The Farming Thread

trysail

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I think there are some farmers around here.


Perhaps they would like a thread of their own. As for me, I'd like a place where I could occasionally throw a few questions in their direction.


 
I'm more than a farmer, God is envious of my powers, and Mother Nature is seriously pissed with me.
 


For example— yesterday, I was traveling through some corn (maize) fields. By the end of September, I would expect those fields to have been harvested.


Much to my surprise (obviously), there were a fair number of fields where the corn was still standing. Mystified, I stopped to pull an ear to see what the corn looked like. When I shucked an ear, it was dessicated, shriveled and hard. It didn't look like it could be used for much of anything. It didn't look like it could be used as animal feed.


Why wasn't the corn harvested earlier?

Why would a farmer leave corn unharvested?​

 


For example— yesterday, I was traveling through some corn (maize) fields. By the end of September, I would expect those fields to have been harvested.


Much to my surprise (obviously), there were a fair number of fields where the corn was still standing. Mystified, I stopped to pull an ear to see what the corn looked like. When I shucked an ear, it was dessicated, shriveled and hard. It didn't look like it could be used for much of anything. It didn't look like it could be used as animal feed.


Why wasn't the corn harvested earlier?

Why would a farmer leave corn unharvested?​


Couldn't sell it or a legal dispute of some kind.
 


For example— yesterday, I was traveling through some corn (maize) fields. By the end of September, I would expect those fields to have been harvested.


Much to my surprise (obviously), there were a fair number of fields where the corn was still standing. Mystified, I stopped to pull an ear to see what the corn looked like. When I shucked an ear, it was dessicated, shriveled and hard. It didn't look like it could be used for much of anything. It didn't look like it could be used as animal feed.


Why wasn't the corn harvested earlier?

Why would a farmer leave corn unharvested?​


Corn and maize are two different things. Corn is a genetically engineered plant that wouldn't exist without a farmer tending it. If humans disappeared right now, there would be no corn next year.

What you saw is probably "silage." That is, corn that is harvested after it drys in the field and is ground up to feed the cows in the winter.
 


For example— yesterday, I was traveling through some corn (maize) fields. By the end of September, I would expect those fields to have been harvested.


Much to my surprise (obviously), there were a fair number of fields where the corn was still standing. Mystified, I stopped to pull an ear to see what the corn looked like. When I shucked an ear, it was dessicated, shriveled and hard. It didn't look like it could be used for much of anything. It didn't look like it could be used as animal feed.


Why wasn't the corn harvested earlier?

Why would a farmer leave corn unharvested?​


Couldn't sell it or a legal dispute of some kind.




Nah, that ain't it. Roughly 30% of the corn/maize fields I passed yesterday were unharvested. The corn was still standing.

The only economic reason would be if the direct cost of harvesting was greater than the amount that could be realized from sale. Corn/maize prices are down but they're not that low.


Code:
GX_GR113 
Springfield, IL    Mon Sep 30, 2013    USDA-IL Dept of Ag Market News 

Illinois Grain Prices in Country Elevators 
  
This is Monday's report of the grain prices and trends prepared by the 
USDA and the Illinois Department of Agriculture.

Illinois country grain prices were lower on Monday afternoon the 30th. With
the USDA Quarterly stocks report showing more corn than the highest pretrade
estimate and the amount of soybeans equal to the highest pretrade estimate,
the results were a lower market.

In Northern and Western Illinois country grain dealers quoted shelled 
corn bids were 9 to 17 cents lower at 4.09-4.37. Soybean bids were 31 to 
52 cents lower at 12.52-12.63.
  
In Central Illinois country grain dealers quoted shelled corn bids were
down 13 to 17 cents at 4.10-4.28. Soybean bids were 32 to 37 cents lower at 
12.53-12.77.

In the Southern part of the state, shelled corn bids were 12 cents lower 
at 4.10-4.27. Soybean bids were 37 to 39 cents lower at 12.56-12.81. Wheat 
bids were 4 cents lower at 6.26-6.53.

Commercial grain prices paid farmers by Interior Illinois Country  
Elevators after 2.00 p.m. today are listed below in dollars per bushel: 
AREA          US 2 CORN    US 1 SOYBEANS   US 2 SOFT WHEAT   
NORTHERN     4.22 - 4.37   12.55 - 12.63    -----------        
WESTERN      4.09 - 4.19   12.52 - 12.58    -----------        
N. CENTRAL   4.18 - 4.28   12.58 - 12.77    -----------        
S. CENTRAL   4.10 - 4.24   12.53 - 12.63    -----------        
WABASH       4.12 - 4.27   12.56 - 12.68    6.36 - 6.39      
W.S. WEST    4.13 - 4.25   12.70 - 12.81    6.42 - 6.53  
L. EGYPT     4.10 - 4.13   12.56 - 12.63    6.26 - 6.36    
  
Central Illinois average price   Corn        4.19         (-22 1/2 Z)   
                                 Soybeans   12.65         (-17 1/2 X) 
   
                 CONTRACT BIDS FOR January 2014 DELIVERY 
 AREA           CORN         SOYBEANS      SOFT WHEAT  
NORTHERN     4.20 - 4.25   12.55 - 12.71   -----------     
WESTERN      4.17 - 4.25   12.70 - 12.81   -----------     
N. CENTRAL   4.23 - 4.39   12.71 - 12.85   -----------     
S. CENTRAL   4.27 - 4.42   12.70 - 12.90   -----------     
WABASH       4.32 - 4.41   12.70 - 12.90   -----------  
W.S. WEST    4.32 - 4.46   12.94 - 13.04   -----------   
L. EGYPT     4.28 - 4.36   12.73 - 12.90   ----------- 

Source: USDA-IL Dept of Ag Market News, Springfield, IL 
        Phone:  217-782-4925   In state only toll free 888-458-4787 
        www.ams.usda.gov/mnreports/GX_GR113.txt
 
maybe it was a bad year. if the weather conditions, growing conditions, are so poor there as to make the produce unusable then it might not be worth harvesting.
 



Nah, that ain't it. Roughly 30% of the corn/maize fields I passed yesterday were unharvested. The corn was still standing.

The only economic reason would be if the direct cost of harvesting was greater than the amount that could be realized from sale. Corn/maize prices are down but they're not that low.


Code:
GX_GR113 
Springfield, IL    Mon Sep 30, 2013    USDA-IL Dept of Ag Market News 

Illinois Grain Prices in Country Elevators 
  
This is Monday's report of the grain prices and trends prepared by the 
USDA and the Illinois Department of Agriculture.

Illinois country grain prices were lower on Monday afternoon the 30th. With
the USDA Quarterly stocks report showing more corn than the highest pretrade
estimate and the amount of soybeans equal to the highest pretrade estimate,
the results were a lower market.

In Northern and Western Illinois country grain dealers quoted shelled 
corn bids were 9 to 17 cents lower at 4.09-4.37. Soybean bids were 31 to 
52 cents lower at 12.52-12.63.
  
In Central Illinois country grain dealers quoted shelled corn bids were
down 13 to 17 cents at 4.10-4.28. Soybean bids were 32 to 37 cents lower at 
12.53-12.77.

In the Southern part of the state, shelled corn bids were 12 cents lower 
at 4.10-4.27. Soybean bids were 37 to 39 cents lower at 12.56-12.81. Wheat 
bids were 4 cents lower at 6.26-6.53.

Commercial grain prices paid farmers by Interior Illinois Country  
Elevators after 2.00 p.m. today are listed below in dollars per bushel: 
AREA          US 2 CORN    US 1 SOYBEANS   US 2 SOFT WHEAT   
NORTHERN     4.22 - 4.37   12.55 - 12.63    -----------        
WESTERN      4.09 - 4.19   12.52 - 12.58    -----------        
N. CENTRAL   4.18 - 4.28   12.58 - 12.77    -----------        
S. CENTRAL   4.10 - 4.24   12.53 - 12.63    -----------        
WABASH       4.12 - 4.27   12.56 - 12.68    6.36 - 6.39      
W.S. WEST    4.13 - 4.25   12.70 - 12.81    6.42 - 6.53  
L. EGYPT     4.10 - 4.13   12.56 - 12.63    6.26 - 6.36    
  
Central Illinois average price   Corn        4.19         (-22 1/2 Z)   
                                 Soybeans   12.65         (-17 1/2 X) 
   
                 CONTRACT BIDS FOR January 2014 DELIVERY 
 AREA           CORN         SOYBEANS      SOFT WHEAT  
NORTHERN     4.20 - 4.25   12.55 - 12.71   -----------     
WESTERN      4.17 - 4.25   12.70 - 12.81   -----------     
N. CENTRAL   4.23 - 4.39   12.71 - 12.85   -----------     
S. CENTRAL   4.27 - 4.42   12.70 - 12.90   -----------     
WABASH       4.32 - 4.41   12.70 - 12.90   -----------  
W.S. WEST    4.32 - 4.46   12.94 - 13.04   -----------   
L. EGYPT     4.28 - 4.36   12.73 - 12.90   ----------- 

Source: USDA-IL Dept of Ag Market News, Springfield, IL 
        Phone:  217-782-4925   In state only toll free 888-458-4787 
        www.ams.usda.gov/mnreports/GX_GR113.txt

Fuck you, don't play YES BUT with me. Drive by anywhere and youll see rotting hay and melons and whatever in the fields. Ask someone, don't come here asking questions then dissing hypothetical answers to hypothetical questions, ass wipe.
 
or if the farmer had some sort of accident/illness. or the bank foreclosed on the mortgage. or a vital piece of machinery broke down.
 
or if the farmer had some sort of accident/illness. or the bank foreclosed on the mortgage. or a vital piece of machinery broke down.

Yep. No one REALLY knows unless they ask. But based on stats its too expensive to harvest or theres some issue unrelated to agricultural science.
 
Corn and maize are two different things. Corn is a genetically engineered plant that wouldn't exist without a farmer tending it. If humans disappeared right now, there would be no corn next year.

What you saw is probably "silage." That is, corn that is harvested after it drys in the field and is ground up to feed the cows in the winter.

I thought silage was wet & green :confused:
...and weird smelling.
 
Corn and maize are two different things. Corn is a genetically engineered plant that wouldn't exist without a farmer tending it. If humans disappeared right now, there would be no corn next year.

What you saw is probably "silage." That is, corn that is harvested after it drys in the field and is ground up to feed the cows in the winter.



I'm liking that answer. My only question is that the stuff I saw was hard as a rock. There was no moisture left in it. The kernels on the ear appeared inedible (to my untrained eye).


There are too many goddamn faux farmers around these parts (meaning bankers, lawyers, lobbyists and automobile dealers pretending to be farmers).


It was nice to be out where farming is an actual livelihood (and occasionally not— as any farmer worth his salt would tell you.)


 
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My, look at all the farmers giving their educated opinions on trysail's observations.

Who knew we had so many on Lit.?
 
Fuck you, don't play YES BUT with me. Drive by anywhere and youll see rotting hay and melons and whatever in the fields. Ask someone, don't come here asking questions then dissing hypothetical answers to hypothetical questions, ass wipe.


Sir: we subject hypotheses to scrutiny around heah.




 


I'm liking that answer. My only question is that the stuff I saw was hard as a rock. There was no moisture left in it. The kernels on the ear appeared inedible (to my untrained eye).


...



Inedible to you, but yummy to the cows. It has to last all winter, so it has to be dry. It still has a moisture content, but it's not juicy.

In August, take a look at corn fields. Farmer's plant the sweet corn inside the field and the field corn on the outside. Sweet corn has golden tassels (like a stripper I once knew) and the field corn has brown tassels. They plant that way because city folk pull along side the road and steal what they think is sweet corn - it's actually the field corn that's meant for cows, not humans.
 
unless you weirdo yanks call something that isn't silage silage. like you do with football.
 
Inedible to you, but yummy to the cows. It has to last all winter, so it has to be dry. It still has a moisture content, but it's not juicy.

In August, take a look at corn fields. Farmer's plant the sweet corn inside the field and the field corn on the outside. Sweet corn has golden tassels (like a stripper I once knew) and the field corn has brown tassels. They plant that way because city folk pull along side the road and steal what they think is sweet corn - it's actually the field corn that's meant for cows, not humans.


I'll ruminate on that.

;) ;)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silage

 
...my understanding was that the wet & green was specially stored to prevent rotting. not enough air to rot. I have seen it. it oozes.

I shall try my google fu!

http://www.biotechlearn.org.nz/themes/future_farming/what_is_silage

fermented, because it's stored with low oxygen levels.

You are correct and I'm wrong in the technical usage of the word. I assume the word "silage" has been misconstrued by my kin because the dried corn is put in a silo.

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unless you weirdo yanks call something that isn't silage silage. like you do with football.

No, you spelled it right. You didn't put a random u where it didn't belong. I probably could still translate Silauge if hard pressed.
 
You are correct and I'm wrong in the technical usage of the word. I assume the word "silage" has been misconstrued by my kin because the dried corn is put in a silo.
funny colonials :)

do they make silage too? that stuff has to be smelled to be believed.
 
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