The British

[Sixth]

How well are the British doing in Iraqi? Are they winning the war of Hearts and Minds? How are the UK troops doing?

 

[Starblayde]

Probably better than the Amercians, I would think.

[edit] As far as hearts and minds goes

Of course as far as War goes, Americans have killed more Brits than the Iraqis *shakes fist and growls violently* [/edit]

 

[Sixth]

And is this because the British have more experience with this sort of combined military and propoganda conflict?

 

[Starblayde]

Probably because we don't wear the stars and stripes on our arms, tbh.

 

[Sixth]

Or did the US have higher expectations to live up to?

 

[huskie]

Or did the US have higher expectations to live up to?

not sure. but we are putting up forces and thus biteing off more work so to speak??

 

[bluespoke]

It's a war!

Will you be wanting to hand out rosettes for places next?

Or prizes for artistic impression?

It doesn't matter which of us is doing better or worse than the other. We're playing as a team. The team wins or loses not individual parts!

 

[Sixth]

It's a war!

Will you be wanting to hand out rosettes for places next?

Or prizes for artistic impression?

It doesn't matter which of us is doing better or worse than the other. We're playing as a team. The team wins or loses not individual parts!

So that's a vote for as well as can be expected?

I'm curious to see how the Americans see British aid in this action.

 

[Bob_Bytchin]

It's a war!

Will you be wanting to hand out rosettes for places next?

Or prizes for artistic impression?

It doesn't matter which of us is doing better or worse than the other. We're playing as a team. The team wins or loses not individual parts!

Well said.

Support the troops...all of them. I support the US troops because I deal with them on a daily basis. But I support all coalition forces no matter where they are from.

We don't need any hooligan antics on the sidelines

 

[Bob_Bytchin]

I'm curious to see how the Americans see British aid in this action.

I think they are doing a great job...better than US forces right now I believe. I've seen footage of how the Brits are handling Bosra and I think it takes a lot of guts and courage to put themselves on the line.

I support the coalition. I for one am not keeping score.

 

[The Plunger]

And is this because the British have more experience with this sort of combined military and propoganda conflict?

The War of 1812? Explain please.

 

[Sixth]

Well said.

Support the troops...all of them. I support the US troops because I deal with them on a daily basis. But I support all coalition forces no matter where they are from.

We don't need any hooligan antics on the sidelines

But there are drastic differences in tactics. The US marines in Omm Qusar were aggressive, the UK troops sat back to more -dare I say it- passive Northern Ireland tactics.

 

[Sixth]

The War of 1812? Explain please.

Afghanistan, Serria Leonie, Northern Ireland, Cyprus, Bosnia, etc. Peace keeping forces.

 

[Bob_Bytchin]

But there are drastic differences in tactics. The US marines in Omm Qusar were aggressive, the UK troops sat back to more -dare I say it- passive Northern Ireland tactics.

There is nothing wrong with passive or cautious tactics. The goal is to minimize civilian and coalition casualties. The coalition has the luxury to wait if needed and strike when the situations are right. I don't want to see a return to WWI bum-rush style warfare...just throwing numbers of men at numbers of men.

 

[bluespoke]

But there are drastic differences in tactics. The US marines in Omm Qusar were aggressive, the UK troops sat back to more -dare I say it- passive Northern Ireland tactics.

You may not be aware but all the marines at Omm Qusar, British and American, were under British command. Same commander using different tactics on different days.

 

[Sixth]

You may not be aware but all the marines at Omm Qusar, British and American, were under British command. Same commander using different tactics on different days.

I am aware. I'm glued to BBC News 24, CNN, BBC World News web updates and CNN International Web updates. As I said, I'm curious to see what the Americans think of what's going on.

I suppose you know, for example, that the Black Watch put themselves between the Feydayeen and civs fleeing Basra. Is this reported in the US?

 

[Gil_Favor]

Didnt know that the coalition was is a contest, to see who was "better".

 

[MunchinMark]

Where did the war of 1812 come from?

I think that because the British have been tasked with less war-clinching targets (i.e. the second city of Basra and the port of Umm Qasr, compared to Baghdad) the Americans will look better if everything works out OK. If things go wrong and this war draggs out, giving Iraqophile propagandists the chance to show plenty of civilian casualties, then the British will emerge from the war with comparitively less egg on their faces than the Americans.

Right now fairly little bile is being spewed our way. But then the Americans are so much easier as a target.

I wonder if the wider world is even paying attention to the sizeable (for population size) contribution the Australians have made?

 

[Bob_Bytchin]

I suppose you know, for example, that the Black Watch put themselves between the Feydayeen. Is this reported in the US?

Not that I've heard. But I think Brit victories, tactics, and maneuvers would get more press time here in the US if they were mentioned at press conferences. To get your own messages across, you may have to use the US press to your own advantages as well.

 

[Sixth]

Didnt know that the coalition was is a contest, to see who was "better".

It's not. In the Afghan crisis, though, US military magazines ran stories about how the British special forces shouldn't be used because they weren't as good as the US ones.

I'm curious to know how well you think the UK troops are doing?

 

[Gil_Favor]

, I'm curious to see what the Americans think of what's going on.

I have seen video clips of British Soilders.

I could see the determination in their faces.

Im proud of them.

 

[Sixth]

I wonder if the wider world is even paying attention to the sizeable (for population size) contribution the Australians have made?

De-mining the sea channel into Omm Qusar and dealing with the fires in the Ramadam oil fields. Essential work.

 

[Sixth]

Not that I've heard. But I think Brit victories, tactics, and maneuvers would get more press time here in the US if they were mentioned at press conferences. To get your own messages across, you may have to use the US press to your own advantages as well.

And do you think the UK media report the success of US troops?

 

[huskie]

I think they are doing a great job...better than US forces right now I believe. I've seen footage of how the Brits are handling Bosra and I think it takes a lot of guts and courage to put themselves on the line.

I support the coalition. I for one am not keeping score.

Yes but I am a little confused (probably cause it's the way the media has broadcasted things) as why they have not fully taken Bosra yet?? I kinda thoat the "Gloves" would have come off the secound the Iraqis started shooting there own people.

I hate it but I don't see anyway to win the town and lessen the amount of civilans deaths unless they go in and fight in the streets???
but then agin maybe the SAS is? and has been for days???

We probably want know for sure till we watch it on the history channle ten years from now??

 

[Bob_Bytchin]

US military magazines ran stories about how the British special forces shouldn't be used because they weren't as good as the US ones.

Honestly, it didn't get much press here if there were stories like that. I live on a US Army post, and I've never heard anyone speak ill of Brits...or any other coalition military. In fact, I've heard a lot of people praising coalition forces. I've heard nothing but good cheers from civilians as well. So no, there is no Brit resentment here that I've seen.