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SkyBubble said:
A basket of groceries that cost $100 in 2019 cost $136 in 2024. That's a bad economy. Gas, housing, clothing, and groceries were al way up during Biden's four years from when he took office.
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Yes it was a bad economic time with lots of contributing factors:

  • Trump left us behind the curve in battling COVID-19, and its effects were devastating.
  • The economy reeled as a result of that, driving up prices.
  • Ukraine was defending itself against an invasion and it affected food markets around the world. It is a major grain market, and it had an impact on the US prices as well.
  • Coming out of COVID, corporations took advantage of marketing and raised prices
  • We went through severe drought and floods also contributing factors
  • Costs of farm equipment and fertilizer increased significantly.
Are you implying we should have followed Trump's advice and let the 'common cold' take its course, kept schools open, business as usual, and we would have been just fine? That none of the above would have been factors?
 
Kind of reminiscent of the debate with trump in 2016 about his ideas for healthcare, paraphrasing 'I don't have a plan but I have a concept of a plan'. The economy is moving along as though there isn't a plan for growth, tariifs, trade, taxes, labor, direction... other than to cut taxes for the well to do and large corporations. The IRS is being taken apart, just as other federal agencies are, rules are being relaxed for large corp.'s - look at depreciation on equipment - and other aspects that dumps more of the burden on the middle and lower classes. A concept of a plan is not a plan hence the continuing changes to tariffs and more.

https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/why-a-fed-rate-cut-might-not-help-the-stock-market-080026277.html

https://www.nbcnews.com/business/rcna229375 thanks rory for post on tariff threads
 

Revised Jobs Numbers Show How Nearly a MILLION Fake Jobs Were Reported to Make Commiela Harris Look Better​

By Ireland Owens, Daily Caller News Foundation • Sep. 9, 2025

(DCNF)—U.S. job growth in the year through March was much weaker than previously reported, according to Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) revisions released on Tuesday.

The U.S. economy likely added 911,000 fewer jobs in the year ending in March — or an average of almost 76,000 fewer each month — according to the BLS’ preliminary benchmark revision. The report comes after job growth slowed in August, with the U.S. economy adding just 22,000 nonfarm payroll jobs, according to data released Friday by BLS.

The jobs report revisions were even worse than the downward adjustment of 700,000 that was previously projected, Axios reported on Tuesday. The BLS’ final benchmark revision will be released in February 2026.

The revisions come after President Donald Trump fired BLS Commissioner Erika McEntarfer on Aug. 11 after the release of a lackluster July jobs report, alleging she had “faked the Jobs Numbers” ahead of the 2024 presidential election in an effort to “boost” former Vice President Kamala Harris’ “chances of victory.” Trump announced Aug. 11 that he had tapped conservative economist Dr. E.J. Antoni to replace McEntarfer as the next BLS commissioner.

“BLS’s massive downward revision of last year’s jobs numbers confirms what Main Street has long known: The Biden labor market was far softer than topline numbers indicated,” Alfredo Ortiz, CEO of Job Creators Network, said in a statement provided to the Daily Caller News Foundation. “President Trump inherited a weak labor market, which the Federal Reserve has kept stagnant through artificially high interest rates.”

https://thelibertydaily.com/revised-jobs-numbers-show-how-nearly-million-fake/

The entire Biden presidency was one big lie.
 
Rightguide said:

Revised Jobs Numbers Show How Nearly a MILLION Fake Jobs Were Reported to Make Commiela Harris Look Better​

By Ireland Owens, Daily Caller News Foundation • Sep. 9, 2025

(DCNF)—U.S. job growth in the year through March was much weaker than previously reported, according to Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) revisions released on Tuesday.

The U.S. economy likely added 911,000 fewer jobs in the year ending in March — or an average of almost 76,000 fewer each month — according to the BLS’ preliminary benchmark revision. The report comes after job growth slowed in August, with the U.S. economy adding just 22,000 nonfarm payroll jobs, according to data released Friday by BLS.

The jobs report revisions were even worse than the downward adjustment of 700,000 that was previously projected, Axios reported on Tuesday. The BLS’ final benchmark revision will be released in February 2026.

The revisions come after President Donald Trump fired BLS Commissioner Erika McEntarfer on Aug. 11 after the release of a lackluster July jobs report, alleging she had “faked the Jobs Numbers” ahead of the 2024 presidential election in an effort to “boost” former Vice President Kamala Harris’ “chances of victory.” Trump announced Aug. 11 that he had tapped conservative economist Dr. E.J. Antoni to replace McEntarfer as the next BLS commissioner.

“BLS’s massive downward revision of last year’s jobs numbers confirms what Main Street has long known: The Biden labor market was far softer than topline numbers indicated,” Alfredo Ortiz, CEO of Job Creators Network, said in a statement provided to the Daily Caller News Foundation. “President Trump inherited a weak labor market, which the Federal Reserve has kept stagnant through artificially high interest rates.”

https://thelibertydaily.com/revised-jobs-numbers-show-how-nearly-million-fake/

The entire Biden presidency was one big lie.
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That's not actually how it happened.

Jobs reports are based on surveys, which requires proper responses, which aren't always accurate or timely. The process needs work but it's not about the people doing the work.

Funny enough, the BLS person that was fired had no hand in compiling the data.
 
Rightguide said:

Revised Jobs Numbers Show How Nearly a MILLION Fake Jobs Were Reported to Make Commiela Harris Look Better​

By Ireland Owens, Daily Caller News Foundation • Sep. 9, 2025

(DCNF)—U.S. job growth in the year through March was much weaker than previously reported, according to Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) revisions released on Tuesday.

The U.S. economy likely added 911,000 fewer jobs in the year ending in March — or an average of almost 76,000 fewer each month — according to the BLS’ preliminary benchmark revision. The report comes after job growth slowed in August, with the U.S. economy adding just 22,000 nonfarm payroll jobs, according to data released Friday by BLS.

The jobs report revisions were even worse than the downward adjustment of 700,000 that was previously projected, Axios reported on Tuesday. The BLS’ final benchmark revision will be released in February 2026.

The revisions come after President Donald Trump fired BLS Commissioner Erika McEntarfer on Aug. 11 after the release of a lackluster July jobs report, alleging she had “faked the Jobs Numbers” ahead of the 2024 presidential election in an effort to “boost” former Vice President Kamala Harris’ “chances of victory.” Trump announced Aug. 11 that he had tapped conservative economist Dr. E.J. Antoni to replace McEntarfer as the next BLS commissioner.

“BLS’s massive downward revision of last year’s jobs numbers confirms what Main Street has long known: The Biden labor market was far softer than topline numbers indicated,” Alfredo Ortiz, CEO of Job Creators Network, said in a statement provided to the Daily Caller News Foundation. “President Trump inherited a weak labor market, which the Federal Reserve has kept stagnant through artificially high interest rates.”

https://thelibertydaily.com/revised-jobs-numbers-show-how-nearly-million-fake/

The entire Biden presidency was one big lie.
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Comrade RightGuide and the mentally disabled 86TintaNoitx2024nyding are pretending the revision doesn’t include months during the Trump administration. 😆

Mindless MAGA sheep are really bad at pretending.
 
Rightguide said:

Revised Jobs Numbers Show How Nearly a MILLION Fake Jobs Were Reported to Make Commiela Harris Look Better​

By Ireland Owens, Daily Caller News Foundation • Sep. 9, 2025

(DCNF)—U.S. job growth in the year through March was much weaker than previously reported, according to Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) revisions released on Tuesday.

The U.S. economy likely added 911,000 fewer jobs in the year ending in March — or an average of almost 76,000 fewer each month — according to the BLS’ preliminary benchmark revision. The report comes after job growth slowed in August, with the U.S. economy adding just 22,000 nonfarm payroll jobs, according to data released Friday by BLS.

The jobs report revisions were even worse than the downward adjustment of 700,000 that was previously projected, Axios reported on Tuesday. The BLS’ final benchmark revision will be released in February 2026.

The revisions come after President Donald Trump fired BLS Commissioner Erika McEntarfer on Aug. 11 after the release of a lackluster July jobs report, alleging she had “faked the Jobs Numbers” ahead of the 2024 presidential election in an effort to “boost” former Vice President Kamala Harris’ “chances of victory.” Trump announced Aug. 11 that he had tapped conservative economist Dr. E.J. Antoni to replace McEntarfer as the next BLS commissioner.

“BLS’s massive downward revision of last year’s jobs numbers confirms what Main Street has long known: The Biden labor market was far softer than topline numbers indicated,” Alfredo Ortiz, CEO of Job Creators Network, said in a statement provided to the Daily Caller News Foundation. “President Trump inherited a weak labor market, which the Federal Reserve has kept stagnant through artificially high interest rates.”

https://thelibertydaily.com/revised-jobs-numbers-show-how-nearly-million-fake/

The entire Biden presidency was one big lie.
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Nothing says propaganda and bs like the daily caller.

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/daily-caller/
 
dmallord said:
Yes it was a bad economic time with lots of contributing factors:

  • Trump left us behind the curve in battling COVID-19, and its effects were devastating.
  • The economy reeled as a result of that, driving up prices.
  • Ukraine was defending itself against an invasion and it affected food markets around the world. It is a major grain market, and it had an impact on the US prices as well.
  • Coming out of COVID, corporations took advantage of marketing and raised prices
  • We went through severe drought and floods also contributing factors
  • Costs of farm equipment and fertilizer increased significantly.
Are you implying we should have followed Trump's advice and let the 'common cold' take its course, kept schools open, business as usual, and we would have been just fine? That none of the above would have been factors?
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WE were shut down mostly by Democrats. Remember when Trump attacked DeSantis and Kemp for re-opening "too early"? Republican state, on the whole, got their economies up and running a lot sooner than Democrat states did.

And remember, it was the Trump administration that brought in Operation Warp Speed to get a vaccine as quickly as possible -- roughly a year, as opposed to five years when the Obama government gave a single company a mandate to do a vaccine. Yet somehow, you want to blame Trump for not having a vaccine sooner. Are you one of those people who denied Trump actually had COVID when he got it during the campaign, then openly rooted for it to kill him like so many in your party?

The economy was in a worse state when Biden left than when he took office. Most of the "job growth" he bragged about was either jobs coming back from the pandemic lockdowns or more government jobs, paid for by the taxpayers. Prices skyrocketed. Especially essentials: Food, housing, gas, clothing.

Your feeble efforts to blame it on Ukraine or corporations don't hold water. The reason for teh corporate cost increases was the increased price of supplies caused by more government spending. Remember Biden's $6 trillion spending bill? We're still paying for that.

The only ways to pay for additional government spending are tax increases (which mean less money to produce goods and services and less money to buy them), borrowing (paid for by future taxes), or simply printing money backed by hot air. All three damage the economy.

The bad economy was the direct result of Biden's policies. Ye, he inherited a bad economy. His policies made it worse, and Trump's second term so far seems to be making it even worse than that.
 
Rightguide said:

Revised Jobs Numbers Show How Nearly a MILLION Fake Jobs Were Reported to Make Commiela Harris Look Better​

By Ireland Owens, Daily Caller News Foundation • Sep. 9, 2025

(DCNF)—U.S. job growth in the year through March was much weaker than previously reported, according to Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) revisions released on Tuesday.

The U.S. economy likely added 911,000 fewer jobs in the year ending in March — or an average of almost 76,000 fewer each month — according to the BLS’ preliminary benchmark revision. The report comes after job growth slowed in August, with the U.S. economy adding just 22,000 nonfarm payroll jobs, according to data released Friday by BLS.

The jobs report revisions were even worse than the downward adjustment of 700,000 that was previously projected, Axios reported on Tuesday. The BLS’ final benchmark revision will be released in February 2026.

The revisions come after President Donald Trump fired BLS Commissioner Erika McEntarfer on Aug. 11 after the release of a lackluster July jobs report, alleging she had “faked the Jobs Numbers” ahead of the 2024 presidential election in an effort to “boost” former Vice President Kamala Harris’ “chances of victory.” Trump announced Aug. 11 that he had tapped conservative economist Dr. E.J. Antoni to replace McEntarfer as the next BLS commissioner.

“BLS’s massive downward revision of last year’s jobs numbers confirms what Main Street has long known: The Biden labor market was far softer than topline numbers indicated,” Alfredo Ortiz, CEO of Job Creators Network, said in a statement provided to the Daily Caller News Foundation. “President Trump inherited a weak labor market, which the Federal Reserve has kept stagnant through artificially high interest rates.”

https://thelibertydaily.com/revised-jobs-numbers-show-how-nearly-million-fake/

The entire Biden presidency was one big lie.
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True.
 
I'm the one who is aligned with the facts. You just accept any propaganda the cult feeds you as a "fact."
 
SkyBubble said:
Typical. If I share articles that support my argument, you insult me.
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No, you posted articles about the Obama administration. Obama. We weren’t discussing Obama. Obama wasn’t the president in 2024.

Now I’m wondering if you know what year this is?
 
SkyBubble said:
WE were shut down mostly by Democrats. Remember when Trump attacked DeSantis and Kemp for re-opening "too early"? Republican state, on the whole, got their economies up and running a lot sooner than Democrat states did.
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That's understandable. Trump's waning acts were to allow COVID to spread, denying it was anything more than a cold. The handoff of Democracy to Biden meant, yes, we were mostly shut down by Democrats. Obviously, it was the party in power. That's a fact–not a fault. Sure, some states opened two weeks earlier. It didn't mean anything in the long run of a two-week advantage.

  • A University of Washington study found that states with Republican governors eased their initial COVID-19 restrictions approximately two weeks earlier than states with Democratic governors.
  • Early vs. long-term outcomes: While some studies show Republican-led states had higher employment and stronger economic growth in the initial months of the pandemic, other analyses found these advantages largely dissipated over the long term. A 2024 paper in COVID-19 and beyond: economic outcomes in Republican vs. Democratic states indicated that Republican states' employment growth and unemployment advantages "dissipated during the recovery from the COVID-19 recession such that there was not any longer-term advantage".
SkyBubble said:
And remember, it was the Trump administration that brought in Operation Warp Speed to get a vaccine as quickly as possible -- roughly a year, as opposed to five years when the Obama government gave a single company a mandate to do a vaccine. Yet somehow, you want to blame Trump for not having a vaccine sooner. Are you one of those people who denied Trump actually had COVID when he got it during the campaign, then openly rooted for it to kill him like so many in your party?
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If you don't acknowledge the virus is harmful to begin with, how would he have had a vaccine earlier? That he lied about it to the public is the greater sin. He wandered around in public without masking or distancing himself from his comrades and came down with COVID, much like poking a wasp nest and standing there to see the results. He got bitten. Medical experts had been warning him; he saw it spreading rapidly overseas. When he came down with it, he ran for medical help and received the best care in the world, all while keeping it a secret from the public as well. I fault Trump for his denials and the subsequent harm caused by not acting earlier than he could have. He failed to listen to medical experts, which was on him, and as a result, all of us paid for his misjudgment about the virus.

You're such a drama queen/king. I didn't root for the Felon to perish by COVID. However, I wouldn't have cried at his funeral either. :confused:
SkyBubble said:
The economy was in a worse state when Biden left than when he took office. Most of the "job growth" he bragged about was either jobs coming back from the pandemic lockdowns or more government jobs, paid for by the taxpayers. Prices skyrocketed. Especially essentials: Food, housing, gas, clothing.
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The economy wasn't all roses. You're right about the essentials rising in price. But your take on this is parroting the Felon's views. The Guardian says differently and also points out that economists used data to support their own slants. I'll leave it with this since I'm not an economist:
  • But the truth is that by standard economic measures, the US economy was in excellent shape when Biden turned over the White House keys to Trump, even though most Americans, upset about inflation, told pollsters the economy was in poor shape.
  • When Biden left office, the unemployment rate was a low 4.1%, and during Biden’s four years in office, the average jobless rate was lower than for any president since the 1960s. Trump has repeatedly railed against the high inflation under Biden, but the fact is that by the time Biden left office, the inflation rate had fallen to just 2.9% – down more than two-thirds from its peak and near the Federal Reserve’s inflation goal.
SkyBubble said:
Your feeble efforts to blame it on Ukraine or corporations don't hold water. The reason for teh corporate cost increases was the increased price of supplies caused by more government spending. Remember Biden's $6 trillion spending bill? We're still paying for that.
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My weakness is sitting in this damned wheelchair, reading posts that are more tilted than Kilimanjaro. I didn't blame anything on Ukraine. Your reading skills need some honing.

Ukraine, at war, faced tremendous difficulties in getting grain out to feed the poor in many countries. It produces 10% of the world's grain and over half of the world's cooking oil from sunflowers. The world pressured Putin to let those ships out of the dock through his warships to help others. That wasn't the only factor, of course, but it's no small matter either. It matters because we exported more under those conditions, and prices rose, as it was a recognized contributing factor. Corporations, emerging from COVID, jumped at the chance to pocket their share and more—greedy bastards. But you know that.

Biden's 6 trillion? Elon says we'll be paying for 5 trillion under the Felon's big beautiful bill. Suck on that lemon, fella. You don't get any points there. Not to mention the tariffs are creating a mess for our economy, for which no one has a handle on the costs of damage to the economy yet.

It's only in a starvation economy mode, that no one would accept, that we dig ourselves out of the economic sinkhole we are in. It sucks to be in the next generations doesn't it? That's okay, your guy says, since he helped pass that Big Beautiful Inflation Bill that the wealthiest man in the world says is going to break us.
SkyBubble said:
The only ways to pay for additional government spending are tax increases (which mean less money to produce goods and services and less money to buy them), borrowing (paid for by future taxes), or simply printing money backed by hot air. All three damage the economy.

The bad economy was the direct result of Biden's policies. Ye, he inherited a bad economy. His policies made it worse, and Trump's second term so far seems to be making it even worse than that.
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You suffer from BDS. Some here are going to add that you suffer from TDS after that last sentence also. :giggle::devilish:

Seems you're facing @BrightShinyGirl's both-side-ism syndrome.
 
People may be skeptical about job creation numbers because they come from a survey, and the recent 0.6% revision freaks out some who don’t understand context, but there is a source of hard data about employment: Unemployment insurance claims.

As the economic impact of the pandemic eased in 2022, unemployment claims fell to historically low levels and have stayed there since.
 
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