The (Human) Pet Thread

[00Syd]

So of course, I am translating my desires into fiction myself. My characters are getting real complex real fast, and my butch dyke pup is usually the alpha in the relationship. Her partner is shy and soft-spoken, a perfect dog owner, much to the surprise of both of them. My pup would never have gone into this space if they had never met.

So thank you everyone for your wonderful insights and frank discussion

That sounds like a really interesting dynamic, and I'd be interested in reading your story once it's completed

 

[00Syd]

On fetlife, there is a discussion going on in one of the NYC groups about whether it's possible to be owned without being a slave, and this was one of my responses:

Well, I for one think that you can totally be owned without being a slave.

I mean, a goldfish is owned but it isn't a slave to it's owners will or anything. It's a fucking goldfish.

And then I said:

That's actually my relationship, in a nutshell. Only not so much a goldfish, and much more of a human.

So. Mmm... Yeah.

 

[Homburg]

I mean, a goldfish is owned but it isn't a slave to it's owners will or anything. It's a fucking goldfish.

Heh, that's brilliant, wow.

 

[Stella_Omega]

That sounds like a really interesting dynamic, and I'd be interested in reading your story once it's completed

isn't it? And so many of the things that Bi Bunny, you, and now Bijou have said are so similar to the way this was all playing out in my (mostly unpracticed) mind.

Hello to everyone, by the way! I didn't mean to just jump into a thread before even introducing myself...

*approaches cautiously with a gently waving tail*

 

[00Syd]

Heh, that's brilliant, wow.

*Bows*

isn't it? And so many of the things that Bi Bunny, you, and now Bijou have said are so similar to the way this was all playing out in my (mostly unpracticed) mind.

Hello to everyone, by the way! I didn't mean to just jump into a thread before even introducing myself...

*approaches cautiously with a gently waving tail*

Welcome to the thread

 

[BiBunny]

isn't it? And so many of the things that Bi Bunny, you, and now Bijou have said are so similar to the way this was all playing out in my (mostly unpracticed) mind.

Hello to everyone, by the way! I didn't mean to just jump into a thread before even introducing myself...

*approaches cautiously with a gently waving tail*

Yay, welcome! I look forward to reading your story when you finish with it, by the way.

 

[Stella_Omega]

Yay, welcome! I look forward to reading your story when you finish with it, by the way.

Thanks!

One thing I want to touch on is this sensation of having such a powerful beast under one's control-- knowing that, if it wanted to, it could turn on one. There might be a bit of thrill-seeking hidden away there... Does that resonate with anyone here?

 

[unpredictablebijou]

Thanks!

One thing I want to touch on is this sensation of having such a powerful beast under one's control-- knowing that, if it wanted to, it could turn on one. There might be a bit of thrill-seeking hidden away there... Does that resonate with anyone here?

-grinning like a fucking maniac-

oh FUCK yeah.

It's too late in the evening for me to be any more articulate than that. but yes. O hell yes.

 

[Stella_Omega]

-grinning like a fucking maniac-

oh FUCK yeah.

It's too late in the evening for me to be any more articulate than that. but yes. O hell yes.

LOL! Say no more m'lady, say no more!

 

[unpredictablebijou]

LOL! Say no more m'lady, say no more!

*grins* ah, but now that I'm awake, I shall indeed say more, in the hope that it might give you some meat for your story.

I was a tall child, and always felt like I towered over all the other kids, so as I began to be attracted to relationships, I tended toward the larger types; big guys, strong women, people who could make me feel smaller, more cute and diminutive the way I had always wished I could be.

But there's a power dynamic within that contrast that I think appealed to me as well; dominating someone smaller than I am sometimes has a squickiness for me (no judgment here on anyone else; that's just my thing) because I feel like there might be a 'bullying' aspect to it. I don't know if that makes sense to others, but that's where I ended up landing. Or maybe it's just too easy, and I like more of a challenge. I dunno.

It's a question of will, of surrender. I want to be able to trust that someone is absolutely there because he wants to be, not because I'm forcing him. I want him to admit, over and over, that this is what he wants.

In bondage, even, I have this game I play. I don't tend to tie anyone up in a way he couldn't get loose from if he truly wanted to. The challenge then becomes one of surrender, not of the physical self, but of the true Will.

I love to think about the dynamic of saying to someone far bigger and stronger than me: "You're not liking this? You want it to stop? You don't really want this to happen? Then walk away. Free yourself, right now, and walk the fuck out. You can get loose, you know you can. In a heartbeat you could just make it stop.... I notice you're staying. That means you like it, right? And you want me to do it more? This is what you really want?..."

And so on.

 

[Stella_Omega]

Evil woman, wow!

 

[BiBunny]

Thanks!

One thing I want to touch on is this sensation of having such a powerful beast under one's control-- knowing that, if it wanted to, it could turn on one. There might be a bit of thrill-seeking hidden away there... Does that resonate with anyone here?

I don't know if I count as a powerful beast or not, but the Masterly One has been known to use the leashed tigress analogy for me occasionally. Cliched, yes, but he seems to like it for some reason. Who knows?

 

[Stella_Omega]

I don't know if I count as a powerful beast or not, but the Masterly One has been known to use the leashed tigress analogy for me occasionally. Cliched, yes, but he seems to like it for some reason. Who knows?

You can probably trust him in this as in every other thing-- right?

 

[unpredictablebijou]

I don't know if I count as a powerful beast or not, but the Masterly One has been known to use the leashed tigress analogy for me occasionally. Cliched, yes, but he seems to like it for some reason. Who knows?

-grin- Stella

and Bunny,

I think you do, in a sense, but here's my take. You may or may not be physically strong and powerful (my sense is yes, at least to an extent) but you have an amazingly strong will. So for you to acquiesce to domination must be something you agree to, something you offer willingly because you believe you're making a fair exchange for something worthwhile, whatever that is.

I remember seeing a similar sentiment from my Pet, a long time ago. I'll butcher this, and hopefully he'll weigh in and expand on it, but here's what I interpreted in his idea.

He talked about how he is admittedly strong-willed, and that he saw a choice to submit to someone as something he offered because he felt like that was a valuable thing to give. That is, 'I don't have to submit to you, and could resist if I chose to, but you are worthy of my submission because of what you offer and who you are.' It's the idea that one's will can't be demanded or taken, but must be offered. Or at least, in our individual dynamic, that's the way it works best for us.

It's rewarding for him in the sense that he finds me worth surrendering to, and he understands that I value that as a deliberate choice he makes, not something that I force from him.

And it's rewarding for me for the dynamic I described above. I need to be able to hear, again and again, that I'm being chosen. It's one reason I create the poly relationship structure I do, as well, in the sense, for example, of never legally marrying anyone: I don't ever want anyone to be "trapped" with me, for even an hour, let alone a lifetime. I insist on being purposefully chosen, every single day, and therefore I insist on a dynamic in which people are free to leave if they decide they want to.

That's true of the macrocosm as well as the microcosm. My mates and I 're-marry' each other once a year, and there isn't an assumption that we will say yes again, or that we won't shift something in our arrangement at that time. We do tend to sit down for at least an informal "how has the year been and do you want to do this again" sort of conversation at that point. Similarly, in any given individual scene, I want for there to be a clear option that someone could stop and walk away whenever they choose. People stay in a room, in the ropes, or in my life, out of their own free will, not because I make them.

I suspect you're rather similar that way (feel free to tell me if I'm wrong here): no one could make you do something you didn't want to do, not for long, anyway. But if they inspire you, if it feels like they deserve you, then your loyalty, and perhaps even your submission, knows very few bounds.

 

[Arkhilokhus]

He talked about how he is admittedly strong-willed, and that he saw a choice to submit to someone as something he offered because he felt like that was a valuable thing to give. That is, 'I don't have to submit to you, and could resist if I chose to, but you are worthy of my submission because of what you offer and who you are.' It's the idea that one's will can't be demanded or taken, but must be offered. Or at least, in our individual dynamic, that's the way it works best for us.

It's rewarding for him in the sense that he finds me worth surrendering to, and he understands that I value that as a deliberate choice he makes, not something that I force from him.

The only thing I might add to this is the way in which my Mistress provides me with direction. I do indeed have a strong will, as well as certain physical and mental gifts. However, I strongly lack ambition; left to my own devices, I tend to drift along aimlessly. It is through my voluntary submission to my Mistress that I can find direction, by making her goals and ambitions mine. There is a surrender there, of course, one predicated on my deep respect for Her as a person. I might even say it involves offering Her ownership over me, although around here we tend to talk of Ladies and thanes.

 

[sunandshadow]

In bondage, even, I have this game I play. I don't tend to tie anyone up in a way he couldn't get loose from if he truly wanted to. The challenge then becomes one of surrender, not of the physical self, but of the true Will.

I love to think about the dynamic of saying to someone far bigger and stronger than me: "You're not liking this? You want it to stop? You don't really want this to happen? Then walk away. Free yourself, right now, and walk the fuck out. You can get loose, you know you can. In a heartbeat you could just make it stop.... I notice you're staying. That means you like it, right? And you want me to do it more? This is what you really want?..."

This is the same reason that being ordered to hold still seems much more interesting to me than actual bondage.

 

[Stella_Omega]

This is the same reason that being ordered to hold still seems much more interesting to me than actual bondage.

Well, it all depends...

 

[Homburg]

I don't know if I count as a powerful beast or not, but the Masterly One has been known to use the leashed tigress analogy for me occasionally. Cliched, yes, but he seems to like it for some reason. Who knows?

There is a reason why cliches keep getting used - sometimes they're really worthy.

 

[celticsunspiral]

I was a tall child, and always felt like I towered over all the other kids, so as I began to be attracted to relationships, I tended toward the larger types; big guys, strong women, people who could make me feel smaller, more cute and diminutive the way I had always wished I could be.

I always had the exactly opposite issue because I was always not only short (5' 0")but small. Guys would carry me around and just basically get me to do whatever they wanted, not because they forced me to but because I would always give in. I like to feel small and taken care of so being with Tall Men just flips my switch. Now I am older and more secure in who I am, also I have filled out some, lol. But still I crave that ability to cuddle on a lap which reminds me of being young. I guess what I want is what you have been discussing here I don't' want to be treated as a child in a Daddy/Little Girl relationship, but I have some of theses child like tendencies. I also love being called pet or kitten and have "pet like" qualities. So far this thread is the best description I have seen.

 

[BiBunny]

You can probably trust him in this as in every other thing-- right?

No comment.

-grin- Stella

and Bunny,

I think you do, in a sense, but here's my take. You may or may not be physically strong and powerful (my sense is yes, at least to an extent) but you have an amazingly strong will. So for you to acquiesce to domination must be something you agree to, something you offer willingly because you believe you're making a fair exchange for something worthwhile, whatever that is.

I remember seeing a similar sentiment from my Pet, a long time ago. I'll butcher this, and hopefully he'll weigh in and expand on it, but here's what I interpreted in his idea.

He talked about how he is admittedly strong-willed, and that he saw a choice to submit to someone as something he offered because he felt like that was a valuable thing to give. That is, 'I don't have to submit to you, and could resist if I chose to, but you are worthy of my submission because of what you offer and who you are.' It's the idea that one's will can't be demanded or taken, but must be offered. Or at least, in our individual dynamic, that's the way it works best for us.

It's rewarding for him in the sense that he finds me worth surrendering to, and he understands that I value that as a deliberate choice he makes, not something that I force from him.

And it's rewarding for me for the dynamic I described above. I need to be able to hear, again and again, that I'm being chosen. It's one reason I create the poly relationship structure I do, as well, in the sense, for example, of never legally marrying anyone: I don't ever want anyone to be "trapped" with me, for even an hour, let alone a lifetime. I insist on being purposefully chosen, every single day, and therefore I insist on a dynamic in which people are free to leave if they decide they want to.

That's true of the macrocosm as well as the microcosm. My mates and I 're-marry' each other once a year, and there isn't an assumption that we will say yes again, or that we won't shift something in our arrangement at that time. We do tend to sit down for at least an informal "how has the year been and do you want to do this again" sort of conversation at that point. Similarly, in any given individual scene, I want for there to be a clear option that someone could stop and walk away whenever they choose. People stay in a room, in the ropes, or in my life, out of their own free will, not because I make them.

I suspect you're rather similar that way (feel free to tell me if I'm wrong here): no one could make you do something you didn't want to do, not for long, anyway. But if they inspire you, if it feels like they deserve you, then your loyalty, and perhaps even your submission, knows very few bounds.

That sounds about right.

The only thing I might add to this is the way in which my Mistress provides me with direction. I do indeed have a strong will, as well as certain physical and mental gifts. However, I strongly lack ambition; left to my own devices, I tend to drift along aimlessly. It is through my voluntary submission to my Mistress that I can find direction, by making her goals and ambitions mine. There is a surrender there, of course, one predicated on my deep respect for Her as a person. I might even say it involves offering Her ownership over me, although around here we tend to talk of Ladies and thanes.

As does this.

There is a reason why cliches keep getting used - sometimes they're really worthy.

That's what he says, too. I'ma need the two of you to never be in the same room together because I can't see that ending well for me.

 

[Stella_Omega]

back to the more physical manifestations (I totally dig the fetish aspects of all play)
Check out this sweet boy;

 

[00Syd]

back to the more physical manifestations (I totally dig the fetish aspects of all play)
Check out this sweet boy;

Oh man yeah, we recently got some mitts like that. Hottest things.

 

[Stella_Omega]

Well, here's a short pup fic, first in a series-- I am sure;

Emily and The Big Dog

Huh... I've only just noticed how often leashes and collars and animal imagery gets into my fiction!

 

[unpredictablebijou]

Stella, it is a strong testimony to your skill as a writer that I am so totally not into animal play and yet that scene was completely engaging.

And it's hilarious, besides. Very nicely done. Do keep us posted on the arrival of the rest of the story...

 

[Stella_Omega]

Stella, it is a strong testimony to your skill as a writer that I am so totally not into animal play and yet that scene was completely engaging.

And it's hilarious, besides. Very nicely done. Do keep us posted on the arrival of the rest of the story...

Thank you!

I hope to keep that humor, but the story has the potential to get a bit dark... And it will be waaaay more with the pr0n than this first episode is.