The grand Minnaepolis experiment.

[bellisarius]

Minneapolis is set to vote on essentially getting rid of the police dept. What could possibly go wrong with that idea?

No more Popo.

 

[LukSkyFokker]

Minneapolis is set to vote on essentially getting rid of the police dept. What could possibly go wrong with that idea?

No more Popo.

Cool poutrage. Now read the fucking link, Ishtard.

 

[Bud_Spencer]

Minneapolis is set to vote on essentially getting rid of the police dept. What could possibly go wrong with that idea?

No more Popo.

Good and hard, many, good and hard.

 

[ll74]

Minneapolis is set to vote on essentially getting rid of the police dept. What could possibly go wrong with that idea?

No more Popo.

They have the same budget with and without the proposal.

What could go wrong? Apparently your literacy skills.

 

[pecksniff]

Minneapolis is set to vote on essentially getting rid of the police dept. What could possibly go wrong with that idea?

No more Popo.

Residents will vote in November on a ballot question that would change the city's charter and create a department of public safety, a proposal that has attracted thousands of local supporters but also fierce community opposition as well as national attention and money. City officials must finalize the ballot question and submit it by Friday.

The department would use a “comprehensive public health approach” and include licensed peace officers “if necessary.” It would also no longer be under the sole control of the mayor’s office, giving greater oversight to the city council.

Not too scary. Nothing for crooks in that town to get excited about.

 

[YDB95]

This, of course, is exactly what "Defund the police" has really been about all along. But how could you rally the deplorables with the sensible and boring truth?

 

[Champakian]

So, judging by the topic, the link and the reaction
it is very discernible that the reply is once again,
style trumps substance and by shuffling the deck
chairs, we can somehow keep this behemoth afloat...

The police "reform," the faux defunding and the
alligator-tears consternation over the police
is nothing more than window-dressing.

It turns out, that despite the mouthings of those
who purport to be the leaders and spokespeople
for the protection of the little people from the police,
the little people actually want a strong police presence
because they know that those self-appointed leaders
(and "community organizers") have been fighting diligently
against the racism and stigma of the incarceration and
punishment of criminals, fighting for their release back
into the general population in the name of Social Justice.

 

[CornusKousa]

Not too scary. Nothing for crooks in that town to get excited about.

That must be why they're dealing with a crime wave.....that will just keep getting worse the more puss puss the left is about crime and letting criminals do whatever the fuck they want so long as they fit the correct demographic narrative.

This, of course, is exactly what "Defund the police" has really been about all along. But how could you rally the deplorables with the sensible and boring truth?

Right....getting rid of the cops.

They did. Let us not forget this is a re-do after their knee jerk attempt to abolish the police didn't go so well.

 

[WillJ8787]

Minneapolis is set to vote on essentially getting rid of the police dept. What could possibly go wrong with that idea?

No more Popo.

Nothing....it is for them to decide. I never knew Minnesota was such a progressive liberal place. Definitely gonna tell liberal folks that it's a place to consider moving to.

 

[Champakian]

How could you not know that?

 

[CornusKousa]

Nothing....it is for them to decide. I never knew Minnesota was such a progressive liberal place. Definitely gonna tell liberal folks that it's a place to consider moving to.

Nothing liberal about anarchism or the authoritarian trash you and yours push.

Can't hate liberty the way you and yours do and be a liberal.

And we are moderate....not liberal, we don't have legal weed, but we have ALL the guns and get to drive our race cars on the roads.

But we are moving further away from liberal every time Minneapolis gets more "progressive".

 

[CornusKousa]

How could you not know that?

Probably because we aren't a liberal or a lefty state.

We're infuriatingly moderate and purple.

 

[Champakian]

It's purple, at best...




... and no, I don't mean when The Vikings are in town.

 

[WillJ8787]

Nothing liberal about anarchism and the authoritarian trash you and yours push.

Can't hate liberty the way you do and be a liberal.

And we are moderate....not liberal, and moving further away from liberal every time Minneapolis gets more "progressive".

Citizens deciding what is right for them...that doesn't sound like anarchy or Authoritarianism to me. Sounds like liberty. Your neighborhood sounds pretty good...maybe you should check out the Peace officer job as an employment opportunity?

 

[CornusKousa]

Citizens deciding what is right for them...that doesn't sound like anarchy or Authoritarianism to me.

Because it's democracy you're describing.

Which has a long history of authoritarianism and abuse....notice our Bill of Rights reads as a list of shit our "democracy" ain't allowed to do??

Sounds like liberty.

Authoritarians like you don't understand the concept.

Your neighborhood sounds pretty good...maybe you should check out the Peace officer job as an employment opportunity?

My neighborhood is good...because it's 198 miles the fuck away from that leftist shit hole called "Minneapolis"

It's purple, at best...

... and no, I don't mean when The Vikings are in town.

It's arguably the most purple state in the union for the last few years and currently.

Just one of those razor tight but highly contested suburbs, or smaller cities and the state shifts. I thought we would see a break in 2020 one way or the other, but the red/blue split within the state just got tighter.

A few hundred votes across a couple suburbs and Minnesota starts going red and High Lord Walz is out. The other way and "progress" starts pulling the guns out to force all that "progress".

 

[bellisarius]

Minneapolis is actually relatively small, 430K population while the greater area has a population in the 4 million neighborhood. This 'experiment' is essentially creating a 'sanctuary city' for the criminal element. The problem is that the wealth is out in the surrounding suburbs and these suburbs are not going to allow the crime to spread into their areas.

Further, much like San Francisco small businesses are going to either shutter or flee to the suburbs thereby eroding Minneapolis's tax base. So the question is, "how long can Minneapolis afford this grand experiment?"

I don't wish them failure. I just can't see how flooding the neighborhoods with 'organizers' and social workers is going to solve the problems while employment opportunities dwindle.

 

[WillJ8787]

Because it's democracy you're describing.

Which has a long history of authoritarianism and abuse....notice our Bill of Rights reads as a list of shit our "democracy" ain't allowed to do??



Authoritarians like you don't understand the concept.



My neighborhood is good...because it's 198 miles the fuck away from that leftist shit hole called "Minneapolis"



It's arguably the most purple state in the union for the last few years and currently.

Just one of those razor tight but highly contested suburbs, or smaller cities and the state shifts. I thought we would see a break in 2020 one way or the other, but the red/blue split within the state just got tighter.

A few hundred votes across a couple suburbs and Minnesota starts going red and High Lord Walz is out. The other way and "progress" starts pulling the guns out to force all that "progress".

Yes, most authoritarian folks don't like the bill of rights or democracy...out of which comes liberty.

I know "they" told you liberty comes from God.... blahahahaha!

Maybe you folks just can't get along with anyone else?

 

[CornusKousa]

Minneapolis is actually relatively small, 430K population while the greater area has a population in the 4 million neighborhood. This 'experiment' is essentially creating a 'sanctuary city' for the criminal element. The problem is that the wealth is out in the surrounding suburbs and these suburbs are not going to allow the crime to spread into their areas.

Yes...except the part about the spread of crime...kinda.

They are, because the PD's of these suburb cities are scared too....they are being more reserved in their policing to the extent it's difficult to even get the cops to come and remove a home invader out of your home.

Yea, that was in Eden Prairie where my SIL lives.

They're like SF cops 3 years ago....they'll come fill out a report when it's all over, but they won't do much else.

Like you said though, this is causing problems in the burbs.

But how will they vote next fall or in 24?? Probably progressive blue, because they don't want to be RACIST!!

Further, much like San Francisco small businesses are going to either shutter or flee to the suburbs thereby eroding Minneapolis's tax base. So the question is, "how long can Minneapolis afford this grand experiment?"

Already deep into that.

IDK...how long is the "covid crisis" money going to last and will there be more big money thrown at the states is where that answer lies I think. Kicking that can down that road.. I think is foolish, but hey, Minneapolis wants it, they get it.

I don't wish them failure. I just can't see how flooding the neighborhoods with 'organizers' and social workers is going to solve the problems while employment opportunities dwindle.

It won't, but it will drive up the value of my uppity small town property...so I'm hoping MN tips blue and goes full "progressive" so I can make a grip off their economic destruction and bail just like I did with California.

 

[zipman]

Minneapolis is set to vote on essentially getting rid of the police dept. What could possibly go wrong with that idea?

No more Popo.

Did you even read the article?

 

[CornusKousa]

Yes, most authoritarian folks don't like the bill of rights or democracy...out of which comes liberty.

Some liberties are protected by the BoR, from democracy.

And democracy is more often than not the enemy of liberty... that's why the Bill of Rights restricts it.

And authoritarians love democracy, it validates their authority.

Again, why the BoR RESTRICTS democracy.

Liberty comes from the restriction of authority, especially the authority of democracy.

I know "they" told you liberty comes from God.... blahahahaha!

You fantasize, you don't know much though.

Maybe you folks just can't get along with anyone else?

We aren't the totalitarian control freaks totally incapable of 'live and let live' and demanding absolute compliance and conformity nation wide.

 

[ll74]

Minneapolis is actually relatively small, 430K population while the greater area has a population in the 4 million neighborhood. This 'experiment' is essentially creating a 'sanctuary city' for the criminal element. The problem is that the wealth is out in the surrounding suburbs and these suburbs are not going to allow the crime to spread into their areas.

Further, much like San Francisco small businesses are going to either shutter or flee to the suburbs thereby eroding Minneapolis's tax base. So the question is, "how long can Minneapolis afford this grand experiment?"

I don't wish them failure. I just can't see how flooding the neighborhoods with 'organizers' and social workers is going to solve the problems while employment opportunities dwindle.

Adding resources for situations that don't require the police has been proven to work in several west coast cities, at reducing non criminal responses

I see you finally realized that they aren't reducing police staff so have changed your whine...good job.

 

[ll74]

So, judging by the topic, the link and the reaction
it is very discernible that the reply is once again,
style trumps substance and by shuffling the deck
chairs, we can somehow keep this behemoth afloat...

The police "reform," the faux defunding and the
alligator-tears consternation over the police
is nothing more than window-dressing.

It turns out, that despite the mouthings of those
who purport to be the leaders and spokespeople
for the protection of the little people from the police,
the little people actually want a strong police presence
because they know that those self-appointed leaders
(and "community organizers") have been fighting diligently
against the racism and stigma of the incarceration and
punishment of criminals, fighting for their release back
into the general population in the name of Social Justice.

They aren't losing any police

 

[LukSkyFokker]

Have you noticed that it's only the Trumplicans who couldn't comprehend the article, including the OP?

 

[WillJ8787]

Have you noticed that it's only the Trumplicans who couldn't comprehend the article, including the OP?

Yep....they are the authoritarians and the just don't want to share that position.

 

[WillJ8787]

Some liberties are protected by the BoR, from democracy.

And democracy is more often than not the enemy of liberty... that's why the Bill of Rights restricts it.

And authoritarians love democracy, it validates their authority.

Again, why the BoR RESTRICTS democracy.

Liberty comes from the restriction of authority, especially the authority of democracy.



You fantasize, you don't know much though.



We aren't the totalitarian control freaks totally incapable of 'live and let live' and demanding absolute compliance and conformity nation wide.

I see you continue to chose from the ala carte menu of Liberty...my personal liberty is more important than liberty for citizens.

Yes, you are a self admitted traitor to Democracy...which is the bedrock of this country and how we do things here.

I understand...no place in this country works for you...you have options.... exercise them.

As for Minnesota and many other places where Liberals, who love democracy, are moving to....well, you are running out of time.