The I’m not giving up ‘but’ thread

Lit is not a service provider. Lit is a post-it board at the local 7-11 where you can stick up something and hope it gets read.

I disagree. I put up an incest story about a step brother that takes advantage of his sister while she searches for her cheerleader skirt under her bed and stuck it on the 7-11 cork board but the jerks there took it down. Something about being "inappropriate" but obviously they just have no taste in fine literature.
 
I disagree. I put up an incest story about a step brother that takes advantage of his sister while she searches for her cheerleader skirt under her bed and stuck it on the 7-11 cork board but the jerks there took it down. Something about being "inappropriate" but obviously they just have no taste in fine literature.

Did you post it anywhere else? Asking for a friend.
 
In the meantime one of the most popular writers on here submitted a novel just yesterday and will be published in the next few days. Good for them, really, but at some point does it look like favoritism on the part of LitE?
I am not defending @EmilyMiller because she does not need any defending. As you can see, she can take care of herself.

Assuming that the accusation of favoritism is true (which is not). So what?

If I were running this site and had to decide between publishing a great writer with a proven track record of writing great stuff and the kind of stuff I write, I would go with the great writer. Your argument make no sense.

I have had stories stuck in pending. It sucks. It blows. However, I did not ever resent the people that were getting published even if I found their stuff awful.

If you story is stuck, delete and resubmit. It works the majority of the time.

If it is too frustrating, post on another site. This one is free to all (writer and reader). It will be buggy by definition.

Going "Poor me" and insulting a great popular author is not the way to solve the issue. Delete your story and republish it an fucking move on!
 
For fear of another thread on submission purgatory
(snip)
But for the month of the November I’m stepping away (possibly for my sanity) and just sticking to writing, editing what’s waiting, and avoiding the confusion, without making any submissions in the hope something will pull itself back together in the background

It’s a one man stand that’ll largely go unnoticed I do fully appreciate, feel free to shoot me down or support me
It’s a rational position. I doubt that this thread has any potential to blow up :cool:

For what it’s worth, I’d let my current most recent story stay untouched in limbo for a couple of weeks (after two resubmissions, for about a month in total), when it suddenly published. For all the discussion, it’s been hard to see a pattern in ‘the glitch’, other than a consistent frustration from affected authors over poor site communication.

I submitted another story yesterday (my time) and it was approved within a few hours for publication on Sunday. The approval time was well after midnight in the eastern US. Taken together with other indicators like the apparently reduced number of ‘sweeps’ for Halloween, I think we could reasonably assume that the site owners are trying to restore normality but are still coping with a large backlog and workload. Since the submission glitch hasn’t been acknowledged, we don’t know if any technical contributor has been fixed.

If you step away, enjoy the fresh air! Peace and love to all.
 
As someone mentioned before, in this case, whitelisting and favoritism look exactly the same.

You speak of X and Y, but as you can see, no one knows what that X is. If there were clear criteria for getting into a whitelist, if there were ANY transparency on this website for a change, then you'd be right. But there isn't. We are just throwing random speculation here, all of us.
This sounds like a really fun experiment to design and is also why it's so important to have studies peer reviewed or even better pre-register them and do the peer review ahead of time so that you can ensure that your methods will answer the question you want them to.

So we'd need a third group - a prolific writer who has never broken any rules but is never-the-less potentially not seeing faster publishing times.

We'd also then need to collect average publishing times as a "manipulation" check for our quasi-experiment.

I mean, ultimately we're not doing it, but it's still an interesting thought exercise.

So really, good for her and for some others whose stories go through so fast. It's not their fault that they are on a whitelist, as silly as that sounds, assuming one exists.
My point is, be happy for them when people get published quickly, and empathize with them when they don't. We are all on the same side.
We absolutely agree on this. (Emphasis added because YES!)

Once again, there's only one guilty party here, one that won't reply to tags, PMs, and withholds information about literally everything.
I've moved my thoughts on this particular aspects to the "controversial opinions" thread in part because of the comment I posted immediately prior.
 
I submitted another story yesterday (my time) and it was approved within a few hours for publication on Sunday. The approval time was well after midnight in the eastern US. Taken together with other indicators like the apparently reduced number of ‘sweeps’ for Halloween, I think we could reasonably assume that the site owners are trying to restore normality but are still coping with a large backlog and workload.
I'd say that this is an inaccurate conclusion. It goes against the numbers and against what many people are reporting.
 
I disagree. I put up an incest story about a step brother that takes advantage of his sister while she searches for her cheerleader skirt under her bed and stuck it on the 7-11 cork board but the jerks there took it down. Something about being "inappropriate" but obviously they just have no taste in fine literature.
Or, they took it home to read later.
 
Thanks - I'd missed that thread. I agree - those numbers aren't good. It would be nice to have visibilty of the queue to see if the submission rate has dropped in respose to the approval issues.
No, its Muriel.
Off topic I know, but if you ever have the chance to see the newish musical based on the film, please do! Hilarious and very moving IMHO.

 
I'd guess that the problem lies more in glitchiness than favoritism. It's a combination of an increase in stories being submitted and ongoing glitchiness. I experienced significant delay a year ago, and it turned out, according to them, that it was just a glitch. An error. There was nothing wrong with my story. It was annoying but everything worked out in the end.

As far as comparing Lit to other types of things, the only problem with that comparison is the absence of attractive options. I'm better off submitting a story, and waiting, than not submitting it at all, or submitting it someplace where I'll get a tiny fraction of the readers.
@SimonDoom, et al,
I'm going to go with Simon on this one. A computer based site this large, with such a large base, going back so long and containing so much information is a prime ground for "glitchiness". It's a pretty common saying in I.T. - "The more complicated the system the more things can go wrong", kind of like new cars!

I have been a member since 2019 as a reader, started publishing this year, I have, I believe, around 300 posts and around 10 published stories. When I submit I always upload from an MS Word Doc, never from writing within the Lit editor. I pick "Genre" and use as many tags as I can think of that are even vaguely relevant to the story. I seem to not have to wait more than a few days for the story to go up.

I don't think I'm a "favoured" author. Lucky maybe.
Deepest respects and feeling the pain for others,
D.
 
@SimonDoom, et al,
I'm going to go with Simon on this one. A computer based site this large, with such a large base, going back so long and containing so much information is a prime ground for "glitchiness". It's a pretty common saying in I.T. - "The more complicated the system the more things can go wrong", kind of like new cars!

I have been a member since 2019 as a reader, started publishing this year, I have, I believe, around 300 posts and around 10 published stories. When I submit I always upload from an MS Word Doc, never from writing within the Lit editor. I pick "Genre" and use as many tags as I can think of that are even vaguely relevant to the story. I seem to not have to wait more than a few days for the story to go up.

I don't think I'm a "favoured" author. Lucky maybe.
Deepest respects and feeling the pain for others,
D.
If it were mere glitchiness, then resubmitting once or twice would have resulted in everyone's story being processed within hours.
Yet we've seen authors claim that even after resubmitting once or twice, they are weeks into the queue. And other authors report having a more or less consistently low approval times.

From everything we've seen here, there is a high probability that a whitelist/privileged list exists whose criteria is obscure and known only to Laurel.
 
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