. Mostly just real ones. Love nipples. Mens. Womens. Hell i love missing ones too.
Hmm probably just love skin. Rough, smooth, soft, or furry.
If i like you I'm rubbin all of me all over all of you.

Now this body image thing is fucked. My girl thinks shes fat and i wanna smack her when she starves her self eaten salads n water. Its just fucked up. She is one of the most beautiful women i know but she gets so depressed about body image. Only thing i can say is eat what your body needs to be healthy. If it makes you thiner great. If it doesnt you're a healthy woman. Go cut the.tags outta your cloths.... Or just get naked and come over here. And she is the most active person i know too. Hiking canoeing camping,caring for her stepdaughter a horse, dogs a house work and so much more.

Fuck it. Everyone is beautiful if they are beautiful on the motherfuckin inside.

Ugly comes from the inside too and is often labeled pretty.

Now that healthy thing. I do know a man that needs to lose weight. And i do smack him all the time. Ill call him up just to make sure hes eating right. That man helped me through my year of.living hell and almost died in my damned bed. You best believe I'm gonna smack a big Mac outta his hands. He cared enough to help me find sanity I'm damned sure gonna help him eat better and be here a long ass time. Now dont get me wrong. He'd look silly as a skinny boy. But if he manages that AND IT MADE HIM HAPPY, ill buy him a ton of spedos or a new couch or what ever else made him happy. Cause he's happy... Hell i dont care if he.does lose weight but he better get healthier dammit.

I'm not even rereading this... And i might have to stop being a bitch about people writing from their phones. Someday.

What was i talking about?

Oh yeah, i love boobs.
 
Music and writing? Sounds pretty good to me.

And I'm not bad at all thanks.
I'm all caught up with my threads and have a new character to work on ready to start writing her in the hopefully not-too-distant future.

smiles

Not bad at all.

I just started 2 stories. I kind had that rush where it all just came so perfectly when I was typing them. I felt rather proud of myself.

As for the music, I looked over my itunes and found music I forgot I had. I used to keep it in my ipod until it broke, now I only have a few songs on my iPhone. I need to get more songs.
 
I Love boobs. Lil ones. Big ones. Mostly just real ones. Love nipples. Mens. Womens. Hell i love missing ones too.
Hmm probably just love skin. Rough, smooth, soft, or furry.
If i like you I'm rubbin all of me all over all of you.

Now this body image thing is fucked. My girl thinks shes fat and i wanna smack her when she starves her self eaten salads n water. Its just fucked up. She is one of the most beautiful women i know but she gets so depressed about body image. Only thing i can say is eat what your body needs to be healthy. If it makes you thiner great. If it doesnt you're a healthy woman. Go cut the.tags outta your cloths.... Or just get naked and come over here. And she is the most active person i know too. Hiking canoeing camping,caring for her stepdaughter a horse, dogs a house work and so much more.

Fuck it. Everyone is beautiful if they are beautiful on the motherfuckin inside.

Ugly comes from the inside too and is often labeled pretty.

Now that healthy thing. I do know a man that needs to lose weight. And i do smack him all the time. Ill call him up just to make sure hes eating right. That man helped me through my year of.living hell and almost died in my damned bed. You best believe I'm gonna smack a big Mac outta his hands. He cared enough to help me find sanity I'm damned sure gonna help him eat better and be here a long ass time. Now dont get me wrong. He'd look silly as a skinny boy. But if he manages that AND IT MADE HIM HAPPY, ill buy him a ton of spedos or a new couch or what ever else made him happy. Cause he's happy... Hell i dont care if he.does lose weight but he better get healthier dammit.

I'm not even rereading this... And i might have to stop being a bitch about people writing from their phones. Someday.

What was i talking about?

Oh yeah, i love boobs.

I love Nina.

That is all....
 
Spectre and Nina thank you for your imput.
Nina Ill even put up with a little hell for the cell phone. And I think we all love boobs, so thanks for that part also.
 
I love Nina.

That is all....
-licks a Dream-
Are Dreamcicles a real thing? Cause i wanna lick you till you melt.

Oh... And hi.
Spectre and Nina thank you for your imput.
Nina Ill even put up with a little hell for the cell phone. And I think we all love boobs, so thanks for that part also.

Anytime.. I feel like babbling you are welcome to thank me for it. Or put me on ignore. Two very good choices to remember on these here message boards.
 
Vivi, I adore you. I do. And I understand everything you are saying. Everything dealing with weight and what should be proper for a person is fucked up.

But let me ask you this...

If a person has the means to be healthy but they choose not to be, is the fault their own? What if they could afford to purchase the healthy food, what if they could get the exercise, yet they do not want to. Are they overweight because of a faulty system or because of themselves?

I refuse to pass judgement on someone regarding their weight or whether I think they are or are not healthy. It's not my place and I am committing harm when I do so.
 
The pretty fey makes a good point.

grins and waves

And Nina? You're just awesome aren't you. :rose:

Nina is made of awesome.. and while I don't consider myself one to kiss butt generally.. I've no shame in sucking up to her. She makes me happy.
 
Wait, did I read boobs? Where are my priorities?
Yes boobs! Its a pornsite woman! No thinking or saying smart stuff unless, you know, that gets you off or makes you happy or something.
The pretty fey makes a good point.

grins and waves

And Nina? You're just awesome aren't you. :rose:

Some people think so, lots dont. So long as those I've made mine still like me and I still love me I'm good with either one.
 
You and brit and dream are determined to turn me pink tonight.

Why yes.. yes we are. The fun part is that we're all doing the same thing independently, imagine what will happen when we actually sit down and conspire.

Yes, I'm rubbing my hands together in a gesture of devious glee.
 
Why yes.. yes we are. The fun part is that we're all doing the same thing independently, imagine what will happen when we actually sit down and conspire.

Yes, I'm rubbing my hands together in a gesture of devious glee.

I really cant imagine you saying that without devious glee... Unless it was in giddy bouncing glee... but no ones talking about cookies or absinthe, yet.
 
And I would add to Vivi's comment by including the genetically modified wheat that is now in every type of bread product and so much more. Foods you wouldn't even associate with it contain wheat germ from this new variety of plant. The genetics were modified to produce greater yield but the side effect is that our bodies cannot properly digest this new wheat. As a result, things like Celiac's disease is rampant. And those big 'beer bellies' on people that is so commonplace? You guessed it....wheat related, as are so many allergies to gluten. It even ties in to un-healthy blood sugar levels that lead to type 2 diabetes.



I think .. and forgive me for adding to this so late, But I think, this is a fascinating subject.. and one that maybe should be thrown out to see what a wider audience thinks. from my point of view I . oh heck hang on someone said it better let me find a quote..

It's too easy. And that's the trap we get caught in. Blaming the person for the problem that is mostly societal related. No offense doll, but you're wrong.

Our infrastructure doesn't always support healthy bodies.

First- we don't know what a healthy body is. Because it's different for every single person. Activities and genetics play a role.

Second- We don't support active lifestyles, most of which are expensive to take up. Our neighborhoods are not all walkable, and we've cut a lot of time out of gym or recess for kids.

Third- the cheapest foods are the most unhealthy foods, usually. Pop and chips and crap. So when you're on a budget... that's what you buy, because it's what you can afford.

Fourth- Our medical healthcare system doesn't support all body sizes when we are only just now beginning to understand that there is no correlation between fat and any disease. Most problems that you get from being fat.. are from lack of movement and not from the cell itself. We are also beginning to understand that fat is necessary especially in women's bodies. And did you know that the BMI calculation was created specifically to find a correlation between body size and piety? Not to mention "weight loss surgeries" are essentially taking a healthy digestive system and making it sick, so that it doesn't work correctly.

So now we have interlocking and interdependent reasons of why that person is fat and to heap more blame upon them, we assign a value system to the size of their body and then tell them over and over.. that if they wanted to fix it they could. They're just lazy.

All of which is fucked up.




+10 billion


All of which is fucked up... completely agree...
 
I read back over this conversation and caught glimpses of something about kissing Nina's butt and sucking and boobs and it just threw me into a tizzie. :eek: ;)
 
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