The Iraqi Bombings

[TonyG]

I'm somewhat surprised no one has already started a thread about this topic.

So, what is your opinion? Is 'W' just trying to drum up support with people who love aggressive measures or was it a necessary strike as he stated?

I guess we have to believe that the Iraqi have been doing the things 'W' stated since we are not privy to that information. Therefore, I would want my people who do the air patrols more protected but I hope this measure doesn't backfire on us.

 

[Angel]

I caught the tail end of a press conference, and I didn't know who was answering the questions. I did however notice how he quite neatly avoided a direct answer to if it was The Prez or not who had ordered the attack. Nice sidestepping manuver.

 

[Nobody Special's wife]

I think we need to mind our own damn business

And hope the blow them selves up

 

[WriterDom]

I'm pretty sure it was in response to a threat, and not blowing up an aspirin factory the day before an impeachment vote. But I could be wrong.

 

[Jade]

THANK YOU

Right on... I was waiting for this topic too!

Sheesh... this is some major stuff to be happening at the beg. of Bush's term too... anyone considered that?

I don't forsee anything major happening... not exactly, but am still concerned as I have CLOSE friends in the reserve... then again, if they are utilizing them... then we are really fucked aren't we?

Anyway, it's a pretty scary thing anytime the Pentagon is involved and my HUGEST (word?) concern is who our "leader" is and how "he" plans on handling it all.

 

[brazenblaze]

I knew someone would bring this up. lol

Isn't the first time we've done this in the last two years, just the first time we've done it outside the 98th parallel(sp).

The whole thing is like two brothers fighting over "their" side of the bedroom...one may not actually step "over" the line but he gets damned close....eventually the other one gets tired of it and just beats the shit out him.

Saddam has been playing games with us for years, it's about time we took the bastard out and got it over with.

*packing DCUs into duffle bag*

 

[SexySpiceAngel]

Okay...

As much as I believe to an extent that we should mind our own business, I don't think it'll happen.

I believe George Bush done right by setting his foot down and laying down the law. It shows he won't take crap from anyone and it's a type of leadership that was not with clinton. Boy it feels good to say former president clinton.

One fact that I think is kinda funny, every bloody time we blow a town or country up, we build it back for them. That out of all things pisses me off. We have better things to do with our money.

Angel De Miguel

 

[brazenblaze]

Re: Okay...

As much as I believe to an extent that we should mind our own business, I don't think it'll happen.

I believe George Bush done right by setting his foot down and laying down the law. It shows he won't take crap from anyone and it's a type of leadership that was not with clinton. Boy it feels good to say former president clinton.

One fact that I think is kinda funny, every bloody time we blow a town or country up, we build it back for them. That out of all things pisses me off. We have better things to do with our money.

Angel De Miguel

AMEN...AMEN AND DOUBLE AMEN!!!!

 

[Lost Soul]

I feel it is time to leave these people alone, along with the Balkins.

 

[Closet Desire]

Keep in mind...

...the US has maintained a military presence in Iraq for over ten years now. Is SH a mad man? Yep. Is he likely to use weapons of mass destruction if he can? Probably. But so can and do a number of other countries. I'm already frightened by the fact that Pakistan and India have nuclear capability.

Support for the military presence is wearing thin and it would be a good move to back off.

 

[Ally C]

The 'global village' has more than its fair share of village idiots. It's a strange kind of logic which decries Saddam's inhumane acts (the invasion of Kuwait, treatment of his own people), but has little or no involvement - and little or nothing to say - about countless other atrocities elsewhere. I have to agree with Closet Desire on this one, the best course of action would be to stay well out of it all. As I understand it, US and British military activity was precipitated without any consensus with the UN etc [this is usually referred to as 'terrorism' in other situations]. It's one thing to be the 'Global Police', but I can't ever see the world being put to rights (and certainly not the Middle East), no matter how good our [alleged] intentions.

As for rebuilding areas we have bombed ... I don't think it's appropriate to demonise entire regions just because they have dictatorships which we have taken action against. If it's purely a question of money, leaving entire countries on their knees suffering after trashing their infrastructure would save millions, if not billions, of dollars. But is this the attitude of civilised nations which proclaim to be the protectors of peace?

Angel ... you say it's 'right' for Bush to 'lay down the law' - but whose law? It's good for the whole world is it? Was it democratically arrived at? It's morally and ethically superior to all other comparable 'laws' and beyond question? Did Florida vote for it?

 

[Thor's Hammer]

just a thought

For those of us that remember, one LBJ started a sad chapter in our history by "sendin in the boys." Almost 58,000 people are not with us today. Are there Texas mentality parallels or is it just payback for Daddy's failure to take Saddam out?

I believe that military power is essential to project and PROTECT the interests of the USA. However, the only people in the world that seem to approve of the recent Iraq bombing are our two close allies - the UK and Israel. Does that tell us something?

Remember, a minority of people in the US "elected" Wubbya President. Those that understand manipulation of public opinion know that - at first blush - a military strike on a "foreign demon" garners widespread public support. Or, am I being too cynical and not taking into consideration that Wubbya is just dumb as a box of rocks?

 

[Ally C]

Re: just a thought

Remember, a minority of people in the US "elected" Wubbya President. Those that understand manipulation of public opinion know that - at first blush - a military strike on a "foreign demon" garners widespread public support. Or, am I being too cynical and not taking into consideration that Wubbya is just dumb as a box of rocks?

I think cynicism is a prerequisite Thor. Any 'media panic' identifies a 'problem', and 'media', being the all-pervasive entity it is these days (think of it as a many headed monster if this helps!), creates a public outcry - appearing as it does to proclaim the 'truth'. This in turn mobilises government to take action (and be seen to take action). The fact that the government 'has to' take action reinforces public fear, the media reports further on this 'fact', and so the cycle continues ...