The Doctor

[kendo1]

Another brilliant episode.

The music was well picked too:

I can't decide
Whether you should live or die
Oh, you'll probably go to heaven
Please don't hang your head and cry
No wonder why
My heart feels dead inside
It's cold and hard and petrified
Lock the doors and close the blinds
We're going for a ride​

A Christmas special to come, and then a new series next year.
Without giving anything away- Oh, Martha!

 

[BlackShanglan]

We can't wait to see them over here. We've loved the first two seasons, just loved them. They've really done some great things. I particulary enjoy the way that each season we've seen, so far, has had themes and connections running through it - not just the obvious continuing-plot-line sorts of things, but subtle references that slowly become more clear and thematic contemplations like the devil/hell imagery of the second. Very interesting stuff.

It's also provided us with an already favorite line: "Who looks at a screwdriver and thinks, 'This needs sonic-ing up'?"

What's not to like about Captain Jack?

Shanglan

 

[Stella_Omega]

What's not to like about Captain Jack?

Shanglan

Which One?

 

[BlackShanglan]

Which One?

Good point!

Give me the two on the left and I'll take them off for extensive field-testing and close examination. I'll get back to you in ... oh, just come with us. I'm certainly not coming back.

 

[Stella_Omega]

Good point!

Give me the two on the left and I'll take them off for extensive field-testing and close examination. I'll get back to you in ... oh, just come with us. I'm certainly not coming back.

I'm not letting you walk off with those two, all by yourself!
I don't mind the one on the right, either-- he's rough, but pleasin'

 

[English Lady]

What's not to like about Captain Jack?

Shanglan

I Captain Jack.


John Barrowman and John Simm in the same programme and I have a growing lust for David T e n n a n t and wow, I had an interesting pre-sleep dream about those three plus me last night


Kendo -it was a cracking episode, cracking season even. I really was not a fan of the last two because I just could not stand Rose but this one has been very good.

 

[gauchecritic]

The reason I've liked all the recent revival series is mainly the writing but I've also enjoyed the retaining of the 'tacky' aspect, monsters and adventure plus some of the production values.

Tying things in themes like BadWolf and Torchwood (an anagram), and relating any number of background things to run concurrently and being resolved at the end.

And Captain Jack.. spoiler, I won't say it.

Unfortunately I'm not enamoured of the slight shift towards fantasy at the end. that's definitely not my Dr Who.

And I hate it being billed as the 'season finale'. Will you just fuck off inserting Americanisms into quintessential British Culture.

 

[3113]

Another brilliant episode.

Sorry to say, but I didn't think this episode was brilliant.

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I thought it was a pretty bad episode, in fact, which a finale should never be. Deus ex machina ending, and they make you "think" Martha does something, but she still did nothing. They play up how much she's done by saying she's "famous" but you don't see her do anything, do you? That's a classic "tell rather than show" mistake that the writers shouldn't be making.

And the Doctor's great charm as a character is that he's a "human" seeming eccentric hero, not a "superhero" who flies about in a golden light! That was just ridiculous--like I said, deus ex machina. No brains needed, just pray and God will save us all Also a waste of Captain Jack. Why bring him back into the episode and then do nothing with him? I do wish they hadn't given him his own show; when he's with the doctor, the show picks up considerably. He's a great foil.

They started off good with the New Master, then blew it. He didn't come across as anything but crazy and a good villain should be more than that. I believed nothing in this episode, and that makes me kinda mad

They're saying that they're going to bring back the "runaway" bride girl as the Doctor's new companion. Oh...dear.

 

[gauchecritic]

spoiler...

But you must admit Captain Jack being the Face of Bo is pretty brilliant.

 

[English Lady]

We'll have to agree to disagree 3113, I think.
*spoilers below beware!!*

They showed Martha telling her story, but you would have to do a whole episode without to doctor to fit in all she's meant to have done in a year - don't think an episode without the doctor would go down at all well.

I loved the ending, I loved how the turned the ultimate evil (arc angel network) into the ultimate good, how the people did it, no hero.

Captain Jack is better in Torchwood, though the past couple of episodes with him in were good and he was used more, he was just kinda there for the final episode, so I kinda agree with you there.

Oh, and I didn't see the golden light thing as being the Doctor, the super Hero, just the opposite in fact. It wasn't his power, it was the power of the people glowing form him, such great power that it made him glaw as it put him back to normal.


Though my husband and I are not looking forward to Catherine Tate as the companion, though i've not seen the episode of Dr Who she has been in (I told you I am not an avid fan, I only started watching every episode this seson) so maybe it'll be better than I am imagining.

 

[English Lady]

gauche -yes I agree, that was so damn clever!

 

[3113]

They showed Martha telling her story, but you would have to do a whole episode without to doctor to fit in all she's meant to have done in a year - don't think an episode without the doctor would go down at all well.

As a writer, I have to disagree. I guarantee you, I could have shown Martha doing things around the world within an hour and still have brought it all home at the end--and yes, that means I arrogantly and confidently think I could have done better. I *KNOW* I could have done better. Show don't tell. Telling without showing is a cop-out. It allows writers to say, "trust us, this woman is a legend" without proving to you that she is. Imagine other stories like that: "Here's Sherlock Holmes, he's brilliant, I won't show him doing any brilliant things, just take my word for it...." or "This is the Devil, he's evil. I won't show him doing anything bad, but trust me, he's evil." That's lame. And given how little Martha has done all season, it was particularly lame. But then, they never did figure out what to do with her.

A "brilliant" episode is one you won't soon forget. It sticks with you in all kinds of ways and leaves you talking about it with friends and going back to it again and again. The episode "Blink" was just such an episode. Smart, contained, with all kinds of twists and turns and unexpected corners and interesting ideas.

This episode was written up in someone's sleep. I saw everything that was going to happen a mile away (Master abuses, abuses, abuses and then something we're *suppose* to think is clever at the end magically wins the day). No twist, no turns, no clever dialogue, no unexpected corners, no interesting ideas. I don't expect the Doctor to lose in the end--this is Dr. Who after all--but I do expect more of an interesting journey to that end. It really disappointed me.

 

[3113]

But you must admit Captain Jack being the Face of Bo is pretty brilliant.

And? I mean, that's it? That's all I get? One clever idea does not a brilliant episode make.

 

[kendo1]

Kylie will be in the Christmas Special episode, they're filming over the next month. I doubt that Catherine Tate will be the next companion.

The rumours are that there will be two companions.

 

[sexguy21]

thank you ....












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two hot girls kissing

 

[3113]

Kylie will be in the Christmas Special episode, they're filming over the next month. I doubt that Catherine Tate will be the next companion.

I fear she will be unless the poll on the BBC website changes their mind:

Here's the BBC Website:

Catherine Tate accepts proposal to star in fourth series

Catherine Tate is set to return to the TARDIS for the complete 13 week run of Series Four of Doctor Who.

Award winning comedian Tate will reprise her role as Donna, the runaway bride from last year's Christmas special, despite turning down the Doctor's invitation to travel with him at the end of that adventure.

When Catherine was asked if she would like to become The Doctor's new companion at the press screening of The Runaway Bride, she replied, "I would love to, but no one has asked!" Well, now they have.

"Catherine was an absolute star in The Runaway Bride and we are delighted that one of Britain's greatest talents has agreed to join us for the fourth series," announced Doctor Who's executive producer and head writer, Russell T Davies. "Viewers can expect more ambitious storylines and a whole host of guest stars in 2008."

Catherine Tate added : "I am delighted to be returning to Doctor Who. I had a blast last Christmas and look forward to travelling again through time and space with that nice man from Gallifrey."

Freema Agyeman who has played Martha Jones, The Doctor's companion throughout the critically acclaimed third series, will return to the show to join The Doctor and Donna mid series.

 

[jomar]

What am I missing here? I googled "The Doctor" and mostly got links to Vagisil on WebMD. So what's up?

 

[3113]

What am I missing here? I googled "The Doctor" and mostly got links to Vagisil on WebMD. So what's up?

Google "Dr. Who" instead

 

[kendo1]

I don't think I'll be watching the next series- Catherine Tate

Thanks, 3113.

 

[English Lady]

3113 -for me, it was a memorable episode -horses for coures and all that.

 

[TheEarl]

Possible casting spoiler for Christmas: There have been (hugely unsubstantiated) rumours that Christopher Eccleston may return in the Christmas episode. Remember the throwaway references to the Ninth Doctor being stuck on the Titanic?

I wasn't impressed with the last episode either. It was all a bit blah, with the Deus Ex Machina leaving me feeling completely cheated.

The Earl

 

[English Lady]

Possible casting spoiler for Christmas: There have been (hugely unsubstantiated) rumours that Christopher Eccleston may return in the Christmas episode. Remember the throwaway references to the Ninth Doctor being stuck on the Titanic?

I wasn't impressed with the last episode either. It was all a bit blah, with the Deus Ex Machina leaving me feeling completely cheated.

The Earl

EARL!!!!!! *huggles*

even though you're in the insane not likee corner!

Missed ya

 

[Vermilion]

It's really a case of stephen moffat v. russel t. davis.

Moffat rules, Davis gets too bogged down in his own cleverness.

Moffat wrote Blink and (who could forget) 'Are you my Mummy...?'

<shiver>

Just because Davis (or is it Davies? I really couldn't care less tbh) is a major Dr. Who fan doesn't necessarily make him the ideal writer of Dr. Who episodes...

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[Vermilion]

Which One?

Anyone else think the one in the middle could easily be Stella in a long wig?

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[3113]

Moffat wrote Blink and (who could forget) 'Are you my Mummy...?'

Oh, gosh, yes, that 2-parter blew me away! I think that was the first time I noticed Moffat, not because other episodes had been bad, but because those set the bar so much higher, not only for Dr. Who, but for any sci-fi show on television. To tell a tight, clever sci-fi tale, a scary little horror story and weave it all seamlessly through the London blitz, capturing that time period and it's story like a stunning, sepia-tone snapshot....

Wow. I still marvel over it.

It's among my fave episodes of Dr. Who and that's any Dr. Who episode that I've ever watched--though I suppose, in hindsight, that the introduction of Captain Jack helped just a little to make them irresistible