The Incest Loophole

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The Incest Loophole

By ANDREW VACHSS
Published: November 20, 2005

WHAT if I told you that a father who was regularly raping his 8-year-old daughter could reasonably expect to avoid prison if he were discovered? You'd be outraged, right? But this is a fact of life in New York, thanks to the "incest loophole." And nobody in the Legislature is even trying to change this reprehensible law.

Most citizens agree that child molesting is one of the foulest crimes imaginable. Yet New York's law - much like that of most other states - allows the possibility of privileged treatment for a special class of offender: the perpetrator who is related to his prey. In other words, the penal code gives a discount to child rapists who grow their own victims.

Anyone who believes this to be hyperbole needs only to compare New York's penalty for those who molest an unrelated child with the penalty for those who molest children to whom they are related.

In New York, sex with a child under the age of 11 is a Class B felony, punishable by up to 25 years in prison. The law is indexed appropriately, in the chapter on sex offenses. If, however, the sexually abused child is closely related to the perpetrator, state law provides for radically more lenient treatment. In such cases, the prosecutor may choose to charge the same acts as incest. This is not listed as a sex offense, but instead as an "offense affecting the marital relationship," listed next to adultery in the law books. It is a Class E felony, for which even a convicted offender may be granted probation.

Probation is available because the law considers incest with a child to be a nonviolent crime. But the fact that physical force is rarely required for a parent to violate a child does not make the crime nonviolent. Incest is, most typically, rape-by-extortion, with parents abusing their position to induce compliance from victims whose every aspect of life is under the perpetrators' control. Entitling those who commit such crimes to a legislative get-out-of-jail-free card is indefensible.

In New York, district attorneys are elected officials, so maintaining a high conviction rate is an important political tool. But giving prosecutors the option of bargaining a child sexual abuse charge down to incest invites exploitation and mocks the vaunted principle of justice for all, making children mere property. Even if one chooses to believe that prosecutors would never actually use such a loophole, how does this excuse leaving it on the books? Why should prosecutors and judges have the discretion to give special treatment to those who sexually abuse their own children?

The current law has a curious history. It has been virtually unchanged since it was originally enacted in colonial New York. As with similar laws in other states, it was adopted, virtually intact, from a 16th-century British statute

When they were first written, laws against incest were founded on biblical prohibitions and intended to prevent the conception of genetically impaired children. The paradigm was first cousins marrying, not parents raping their children. The New York incest statute pre-existed by decades any public recognition of child sexual abuse. It has never evolved in recognition of the unsavory but indisputable reality that the overwhelming majority of sexual crimes against children are not committed by strangers.

If New York's "incest loophole" ever went to public referendum, it would be doomed. In fact, most people feel strongly that violation of one's own child should result in an increased punishment, not a reduced one. But this is a stealth law, flying below the radar of public attention. It is evoked only in backroom deals between defense lawyers and prosecutors, never covered by the press.

Any politician who openly supported such a law would be committing career suicide. But because its primary victims cannot contribute to political campaigns, hire lobbyists or vote, no natural constituency to change this law has emerged. Getting legislation passed or changed without an exchange of benefits is nearly impossible.

If we are to finally add reality to the rhetoric of child protection, now is the time. The current statute in New York says that someone is "guilty of incest when he or she marries or engages in sexual intercourse, oral sexual conduct or anal sexual conduct with a person whom he or she knows to be related to him or her." By simply replacing "person" with "adult" in that reference, we would be able to keep the original intent of New York's incest prohibition - as an "offense against the marital relationship," while closing the loophole that now protects a special class of deviant offender.

We're going to elect a new governor soon. We should demand that each candidate pledge to make changing this law a top priority of his administration. Our children's lives depend on it.

Andrew Vachss, a lawyer whose practice is limited to the representation of children, is a member of the advisory boardof the National Association to Protect Children.
 
When I hear about judges or politicians finding excuses for NOT making it illegal to abuse children sexually, it always makes me suspect that that's because they're secretely doing it, too.
 
Svenskaflicka said:
When I hear about judges or politicians finding excuses for NOT making it illegal to abuse children sexually, it always makes me suspect that that's because they're secretely doing it, too.

Yeah, I've been saying that for years.
It makes me sick. :mad:
 
arienette said:
The Incest LoopholeAny politician who openly supported such a law would be committing career suicide. But because its primary victims cannot contribute to political campaigns, hire lobbyists or vote, no natural constituency to change this law has emerged. Getting legislation passed or changed without an exchange of benefits is nearly impossible.

I would try to get all the child victems, who are no longer children, to march/lobby on this point. Not to mention anyone else who feels strongly about this.
 
Tom Collins said:
I would try to get all the child victems, who are no longer children, to march/lobby on this point. Not to mention anyone else who feels strongly about this.

Another board I'm on thought the same thing!
 
Tom Collins said:
I would try to get all the child victems, who are no longer children, to march/lobby on this point. Not to mention anyone else who feels strongly about this.
Sexually Molesting a Child should be a capital offence with the penalty being death. I would personally volunteer to pull the trigger, push the button, plunge the syringe or weiled the axe. There should be NO process for appeal and the sentence should be carried out the night the verdict is desided.

There should be no place in society for perverted mind such as these. Child molestation is not a disease, it is a perversion practiced by weak, egomaniacs and should be dealt with promptly.
 
What I don't get from reading that is why the law hasn't been changed. It's one of the most obvious "bug in the system" situations I've ever heard of. I mentioned in another thread that government easily get over-buerocracized (?) and that's when idiotic things like this can remain far too long.

It should take one proposition saying that statuatory rape always trumps incest and one unanimous (I can't see how it could possibly be voted against) vote in whatever legislative branch it belongs. I mean, really. How slow can the system be?
 
Liar said:
What I don't get from reading that is why the law hasn't been changed. It's one of the most obvious "bug in the system" situations I've ever heard of. I mentioned in another thread that government easily get over-buerocracized (?) and that's when idiotic things like this can remain far too long.

Politicians are paid a salary, but they work for votes. If there is not a voting voice clammoring for a change, change rarely happens. The problem with incest is that the children who suffer the crime are often afraid to speak out because they fear retribution form their more powerful parent and/or they figure that the problem was at least partly their fault. Even when the children grow older, they do not speak out because they feel that if they do people wil know of their shame and the perception wil hurt them.
 
R. Richard said:
Politicians are paid a salary, but they work for votes. If there is not a voting voice clammoring for a change, change rarely happens.
Yeah, but I can't see how bringing the issue to the table and changing it would be anything but an image boost for whoever does it, and for a relatively small amount of work.

Are you saying that an elected official who takes initiative is seen as a bad thing by the voters?
 
How is the law worded exactly is my question and are there cases where they went for the lesser charge whan they COULD have reasonably gone for the greater charge?

better to get a felony on the person than for them to go off scott free.

Also the first law only applies to children 11 and under. The other seems to apply to children of any age including being able to apply to children AFTER tha age of concent (not sure what the age is in new your)

It seems the incest law is more far reaching and would be usable in cases when the first law can not be used.

MOST crimes can be brought up as several differant crimes and the DA determines which charge they'll be able to get to stick.

In the case of say a couple getting divorced and the mother trying to get custody, if the abusive party is willing to plead to incest, the child never has to testify (which could be even more traumatic), the now FELON is forbidden from visitation and has a felony conviction so the mother would have a significantly easier time getting say a restraining order. It might get people who would have been otherwise unwilling to help the DA's office with the stat rape accusation participate and get a better outcome than if no one was willing to testify and the guy got off with nothing.

There are probbaly cases where the incest law is a heck of alot better than not being able to sucessfully prosecut.

~Alex
 
Svenskaflicka said:
When I hear about judges or politicians finding excuses for NOT making it illegal to abuse children sexually, it always makes me suspect that that's because they're secretely doing it, too.

It seems to me that's the only "good" explanaton why this hasn't been changed yet.
 
*just shaking my head* As if molesting children doesn't mess their heads enough, toss in erasing not only their innocence and trust of adults, but also trust of people they love, too? I can't think of anything more dispicable. Adults who prey on children should rot in hell, but those who do it to their own should do so especially painfully.
 
Ugh. Nauseating. I do think Alex has a point about the ugly bargains that sometimes have to be made in order for any punishment to take place at all, but it's very difficult to restrain one's repulsion at the thought that a parent sexually abusing his/her child is somehow being rewarded for victimizing the most trusting target of all.

That said, this part is inaccurate:

The current law has a curious history. It has been virtually unchanged since it was originally enacted in colonial New York. As with similar laws in other states, it was adopted, virtually intact, from a 16th-century British statute

When they were first written, laws against incest were founded on biblical prohibitions and intended to prevent the conception of genetically impaired children. The paradigm was first cousins marrying, not parents raping their children.

Approaches to incest, including its definition, varied widely throughout British history and could include very broad issues (like, for instance, Hamlet's mother marrying her husband's brother) and quite clear-cut parent/child incest. Literary and historical evidence suggests that marriage between first cousins was commonly accepted in some circles of British society for much of history and as recently as the 1890's - see, for example, Wilde's The Importance of Being Earnest, in which no one is shocked that Jack will be marrying his cousin, Gwendolyn. That sort of thing was at times quite encouraged amongst the noble houses in as a means of keeping the blood (and the finances) pure. Thus the British legal paradigm for incest was almost certainly solely not that of cousins marrying but indeed that of sexual contact between persons more closely related.

Shanglan
 
Hey, Andrew Vachss is a writer. He writes hard-boiled detective stuff, and his book Flood was a kind of silly story about a woman hunting down and killing the guy who's abused her friend's daughter.

Even then you could tell this child-incest thing kind of sent him ballistic. You could feel the author losing control in his rage.
 
Laws are often archaic and need to be changed. It wasn't until recently that Arizona changed a few restrictive laws from its territorial days (1909) that banned cohabitation, sodomy, and adultery.
 
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