The government shuts down. Another spectacular MAGA failure.

[PersonalFavors]

Nope


It was passed as such and then the right dismantled the pieces that made it work.
The whole bill was carved up for political purposes when the legislation was meant to benefit the country


Yes

It was about providing access to healthcare for every American.


Lol


If you take out the gears on a machine and it breaks, it's because you removed the gears

The only provision to be removed from the bill was the penalty for not having insurance.
They said it was about access for every American namely children. Do to its inability to be afforded without government subsidy it never did that.
You laugh at obama's grift.

You are a big part of the problem. You continue to tout the parts of the bill that are the most failed. And even place blame.
Its was broken by obama pelosi.

Medicare/medicaid funded by government or not, should never in any way have its coverage determined by a government entity.
Look what happened under obidens autopen. Medicare/medicaid covered sex change surgery that is not even possible. You either have an x chromosome or you do not.

 

[ll74]

The only provision to be removed from the bill was the penalty for not having insurance.

Lol

They said it was about access for every American namely children. Do to its inability to be afforded without government subsidy it never did that.
You laugh at obama's grift.

You think he was grifting.

He was working for health accessibility for all.l and went for the best option available.

It worked....after the ACA was passed, access to health are was doubled.

You are a big part of the problem. You continue to tout the parts of the bill that are the most failed. And even place blame.
Its was broken by obama pelosi.

You think it's about money.(Mostly yours)
I think it's about healthcare.

Im ok with my position.

Medicare/medicaid funded by government or not, should never in any way have its coverage determined by a government entity.

Ok

Look what happened under obidens autopen. Medicare/medicaid covered sex change surgery that is not even possible. You either have an x chromosome or you do not.

Neat

 

[Rickslaw101]

Your president is a convicted felon and a senile pedo.

lol...you people crack me up. The guy is turning into the greatest president of the 21st Century and you're still reciting made up lines from crackpot prosecutors who prostituted themselves before the inept Biden administration. C'mon man!

 

[ll74]

lol...you people crack me up. The guy is turning into the greatest president of the 21st Century and you're still reciting made up lines from crackpot prosecutors who prostituted themselves before the inept Biden administration. C'mon man!

The most corrupt and Authoritarian President since FDR.....is the actual fact.

 

[Rickslaw101]

Lol. History will not be kind to you stupid fucking MAGAtards.

You should actually read up on a little history Eric. You clearly have a lot to learn. I'm pretty comfortable with the history being written these days. 7 decades long wars resolved, and another big one about to be. Economy is booming. Investment coming back to America. In fact, if it wasn't for your liberal buddies trying to relive the so-called "Summer of Love" by burning down more cities, things would be pretty close to perfect.

 

[Rickslaw101]

The most corrupt and Authoritarian President since FDR.....is the actual fact.

no...Biden's not in office any longer. The era of ignoring the courts is over. Try to keep up.

 

[ll74]

no...Biden's not in office any longer. The era of ignoring the courts is over. Try to keep up.

Our current President has threatened government retaliation to his enemies, demanded prosecution by the government of his enemies, allowed access to his office for payment (Trump coin), dismissed investigations into bribery for his staff...and he did this all publicly.

That is just off the top of my head.

The previous President might have done a few questionable or inporpper things but nowhere near the scope of this Presidency.

 

[PersonalFavors]

Our current President has threatened government retaliation to his enemies, demanded prosecution by the government of his enemies, allowed access to his office for payment (Trump coin), dismissed investigations into bribery for his staff...and he did this all publicly.

That is just off the top of my head.

The previous President might have done a few questionable or inporpper things but nowhere near the scope of this Presidency.

I wish Trump would do some government retaliation to his enemies, demand prosecution by the government of his enemies. But he cannot and won't even try.
The previous president did not do anything. We are still trying to find out who the puppeteers were. Little by little.

 

[Rickslaw101]

Our current President has threatened government retaliation to his enemies, demanded prosecution by the government of his enemies, allowed access to his office for payment (Trump coin), dismissed investigations into bribery for his staff...and he did this all publicly.

That is just off the top of my head.

The previous President might have done a few questionable or inporpper things but nowhere near the scope of this Presidency.

FDLOL... you've got some balls talking about THIS administration's alleged "retaliation against his enemies" when that's all the Biden minions could do for their four years wandering in the White House. At least when Trump's Justice Department prosecutes someone, they defendant has actually committed a crime -- as opposed the the last administration where local idiot prosecutors had to make up crimes and then find equally corrupt judges to hear the case.

And as for people paying for access, have you never heard of Hunter Biden who sold access to his dad to China among others.

The hypocrisy of your kind is beyond the pale. When you make up crimes and then prosecute an innocent man, it's to "protect us from Fascism", but when your people get prosecuted for real crimes, you are outraged.

Take a chill pill, fella. We're not even one year in on this ride. The best is yet to come.

 

[ll74]

FDLOL... you've got some balls talking about THIS administration's alleged "retaliation against his enemies" when that's all the Biden minions could do for their four years wandering in the White House. At least when Trump's Justice Department prosecutes someone, they defendant has actually committed a crime -- as opposed the the last administration where local idiot prosecutors had to make up crimes and then find equally corrupt judges to hear the case.

And as for people paying for access, have you never heard of Hunter Biden who sold access to his dad to China among others.

The hypocrisy of your kind is beyond the pale. When you make up crimes and then prosecute an innocent man, it's to "protect us from Fascism", but when your people get prosecuted for real crimes, you are outraged.

Take a chill pill, fella. We're not even one year in on this ride. The best is yet to come.

I'm discussing this administration.

If you believe the previous administration engaged in similar behavior and that you thought that behavior was bad, then why are you defending the same with this administration?

JFC....stop with the horseshit

Your guy literally puts a banner of his face on state buildings.....it doesn't get more blatant.

 

[Rickslaw101]

I'm discussing this administration.

If you believe the previous administration engaged in similar behavior and that you thought that behavior was bad, then why are you defending the same with this administration?

JFC....stop with the horseshit

Your guy literally puts a banner of his face on state buildings.....it doesn't get more blatant.

I guess reading is not your strong suit either. There's a huge difference between what Trump is doing and what Biden did. Trump is prosecuting real criminals. Biden's minions (I say "minions" because Biden was not in control of anything) -- his minions made up crimes and then seduced local partisans to try those bogus cases. HUGE difference. HUGE!

Try to keep up.

 

[ll74]

I guess reading is not your strong suit either. There's a huge difference between what Trump is doing and what Biden did. Trump is prosecuting real criminals. Biden's minions (I say "minions" because Biden was not in control of anything) -- his minions made up crimes and then seduced local partisans to try those bogus cases. HUGE difference. HUGE!

Try to keep up.

I get that you are focused on deflection to the previous President

Your answer seems to be - the behavior is bad
The last guy did it much worse
This President doing the same thing, which is bad, is ok because it's much less bad.

 

[Lazaran]

"Some people" seem to "think" they can engage in productive dialogue with MAGAts…



"Some people"



We. Told. Them. So.

 

[Rickslaw101]

I get that you are focused on deflection to the previous President

Your answer seems to be - the behavior is bad
The last guy did it much worse
This President doing the same thing, which is bad, is ok because it's much less bad.

Again, you seem to miss the point. Prosecuting ACTUAL criminals is what Presidents and Justice Departments are supposed to do. Not bad. Good. So no. Trumps not bad.

BIDEN was bad. Well, to be clear, Biden's minions were bad. They were bad because they were prosecuting innocent people. THAT is bad. Bad, bad, bad. That's different from prosecuting ACTUAL criminals (which is good).

Got it?

Oh, and yeah, Biden's minions were bad also because they were taking advantage of an infirm elderly man. That's BAD. Very Bad. It's like robbing your grandfather when he has to go to the home. Bad. Bad, bad, bad.


I get it that this is a little complicated for you because your people tend to talk in circles and riddles and nonsense. But I have faith in you. I think you can come to understand someday.

 

[ll74]

Again, you seem to miss the point. Prosecuting ACTUAL criminals is what Presidents and Justice Departments are supposed to do. Not bad. Good. So no. Trumps not bad.

He's openly told his DoJ to prosecute his enemies.

Is that bad?

BIDEN was bad. Well, to be clear, Biden's minions were bad. They were bad because they were prosecuting innocent people. THAT is bad. Bad, bad, bad. That's different from prosecuting ACTUAL criminals (which is good).

Biden's DoJ prosecuted actual criminals.

Got it?

Yes, you need to deflect.

Oh, and yeah, Biden's minions were bad also because they were taking advantage of an infirm elderly man. That's BAD. Very Bad. It's like robbing your grandfather when he has to go to the home. Bad. Bad, bad, bad.

Deflect

I get it that this is a little complicated for you because your people tend to talk in circles and riddles and nonsense. But I have faith in you. I think you can come to understand someday.

If behavior is bad, the it doesn't matter who does it.

If you believe the last administration did bad things and this administration is doing the same thing, then it's still bad

You keep trying to express that Biden did the same thing as 47 but his was the bad thing that you don't like and yet can't express why 47 isn't also doing bad things.

But you do seem to think you are.

 

[Rickslaw101]

He's openly told his DoJ to prosecute his enemies.

Is that bad?


Biden's DoJ prosecuted actual criminals.


Yes, you need to deflect.


Deflect


If behavior is bad, the it doesn't matter who does it.

If you believe the last administration did bad things and this administration is doing the same thing, then it's still bad

You keep trying to express that Biden did the same thing as 47 but his was the bad thing that you don't like and yet can't express why 47 isn't also doing bad things.

But you do seem to think you are.

Again. Please try to focus and keep up. I know it's hard for you. The LAST administration prosecuted innocent people. THAT'S BAD.

This administration is prosecuting actual criminals. THAT'S GOOD. It's also different. Prosecuting innocent people because you disagree with them is BAD. Prosecuting criminals because they're criminals is NOT BAD. Opposite of BAD. It's GOOD.

Get it? Bad does not equal good. Not same.

C'mon man. You can do this! I know you can understand the difference between Good and Bad. I still have faith in you.

And no. Not deflecting 'cause I have nothing to run away from. Just the facts man. Just the facts.

 

[ll74]

Again. Please try to focus and keep up. I know it's hard for you. The LAST administration prosecuted innocent people. THAT'S BAD.

You think this one isn't doing that.

Lol

This administration is prosecuting actual criminals. THAT'S GOOD. It's also different. Prosecuting innocent people because you disagree with them is BAD. Prosecuting criminals because they're criminals is NOT BAD. Opposite of BAD. It's GOOD.

You believe things told to you by admitted liars.

Fun.

Get it? Bad does not equal good. Not same.

Yes, you believe what you're told by this administration who has literally, openly expressed their desire to prosecute their political enemies AND openly told their prosecutors to bring charges against them.

The last one didn't do that.

C'mon man. You can do this! I know you can understand the difference between Good and Bad. I still have faith in you.

I do enjoy that you're so brainwashed by this administration.....it's comical

And no. Not deflecting 'cause I have nothing to run away from. Just the facts man. Just the facts.

Lol

 

[Rickslaw101]

You think this one isn't doing that.

Lol

You believe things told to you by admitted liars.

Fun.


Yes, you believe what you're told by this administration who has literally, openly expressed their desire to prosecute their political enemies AND openly told their prosecutors to bring charges against them.

The last one didn't do that.


I do enjoy that you're so brainwashed by this administration.....it's comical


Lol

I see you're just not getting it. YOU believe everything any Biden-ite tells you when they plainly lied for four years. You assume that's what Trump is doing. I can't help that you have no capability for actual thought and analysis.

As John Kennedy is fond of saying. "Life is hard. It's harder when you're stupid." Good luck to you, fella. You're gonna need it.

 

[ll74]

I see you're just not getting it. YOU believe everything any Biden-ite tells you when they plainly lied for four years.

Nope.

You're focused on Biden.

I'm telling you what this administration has openly admitted to doing

You assume that's what Trump is doing. I can't help that you have no capability for actual thought and analysis.

It isn't what 47 is doing. He's actually worse

As John Kennedy is fond of saying. "Life is hard. It's harder when you're stupid." Good luck to you, fella. You're gonna need it.

You don't understand what history means.

 

[YDB95]

Melania was never an illegal alien. Ever.
Joy Reid on the other hand is an illegal allied. Neither of her parents were here legally when she was born. JR is nothing more than an anchor baby.

Republicans are not stripping away coverage.
The ACA should never have been funded by the government.

And this is why there is no point in trying to negotiate and find common ground: there is no common ground to be had. Progressives believe health care is a right; conservatives think it's a privilege. Either way, the Dems don't owe the Republicans their votes here.

Discarded?
How are 900$ per month plans considered affordable?
How are 900$ per month plans with 20$ copay, no co-insurance with a 8500$ deductible considered affordable?
Roughly 20,000$ a year for health care is not affordable.

You make an excellent case for single-payer. But I can guess what you think of that.

Legal migrants are supposed to be able to provide for themselves as a condition of their residency status. If they can't do that then they need to return whence they came and ask their native country to provide for them.

You have every right to lobby for changes in the law to reflect that. But as it stands, the real dispute is over legal immigrants, not undocumented ones as your right-wing pals keep saying.