The ghosts in the room

[oggbashan]

Most of our local prostitutes are from Eastern Europe. (The current estimate is that 80% of prostitutes working in London are not UK residents. The local percentage is thought to be nearer 55%. But both are official guesstimates!) A few are working as sex workers from choice as the fastest way to make money to establish themselves or their family back in their home country.

Too many are working to pay off gangmasters, pimps or people smugglers and are effectively in economic slavery. The police try to break that pattern, and the new legislation in the UK makes a small difference in that the clients might be more willing to give evidence to avoid being prosecuted themselves.

A few, such as my former neighbour, were/are providing specialist services for older men. They are more likely to be UK citizens working within the law and are older women apparently in their 40s.

All the above tend to work indoors in legal or illegal brothels with some safeguards against violent and abusive clients.

But the women with the greatest risk of injury or health problems are those selling themselves on the street for drugs.

Locally the agencies try to get the drug-addicts off the streets and into some sort of programme but there aren't enough available places. The brothels are raided from time to time to check for illegal immigrants and for sex slavery. All the raids tend to do is close the operation in one premises that then moves to another. Getting the women to give evidence against their exploiters is almost impossible.

How do I know? I work with the Police and other agencies locally on crime and anti-social behaviour. The community reports new brothels as they become known.

 

[DirtyAllie]

Most of our local prostitutes are from Eastern Europe. (The current estimate is that 80% of prostitutes working in London are not UK residents. The local percentage is thought to be nearer 55%. But both are official guesstimates!) A few are working as sex workers from choice as the fastest way to make money to establish themselves or their family back in their home country.

Too many are working to pay off gangmasters, pimps or people smugglers and are effectively in economic slavery. The police try to break that pattern, and the new legislation in the UK makes a small difference in that the clients might be more willing to give evidence to avoid being prosecuted themselves.

A few, such as my former neighbour, were/are providing specialist services for older men. They are more likely to be UK citizens working within the law and are older women apparently in their 40s.

All the above tend to work indoors in legal or illegal brothels with some safeguards against violent and abusive clients.

But the women with the greatest risk of injury or health problems are those selling themselves on the street for drugs.

Locally the agencies try to get the drug-addicts off the streets and into some sort of programme but there aren't enough available places. The brothels are raided from time to time to check for illegal immigrants and for sex slavery. All the raids tend to do is close the operation in one premises that then moves to another. Getting the women to give evidence against their exploiters is almost impossible.

How do I know? I work with the Police and other agencies locally on crime and anti-social behaviour. The community reports new brothels as they become known.

Shame, shame you're taking the sexy out of the fantasy!

But thank you for the realism of your post, its refreshing

 

[DirtyAllie]

After I made my post yesterday a friend sent me this message

"Good post, but look at where we are. Who do you think they want to listen to? The Well educated woman with experience in the topic at hand or the sexy stripper? That question should be pretty much rhetorical. If for no other reason they will agree with the stripper in hopes to get pictures of her Remember where you are at all times. Logic checks at the door on sex sites."

They were not wrong.

 

[LadyVer]

After I made my post yesterday a friend sent me this message

"Good post, but look at where we are. Who do you think they want to listen to? The Well educated woman with experience in the topic at hand or the sexy stripper? That question should be pretty much rhetorical. If for no other reason they will agree with the stripper in hopes to get pictures of her Remember where you are at all times. Logic checks at the door on sex sites."

They were not wrong.

This is such bullshit, LC. The op was simply about a few moments a hooker shared about a grieving client. And that the hooker had passed away. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to know selling sex is a risky way to make a living. No one was trying to romanticize prostitution. That you would use your wife's profile, and then to use it to compare an educated woman and a stripper implying the educated woman is better is such a fucked up, misogynist thing to do. As well as just plain stupid.

 

[lovecraft68]

This is such bullshit, LC. The op was simply about a few moments a hooker shared about a grieving client. And that the hooker had passed away. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to know selling sex is a risky way to make a living. No one was trying to romanticize prostitution. That you would use your wife's profile, and then to use it to compare an educated woman and a stripper implying the educated woman is better is such a fucked up, misogynist thing to do. As well as just plain stupid.

Oh, right. Two people with similar opinions and a couple, equal alt. But it's inevitable because all the couples on here that hang in the fetish forums always get accused of the same thing, especially the ones that share accounts.

You've been spending too much time in the General board, LV.

 

[LadyVer]

Oh, right. Two people with similar opinions and a couple, equal alt. But it's inevitable because all the couples on here that hang in the fetish forums always get accused of the same thing, especially the ones that share accounts.

You've been spending too much time in the General board, LV.

First of all: to say I spend too much time on the GB is fucking ridiculous. And even if I did, so what?

Second, your wife sounds exactly like you, even down to grammar and mechanics errors. This is not about sharing similar opinions.

Finally, an educated woman who is concerned about women's issues is not going to try to prove, at least publicly, that she and her opinions have more value than a stripper's. And to do it on an erotica site is even more stupid.

 

[Rozalin_0123]

Most of our local prostitutes are from Eastern Europe. (The current estimate is that 80% of prostitutes working in London are not UK residents. The local percentage is thought to be nearer 55%. But both are official guesstimates!) A few are working as sex workers from choice as the fastest way to make money to establish themselves or their family back in their home country.

Too many are working to pay off gangmasters, pimps or people smugglers and are effectively in economic slavery. The police try to break that pattern, and the new legislation in the UK makes a small difference in that the clients might be more willing to give evidence to avoid being prosecuted themselves.

A few, such as my former neighbour, were/are providing specialist services for older men. They are more likely to be UK citizens working within the law and are older women apparently in their 40s.

All the above tend to work indoors in legal or illegal brothels with some safeguards against violent and abusive clients.

But the women with the greatest risk of injury or health problems are those selling themselves on the street for drugs.

Locally the agencies try to get the drug-addicts off the streets and into some sort of programme but there aren't enough available places. The brothels are raided from time to time to check for illegal immigrants and for sex slavery. All the raids tend to do is close the operation in one premises that then moves to another. Getting the women to give evidence against their exploiters is almost impossible.

How do I know? I work with the Police and other agencies locally on crime and anti-social behaviour. The community reports new brothels as they become known.

The Czech Republic has a reputation for being a sex trafficking hub. Women from third world countries all over the world are brought there and forced into prostitution, or exported to other European nations. Given the close proximity of The Czech Republic to the UK, it doesn't sound surprising at all that so many prostitutes in the UK are illegal immigrants.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_trafficking_in_the_Czech_Republic

While we're on the subject of sexual slavery, here's a realistic look at the lives of webcam girls from both the US and third world countries.

http://gizmodo.com/5941976/indentur...the-crazy-secrets-of-internet-cam-girls-nsfw?

But LC is right, clearly I'm not educated enough on the subject.

 

[Rozalin_0123]

First of all: to say I spend too much time on the GB is fucking ridiculous. And even if I did, so what?

Second, your wife sounds exactly like you, even down to grammar and mechanics errors. This is not about sharing similar opinions.

Finally, an educated woman who is concerned about women's issues is not going to try to prove, at least publicly, that she and her opinions have more value than a stripper's. And to do it on an erotica site is even more stupid.

Even what DA said was "a message from a friend" sounds like something LC said previously, almost word for word.

 

[DirtyAllie]

Oh, no. They are onto us/me or so they think.

Now maybe its time to really put the truth out there.

The truth that LC is not a guy writing erotica in the paid market under a female pen name, but is really a woman, pretending to be a man on the boards, pretending to be a woman in the pay market. Yes, that sounds about right.

And ladyver you need to be less defensive and really read what's being said. The post you're so upset about was a pm I received, not my actual words and I didn't feel the need to edit it for political correctness.

Education is not the question to me, nor am I implying Rozalin is not also an educated woman.

The point is on a site like this its not education, experience, facts or logic that hold sway its tits and sexy talk. The moment a woman says she was a stripper, an escort, a lingerie model, anything...the guys stop thinking anything but "Ohhh..."

So maybe next time I make a post I'll attach a picture of myself in a pair of lace boy shorts and a hand bra. Then I'll get some people saying "Ohhh, maybe she has a point too!"

I get this all the time. I play flirty in the fetish forum, I get love, I make any type of strong statement I get crap. Now that is misogyny Ladyver.

Keep your alt talk and games for the rest of the high school level people on these boards(oh, and I mean that as high school drama not an educational insult, just to be clear)

Now everyone stay tuned because according to some here if I post that pick, you'll see LC in boy shorts.

 

[LadyVer]

Oh, no. They are onto us/me or so they think.

Now maybe its time to really put the truth out there.

The truth that LC is not a guy writing erotica in the paid market under a female pen name, but is really a woman, pretending to be a man on the boards, pretending to be a woman in the pay market. Yes, that sounds about right.

And ladyver you need to be less defensive and really read what's being said. The post you're so upset about was a pm I received, not my actual words and I didn't feel the need to edit it for political correctness.

Education is not the question to me, nor am I implying Rozalin is not also an educated woman.

The point is on a site like this its not education, experience, facts or logic that hold sway its tits and sexy talk. The moment a woman says she was a stripper, an escort, a lingerie model, anything...the guys stop thinking anything but "Ohhh..."

So maybe next time I make a post I'll attach a picture of myself in a pair of lace boy shorts and a hand bra. Then I'll get some people saying "Ohhh, maybe she has a point too!"

I get this all the time. I play flirty in the fetish forum, I get love, I make any type of strong statement I get crap. Now that is misogyny Ladyver.

Keep your alt talk and games for the rest of the high school level people on these boards(oh, and I mean that as high school drama not an educational insult, just to be clear)

Now everyone stay tuned because according to some here if I post that pick, you'll see LC in boy shorts.

Any woman who sounds 100% like her hub about women's issues is hard to take seriously. My issue with your posts is this: it's difficult enough to see LC's self-righteous rants and mansplaining, especially when it's unnecessary. It's worse to see his wife repeating the same crap.

 

[Rozalin_0123]

Education is not the question to me, nor am I implying Rozalin is not also an educated woman.

The point is on a site like this its not education, experience, facts or logic that hold sway its tits and sexy talk. The moment a woman says she was a stripper, an escort, a lingerie model, anything...the guys stop thinking anything but "Ohhh..."

Keep on backpedalling...

If anything, the moment I said I used to be a stripper, it had the opposite effect. I'm just a "dumb ho" with "low self esteem" "brainwashed" by "real men" who "needs help".

 

[sheablue]

I've been following this thread out of interest and amusement, and because it started out interesting. At least, when people were able to debate politely, if passionately, and stay on topic. When things went off topic, I was not surprised who led it astray.

But ... Allie. I dont know if this is you posting, or LC, and I dont care. You are out of line. And backpedalling. You shared that "PM" and agreed with it. You said, "they are not wrong." You didn't specify. So you are basically agreeing with the favorable comparison of yourself, as an "educated woman" to Rox the sexy stripper.

Are you fucking kidding me? Who is objectifying now? It's reprehensible. You, who present yourself as some sort of champion of women. Sure, now you acquiesce that you are not saying Roz is not educated. But it's too late. You already shared that idiotic PM, and pretty much said that because Roz said she is a former stripper, and attractive, that no man here could take her views at face value, or seriously, and only agree with her because she's a hot sexy stripper? Seriously? Are you listening to yourself?

With two posts you managed to insult Roz and every man who has participated in this thread. We aren't in the playground. We are in the Author's Hangout. So, which man who has participated in this thread is only agreeing with Roz because they are hoping for a sexy photo, NOT because she has an interesting viewpoint? SC? Ogg? HP? LC? Please enlighten me, I'd like to know.

Not every man here is as disgusting and vile as you and LC like to think they are. I've had many a scintillating conversation in the AH, with nary a thought of sex. Gasp! How is that possible?

Perhaps you should mosey on back to the playground or general board where it seems men and women fit more neatly into the boxes you have created for them.

Oh, no. They are onto us/me or so they think.

Now maybe its time to really put the truth out there.

The truth that LC is not a guy writing erotica in the paid market under a female pen name, but is really a woman, pretending to be a man on the boards, pretending to be a woman in the pay market. Yes, that sounds about right.

And ladyver you need to be less defensive and really read what's being said. The post you're so upset about was a pm I received, not my actual words and I didn't feel the need to edit it for political correctness.

Education is not the question to me, nor am I implying Rozalin is not also an educated woman.

The point is on a site like this its not education, experience, facts or logic that hold sway its tits and sexy talk. The moment a woman says she was a stripper, an escort, a lingerie model, anything...the guys stop thinking anything but "Ohhh..."

So maybe next time I make a post I'll attach a picture of myself in a pair of lace boy shorts and a hand bra. Then I'll get some people saying "Ohhh, maybe she has a point too!"

I get this all the time. I play flirty in the fetish forum, I get love, I make any type of strong statement I get crap. Now that is misogyny Ladyver.

Keep your alt talk and games for the rest of the high school level people on these boards(oh, and I mean that as high school drama not an educational insult, just to be clear)

Now everyone stay tuned because according to some here if I post that pick, you'll see LC in boy shorts.

 

[Handley_Page]

I've been following this thread out of interest and amusement, and because it started out interesting. At least, when people were able to debate politely, if passionately, and stay on topic. When things went off topic, I stopped

Amen to that

 

[NOIRTRASH]

Forty years ago I had lotsa experience with Spanish prostitutes and the system they worked for. Franco was dicator and hookers played by the rules or didn't play. An American operated the local brothel and we talked about business at times. But it was a bonafide business and hookers didn't work elsewhere. Guardia Civil provided security and they had machine guns. The girls had health cards and ID cards, and plenty were married.

With the state I had plenty of hookers for clients. Total different breed of cat. Most were drug users and violent and destitute. I knew one pimp who operated an outcall service. The girls lived at a large residence he owned. His men took the girls to their clients and brought them back. His place had people to do the laundry and cooking and errands and childcare for his girls. He and I swapped info about the girls.

 

[Bramblethorn]

First, let me commend you for reaching out to those women in need. There are certainly many who suffer both emotionally and physically. They need all the help they can get.

But you are seeing those who want help. Not every sex worker, stripper, webcam girl, and porn star wants help. Not every sex worker, stripper, webcam girl, and porn star NEEDS help.

This, so much this.

I've seen psych professionals making the same mistake about poly, and BDSM, and other unconventional sexual activities. They tend to pathologise these things because their professional practice exposes them to the bad cases, and they never stop to think about how the nature of their work filters what they see.

People who are happy with their lives don't go looking for counselling! If the only way you're meeting sex workers/poly/BDSMers is as a counsellor, of course you're only going to see the damaged ones.

(Also, noting that talking to illegal sex workers in the USA doesn't make anybody an expert on the situation in Australia, where laws are vastly different.)

Not all cases are the same, for any profession. I'd bet plenty of police officers go through similar PTDS after years of apprehending criminals, putting their lives on the line, and seeing the raw ugliness of humanity.

Uh huh. It's a big problem for paramedics and doctors, too. I know of one lady who qualified as a RN but went into porn instead because she found it too traumatic dealing with illness and death.

 

[lovecraft68]

For a long time there was a loophole in RI law that allowed indoor prostitution. So craig's list girls, back page was technically legal because they weren't out on the street.

That worked well for strip clubs because many of them would let you buy a ticket for a 'private dance' in the back and the girl would suck or fuck you for X$.

They closed that law a couple years ago when one of the sleaziest clubs "Cheaters" was caught having a 15 year old stripper.

I recalled that girl from a bachelor party I had to go to because I was the best man and have to admit I would have never thought she was that young, very mature looking face never mind the rest. But when I read the article my first thought was all the guys that took her in the back and were fucking a kid without knowing it....then I wondered how many cared?

On another level I never understood dumping $100+ dollars on having sex with one of the girls there. This wasn't a you pay for the hour, they got you off as fast as possible to get to the next one, so it seemed like waste.

Many years ago at club Fantasies I was fairly drunk(which is probably the answer in general to why anyone does it) and went into the back with one of the girls. I paid her a hundred, did the deed, then she asked me if I did coke and while I stood there put some out and did a few lines.

I walked out of the little room with her and she stopped at one of the bouncers, handed him the hundred I just gave her and he handed her a packet.

As Doc Holiday would say from Tombstone. "Very cosmopolitan"

Yet it seems some here would have no issues with their family members doing it because its so glamorous.

 

[Rozalin_0123]

For a long time there was a loophole in RI law that allowed indoor prostitution. So craig's list girls, back page was technically legal because they weren't out on the street.

That worked well for strip clubs because many of them would let you buy a ticket for a 'private dance' in the back and the girl would suck or fuck you for X$.

They closed that law a couple years ago when one of the sleaziest clubs "Cheaters" was caught having a 15 year old stripper.

I recalled that girl from a bachelor party I had to go to because I was the best man and have to admit I would have never thought she was that young, very mature looking face never mind the rest. But when I read the article my first thought was all the guys that took her in the back and were fucking a kid without knowing it....then I wondered how many cared?

On another level I never understood dumping $100+ dollars on having sex with one of the girls there. This wasn't a you pay for the hour, they got you off as fast as possible to get to the next one, so it seemed like waste.

Many years ago at club Fantasies I was fairly drunk(which is probably the answer in general to why anyone does it) and went into the back with one of the girls. I paid her a hundred, did the deed, then she asked me if I did coke and while I stood there put some out and did a few lines.

I walked out of the little room with her and she stopped at one of the bouncers, handed him the hundred I just gave her and he handed her a packet.

As Doc Holiday would say from Tombstone. "Very cosmopolitan"

Yet it seems some here would have no issues with their family members doing it because its so glamorous.

In your defense, "The Block" is one of the sleaziest destinations for strip clubs I've ever been to. If that is the status quo for RI, it's no wonder you have such a jaded view. I wonder if that loop hole was a major contributing factor in The Block turning from a famous burlesque show destination in the 1950's to the "slum" it is now.

Your experiences will vary by state, for better or worse. Ohio remains one of the most strict states regarding adult oriented businesses. Dancers can't be fully nude and the club serve alcohol. Clubs have to be x miles from any church, school, government building, etc. No contact at all is allowed when fully nude (this one is often ignored).

Go one state away in any direction and the rules change.

 

[Handley_Page]

Give the relatively small size of the UK I suspect there's a certain quantity of looking the other way by the local feds.
But then, I live miles away from the city and know little of it's ways now.

 

[Carnal_Flower]

Awesome. I'm sure we all look forward to hearing from you and other sex workers about how wonderful it all is.

Unfortunately, haven't heard much yet except for a stripper who apparently who thinks horned up dudes looking through beer goggles at a naked woman is profound intimacy, and the delusional dreams of another that a dude paying for a fuck means deep connection. Yawn.

(Bradley Cooper texted me tonight. I changed my FB status to "engaged!"--Amy Schumer)

I'm sure dancing naked for horny men is enthralling for attention-seeking narcissists. Makes sense. Most girls figured out that they can be sex objects the minute they started growing boobs. Takes more for some, I guess.

In your defense, "The Block" is one of the sleaziest destinations for strip clubs I've ever been to. If that is the status quo for RI, it's no wonder you have such a jaded view. I wonder if that loop hole was a major contributing factor in The Block turning from a famous burlesque show destination in the 1950's to the "slum" it is now.

Your experiences will vary by state, for better or worse. Ohio remains one of the most strict states regarding adult oriented businesses. Dancers can't be fully nude and the club serve alcohol. Clubs have to be x miles from any church, school, government building, etc. No contact at all is allowed when fully nude (this one is often ignored).

Go one state away in any direction and the rules change.

 

[lovecraft68]

Awesome. I'm sure we all look forward to hearing from you and other sex workers about how wonderful it all is.

Unfortunately, haven't heard much yet except for a stripper who apparently who thinks horned up dudes looking through beer goggles at a naked woman is profound intimacy, and the delusional dreams of another that a dude paying for a fuck means deep connection. Yawn.

(Bradley Cooper texted me tonight. I changed my FB status to "engaged!"--Amy Schumer)

I'm sure dancing naked for horny men is enthralling for attention-seeking narcissists. Makes sense. Most girls figured out that they can be sex objects the minute they started growing boobs. Takes more for some, I guess.

What I find funny is when you think stripper/dancer you think they are degrading themselves, shaing their tits for money etc...

Fact is its the idiot men degrading themselves. Paying to see tits.

The few times I've been in strip clubs(because I don't like them) I think nothing is more pathetic than the hotshot in his thousand dollar suit acting liek he's something and cumming in his pants froma twenty year old girl gyrating on him (and paid to do it)

The girls laugh their asses off at these losers, and some of the hookers do it about the johns. They play nice of course, then the guy leaves and its "what was that, ten seconds? was that even five inches? God, when did he shower last, and "no wonder he pays for it.

Oh wait, I forgot all the guys who see hookers are sexy, smell good, have 9" and fuck like porn stars, then get as romantic as a Harlequin novel...my bad.

I admit I've paid for it in the past in between marriages when I was hell bent on...being hellbent. I think I was a little change up from the average john as in being in good shape and lasting more then a few minutes, and at least always being clean and mellow(they deal with a lot of jerks) but I have no doubt they felt the same contempt for me as others, but it never bothered me. It was paying for a service nothing more, nothing less.

Speaking of the jerks they deal with has anyone mentioned the times they are raped and beaten if they are crazy enough to be working in a house alone? No? I'm not surprised.

 

[Handley_Page]

One of my favourite TV shows currently is NCIS (the usual Gibbs mob).
The [repeated] episode this evening featured a prostitute and the death of several blokes.
She gets beaten up.
I think most of us may have forgotten the risks taken by SOME 'working girls'; lost in the humour of "the happy hooker"

 

[legerdemer]

Awesome. I'm sure we all look forward to hearing from you and other sex workers about how wonderful it all is.

Unfortunately, haven't heard much yet except for a stripper who apparently who thinks horned up dudes looking through beer goggles at a naked woman is profound intimacy, and the delusional dreams of another that a dude paying for a fuck means deep connection. Yawn.

(Bradley Cooper texted me tonight. I changed my FB status to "engaged!"--Amy Schumer)

I'm sure dancing naked for horny men is enthralling for attention-seeking narcissists. Makes sense. Most girls figured out that they can be sex objects the minute they started growing boobs. Takes more for some, I guess.

Like others, I have been reading but have no direct experience to contribute and so I have kept quiet.

But this is about as condescending and judgmental a set of statements as I've seen on the AH. It's dripping scorn. For being in a place where I would expect open minds to predominate, I am floored. I don't see any reason to heap this kind of scorn on anyone! My opinion, of course.

And your rights to free speech, of course. I am just exercising mine to say that, while I cannot comment knowledgeably on the original issue, I don't believe women involved in the sex industry deserve this kind of scorn, even if and when they do enjoy their work. (I would imagine ANY work is easier to do if you can possibly get some enjoyment out of it.)

 

[LadyVer]

Like others, I have been reading but have no direct experience to contribute and so I have kept quiet.

But this is about as condescending and judgmental a set of statements as I've seen on the AH. It's dripping scorn. For being in a place where I would expect open minds to predominate, I am floored. I don't see any reason to heap this kind of scorn on anyone! My opinion, of course.

And your rights to free speech, of course. I am just exercising mine to say that, while I cannot comment knowledgeably on the original issue, I don't believe women involved in the sex industry deserve this kind of scorn, even if and when they do enjoy their work. (I would imagine ANY work is easier to do if you can possibly get some enjoyment out of it.)

Ditto.

 

[redzinger]

What I find funny is when you think stripper/dancer you think they are degrading themselves, shaking their tits for money etc...

Fact is its the idiot men degrading themselves. Paying to see tits.

The few times I've been in strip clubs(because I don't like them) I think nothing is more pathetic than the hotshot in his thousand dollar suit acting like he's something and cumming in his pants from a twenty year old girl gyrating on him (and paid to do it)

About ten or so years ago, I went to Stringfellows in London with a visiting female friend as we were curious as to what it was like. And we were drunk.

My friend got told off for dancing as more men were watching her than the current show of two ropey-looking women. She is pretty and very flexible though.

We went downstairs to the male stripper area and they were all very...disappointing. I told one topless guy that he needed to work on his abs. (I was fit as fuck at that time as I spent most of my free time in the gym, so I wasn't being hypocritical.)

Also went to the Griffin when it was a scabby pub (an internet search assures me it's been poshed up) and you could get away with not throwing a pound in the pint pot if you didn't want to watch the current girl - you just turned your back. Variable quality.

Oh, and Candy Bar (lesbian), which had by far the best girls. In utter awe of some of those girls.

 

[Bramblethorn]

Speaking of the jerks they deal with has anyone mentioned the times they are raped and beaten if they are crazy enough to be working in a house alone? No? I'm not surprised.

Actually, I mentioned it twice.

Working alone can be dangerous. A lot of sex workers prefer to share a house with another SW, or work in a larger brothel that can afford professional security, or have a driver who can drop them off on a call and raise the alarm if they don't show, etc etc. Many have partners, and may be the breadwinner in that relationship. Anti-pimping laws put all those people at risk of arrest, which pushes SWs into dangerous solo work.

Noting: In 2012, Pippa was violently attacked by a former client, a paroled rapist in an Adelaide apartment.

In South Australia, brothels are criminalised. If she'd been living in NSW, Victoria, or Queensland, she'd have had the choice of working on premises with safety in numbers :-/

PS - calling solo workers "crazy" is victim-blaming bullshit. Many would much prefer to work in partnership for safety's sake, but are prevented from doing so by anti-pimping/anti-brothel laws.