The Christmas War Continues

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It's usually easy to tell where a person stands in the culture wars, but whose side is someone on when his Christmas decor is a blood-spattered Santa Claus holding a severed head?

Joel Krupnik and Mildred Castellanos decked the front of their Manhattan mansion this year with a scene that includes a knife-wielding 5-foot-tall St. Nick and a tree full of decapitated Barbie dolls. Hidden partly behind a tree, the merry old elf grasps a disembodied doll's head with fake blood streaming from its eye sockets.

Krupnik told the New York Post it was a statement about the commercialization and secularization of Christmas.

"Christmas has religious origins," he said. "It's in the Bible. Santa is not in the Bible. He's not a religious symbol."

So, I really don't think this guy is particularly HELPING the cause for Christmas. I mean...isn't Christmas for Kids?

http://www.nynewsday.com/media/photo/2005-12/20949992.jpg

sausage

 

[just pet]

no hiding class

 

[capricious_chic]

Some people will do anything to get attention.

 

[snasu]

whatever....people make of the holiday whatever they want to make of it.

 

[Little Tighty]

please come to Montreal, I'm horny.

 

[KRCummings]

So, I really don't think this guy is particularly HELPING the cause for Christmas. I mean...isn't Christmas for Kids?

http://www.nynewsday.com/media/photo/2005-12/20949992.jpg

sausage

Santa is for kids. Christmas is for everyone. I think that was his point. He's making it the wrong way though.

 

[snojo]

Some people will do anything to get attention.

Look at me...I'm naked!!.....You were saying?

 

[breakwall]

please come to Montreal, I'm horny.

You can threadjack me anytime.

 

[snasu]

please come to Montreal, I'm horny.

yes, that's what I got from the display as well. Excellent idea.

 

[Little Tighty]

You can threadjack me anytime.

Groping, is that allowed?

 

[breakwall]

Santa is for kids. Christmas is for everyone. I think that was his point. He's making it the wrong way though.

Yes, that's what I meant.

And if it was about the over-commercialization of Christmas then I could almost see his viewpoint on this, but by his own statement, he isn't against commercialization, he's against Santa Claus. And while that in itself is an arguable position, this particular display is, as you mention, just all kinds of wrong.

 

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Groping, is that allowed?

I get to grope back, right?

 

[Little Tighty]

I get to grope back, right?

Of course, I welcome it.

 

[snojo]

yes, that's what I got from the display as well. Excellent idea.

I hope that means you're on your way..Mmmmm

 

[Lorelei_11]

Freedom of expression. I don't really understand how that makes his point. Christmas is in the bible Santa isn't. Oh.. maybe Santa has murdered Christmas. There's a big snake in that tree too, like in the Garden of Eden. People have been tricked by the snake, manipulated.

 

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Freedom of expression. I don't really understand how that makes his point. Christmas is in the bible Santa isn't. Oh.. maybe Santa has murdered Christmas. There's a big snake in that tree too, like in the Garden of Eden. People have been tricked by the snake, manipulated.

You're giving this guy WAY too much credit.
I'm guessing he thought "Let's make a Santa but all bloody and stuff." and that was pretty much where the creative conceptualization process ended.

 

[Lavared]

You're giving this guy WAY too much credit.
I'm guessing he thought "Let's make a Santa but all bloody and stuff." and that was pretty much where the creative conceptualization process ended.

That seems reasonable.

Besides doesn't Santa mean Saint in some language or another? So.... it's a religious name.

I find it hard to believe that the display is sitting out on the street unguarded in NYC and no one has removed it.

 

[Ishmael]

Looks like an Andy Warhol moment to me.

Ishmael

 

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Looks like an Andy Warhol moment to me.

Ishmael

If it was 12 feet tall and there were 100 of them, it could be a Christo moment.

 

[Lorelei_11]

You're giving this guy WAY too much credit.
I'm guessing he thought "Let's make a Santa but all bloody and stuff." and that was pretty much where the creative conceptualization process ended.

Well, aren't you the skeptic. (smiling) I would have never thought what you are saying. Do you mean we live in a world of bland folks that never have deep thoughts? The snake in the tree has decieved the masses. You forget the snake breakwall.

I'm a dreamer, and sometimes that gets me in trouble. O.k, I'm an open minded skeptic. So, alright... let me put on my spock ears for a moment, and shake some senses back into myself. Most people are out for the shock value and attention, he was probably smoking a joint and thought it would be cool to scare the neighbor kids. lol

Who knows though, dare to dream breakwall.

 

[Jedi_Princess]

Hidden partly behind a tree, the merry old elf grasps a disembodied doll's head with fake blood streaming from its eye sockets.

so that's what happened to doll parts

i'm sorry, that was horrible

 

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Well, aren't you the skeptic. (smiling) I would have never thought what you are saying. Do you mean we live in a world of bland folks that never have deep thoughts? The snake in the tree has decieved the masses. You forget the snake breakwall.

I'm a dreamer, and sometimes that gets me in trouble. O.k, I'm an open minded skeptic. So, alright... let me put on my spock ears for a moment, and shake some senses back into myself. Most people are out for the shock value and attention, he was probably smoking a joint and thought it would be cool to scare the neighbor kids. lol

Who knows though, dare to dream breakwall.

Well, if I give the guy the benefit of the doubt, which pains me to do, I can see that the deep allegorical symbology behind his work is an anguished outpouring of despair in the face of encroaching secularism on the most Holy of Holy Days. He uses the snake to represent the inherent evil that resides within each son and daughter of Adam, the deep-rooted shame that turns man from God and into the shadow of greed. The severed head represents the material world severing us from spirituality, cruelly destroying our right to neverending life so assured by the sacrifice of Him Who Was Born On This Day.

And yet, it still looks like a white trash lawn ornament doused in ketchup.

 

[Lavared]

That's not a snake. It's a gourd.

 

[Lorelei_11]

Well, if I give the guy the benefit of the doubt, which pains me to do, I can see that the deep allegorical symbology behind his work is an anguished outpouring of despair in the face of encroaching secularism on the most Holy of Holy Days. He uses the snake to represent the inherent evil that resides within each son and daughter of Adam, the deep-rooted shame that turns man from God and into the shadow of greed. The severed head represents the material world severing us from spirituality, cruelly destroying our right to neverending life so assured by the sacrifice of Him Who Was Born On This Day.

And yet, it still looks like a white trash lawn ornament doused in ketchup.

Well.... (claps wildly) good job, very very good job.

Its good to start out with the benifit of a doubt. That was cool. Even white trash have deep thoughts. Try for open minded skeptic, this way you wont miss the good things that go on. Oh, and we don't have to turn from god into the shadow of greed, its just that it most often happens.

 

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That's not a snake. It's a gourd.

I'm pretty sure that's a nylon stuffed with packing peanuts.