The Greek God

[pink_silk_glove]

Our chief weapon is ambidexterity. And stamina.

TWO weapons ... ambidexterity and stamina ... and fanatical devotion to Ellen Degeneres - THREE weapons!

 

[onehitwanda]

Ellen Degeneres

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[Jackie.Hikaru]

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Ooh are we talking about Greek myths here?

 

[onehitwanda]

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I had all sorts of very confusing feelings over this.

 

[StillStunned]

I had all sorts of very confusing feelings over this.

Me too. Six years of classical education refused to accept that blonde hair on a Greek woman.

 

[onehitwanda]

Me too. Six years of classical education refused to accept that blonde hair on a Greek woman.

The irony of course being that many Greeks were blonde or strawberry-blonde. Achilles is often described as being "golden-haired".

 

[StillStunned]

The irony of course being that many Greeks were blonde or strawberry-blonde. Achilles is often described as being "golden-haired".

And Helen of Troy. But probably an idealised "OMG, they're half-divine so they must be different!"

Or not. There were plenty of population shifts in early times. A single blond tribe can leave their mark for centuries after. Apparently a third of Spain's population are naturally blond, even though the Visigoths were conquered 1350 years ago.

 

[pink_silk_glove]

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Her show stinks but her standup is actually quite good.

 

[UnpublishedEroticaWriter]

I feel a Butlerian Jihad might be in order.

The next biggest gay scandal: Bert and Ernie.

 

[UnpublishedEroticaWriter]

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Kiss already! Let's see some girl-on-girl action!

 

[ShamBaLa]

Not sure where you are with the inquiry. Try reading

Pleasures of Ancient Debauchery.​

Have to search lit for it. My phone won't let me link it. Don't over think. But if it is a Greek story don't use Roman God names. For characters there are sites with list of authentic Greek or Roman personal names.

 

[SimonDoom]

The next biggest gay scandal: Bert and Ernie.

It's a toss-up between those two and Skipper and Gilligan.

 

[SinclairGroupLLP]

It's a toss-up between those two and Skipper and Gilligan.

No Kirk and Spock?

 

[NuclearFairy]

It's a toss-up between those two and Skipper and Gilligan.

Well.... Bert and Ernie's creator came out and said that they were based on him and his partner. But then Sesame Street insisted that muppets don't have sexualities no matter what their inspiration was. :/ I don't think Kermit and Miss. Piggy, Gonzo and Camilla, or Mama Bear and Papa Bear would agree.

 

[SimonDoom]

No Kirk and Spock?

I never got gay vibes from them. Kirk was the ultimate intergalactic skirt chaser.

 

[MetaBob]

Greek mythos is too complicated for anyone to help you with a short-form response in a thread. And nothing we can tell you will help as much as doing the research. Also, you need to know enough about what you're asking to tell if you're receiving anything helpful. Zeus is the top dog, Hades rules the underworld, and Aphrodite is the goddess of love, beauty, pleasure, and passion. Odipus has mommy issues. Artemis is a killer huntress. Apollo is her brother. Athena is the goddess of War (and a few lesser things, like wisdom, but if you were truly wise, why'd you be fighting in the first place?). Demeter was the goddess of agriculture, and the ship used to transport Dracula to England. Hera was Zeus's old lady and the goddess of marriage. She's done a piss poor job of it too!

My "Cascade Fire" is the story of Aphrodite and The Odyssey, retold. In it, Aphrodite (Setenaya, Qetesh, Ishtar, Astarte, Inanna) is the goddess of lust, beauty, and war (she starts wars more than ends them). Just as she was in mythology. She is the villain of that story though she doesn't seem to be, a vengeful, manipulative character who plays the long game with immortal skill, though I took a while for the reveal in chapters 9 and 10. We learn more about her and her sister in Crossings, which is my Book 3. Eventually, if I get around to it, it will become a pentalogy. The groundwork is laid, the follow-through uncertain.

George R.R. Martin (among others to antiquity) understood that the Goddess is triune (or tripartite): Maiden, Mother, and Crone. I left out the Crone part for my Aphrodite character.

 

[M_K_Babalon]

Well, I'm writing in a world where I'm frequently mixing up both Greek and Roman gods, so I've looked up quite a bit about both. But I haven't gotten around to looking up muses yet. The charities/graces yeah because Hephaestus' second wife was one, and Volcan was raised by a Nereid so I needed to know more about him. However, they have some pretty odd ideas about the graces, one of them is named blossom, so I could see the muses being a bit off kilter from what modern society thinks of as a muse.

What I remember from my research could easily fill an essay, and I can't entirely guarantee that it'll be accurate and not just something I twisted for my story. Anything you want to hear about in particular though?

The Roman gods are the Greek gods.They asked to worship them, and gave them their own names, because they didn't have gods to worship.

 

[TheWritingGroup]

The Roman gods are the Greek gods.They asked to worship them, and gave them their own names, because they didn't have gods to worship.

This turns out not to be the case.

The Romans had a much more Indo-European set of gods before Greek influence. They adopted/adapted Greek legends and whatnot for their divinities during the Republic (the Interpretatio Graeca), in addition to serious Etruscan influences long before that. The Greeks had already been heavily influenced by Middle Eastern cultures. For example, Aphrodite has characteristics of Anat and Ishtar.

Later, the Romans had a pretty big cult of Isis themselves before adopting a newer Middle Eastern religion, Christianity. They were always happy to adopt (take over) anything foreign they thought was cool.

The Greeks (and Etruscans and Egyptians and Judeans and others) strongly influenced Roman religious practice, but Rome didn't somehow come into existence with no culture of its own.

--Rocco

 

[NuclearFairy]

The Roman gods are the Greek gods.They asked to worship them, and gave them their own names, because they didn't have gods to worship.

No, they're really not. The Roman gods are nothing like they were originally because they kept pulling in traits of the gods of the people that they would conquer. The Greek gods have the heaviest and most recent influence and have a lot of their stories adapted over but they're not the same thing.

Mars for instance is a god of farmers (grain farmers to be precise) as well as victorious warfare, whereas Ares is simply a god of violent warfare.

Then you have the whole goddess of love debacle. A lot of those stories were lifted directly from Greek myths, but they would never take the one where the divorce happened because the Romans refused to allow divorce. So Venus and Vulcan are still married, whereas Hephaestus managed to marry a Grace after his divorce.

Also, Vulcan is the god of volcanoes and smiths. Hephaestus is primarily the god of smiths, but he is also the god of every other craft in existence.

There are several more examples I could find if I wanted, those're just the ones I could think of off the top of my head and do minimal fact checking to make sure I'm remembering right.