The biggest problem we face is the government is WAAAAY too big!

coachdb18

Literotica Guru
Joined
Jan 22, 2012
Posts
9,366
Government was never meant to be the central focus of our lives, nor to invade everything we do. It's far too big and far too invasive. And the government continues to get bigger, by the very fact that it can continually take from the population to engorge itself.

There's only one answer: we must get back to basic government functions which supply the NEEDS of government, and roll back the onslaught of trying to supply every WANT.

The ONLY solution is to cut government funding, upon which it feeds. We MUST repeal the XVI'th Amendment (Income Tax) and return the checks and balances to let the states have parity with the Federal government. State legislatures must be the source of federal funding, with the ability to decide what requests the federal government has that they will actually fund. States need the right and responsibility of saying NO to the federal government. Federal intimidation by withholding funds must come to an end.

The national debt is now, and has been for many years out of control. How long will it be before the interest on the debt exceeds revenues? How many times will the debt ceiling be raised?

It's time to end the madness....
 
Um, W is a repug who increased the size of government.

The biggest problem is that repugs like you are so fucking stingy and bitch about tax increases to fund vital programs.

We do however, seem to have an endless supply to fund the military.

Next time you have a heart attack, don't call 911.
 
Government was never meant to be the central focus of our lives, nor to invade everything we do. It's far too big and far too invasive. And the government continues to get bigger, by the very fact that it can continually take from the population to engorge itself.

There's only one answer: we must get back to basic government functions which supply the NEEDS of government, and roll back the onslaught of trying to supply every WANT.

The ONLY solution is to cut government funding, upon which it feeds. We MUST repeal the XVI'th Amendment (Income Tax) and return the checks and balances to let the states have parity with the Federal government. State legislatures must be the source of federal funding, with the ability to decide what requests the federal government has that they will actually fund. States need the right and responsibility of saying NO to the federal government. Federal intimidation by withholding funds must come to an end.

The national debt is now, and has been for many years out of control. How long will it be before the interest on the debt exceeds revenues? How many times will the debt ceiling be raised?

It's time to end the madness....

"we"? Why do "we" keep obediently FINANCING exactly what "we" also complain so much about?

Scarred the very government you finance will put you in jail if you don't? HA! You understand when the first Americans flat-out refused to keep financing their own statist government then, their government could ship them to London to stand trial for outright treason? Pffttt: those patriots still held their ground and never buckled.

Do you realize almost a full 50% of income earners in America today aren't LEGALLY required to remit a net ¢ of federal income tax?

The most effective way to affect crony capitalist/statist government is to not remit the pizzo they demand as extortion permitting their lemmings to live in comfort/luxury as long as they give statist government their progressive cut(s).

See? "we" don't have to LEGALLY contribute to exactly what "we" whine so much about, so going to jail isn't even a any valid reason at all. No, it's the SPOILED lemming fact that "we" value our own COMFORT/LUXURY exponentially more than "we" ever value the relief "we" pseudo-demand from our extortionists, let alone the individual liberty object of America's founders.

Leviathan knows its lemmings perfectly well.
 
Coachdweeb's Profile said:
Yes, I have strong opinions, and a decidedly Type A personality, but WILL NOT discuss religion or politics… just way too many grenades and too many people ready to pull the pin, spring loaded to the pissed off position!

:rolleyes:
 
Um, W is a repug who increased the size of government.

The biggest problem is that repugs like you are so fucking stingy and bitch about tax increases to fund vital programs.

We do however, seem to have an endless supply to fund the military.

Next time you have a heart attack, don't call 911.

I don't think you can look at just one Republican who has increased the size of government, since pretty much all of them have since Coolidge with the exception of Reagan.
The biggest problem with liberals like you is you are so fucking eager to take money from me and people like me and throw it at program after program that do the same thing, and when someone suggests actually seeing if those programs work or cutting off funding after 40 years because they don't, folks like you shriek because "we were just about to see results" and excoriate people like me who want more accountability and consequences when that is lacking.
I don't know if the military needed an extra $300 billion, but even die-hard liberals should have been appalled at Nancy Pelosi insisting last week on a "commensurate" increase in domestic spending - and who gives a fuck on what, just keep the dollars coming.
 
Reagan didn't shrink the government. Although oddly enough Clinton did.

Go fig.

:rolleyes:
 
Agreed. Get rid of Homeland Security and the TSA for starters.

Next, stop subsidizing Exxon and other oil companies, the corn growers and ethanol producers, and cut out dozens of worthless, over budget, unnecessary military programs like the F-35.

That's a few hundred billion right there.
 
Agreed. Get rid of Homeland Security and the TSA for starters.

Next, stop subsidizing Exxon and other oil companies, the corn growers and ethanol producers, and cut out dozens of worthless, over budget, unnecessary military programs like the F-35.

That's a few hundred billion right there.

I can't find much fault, there.
 
Reagan didn't shrink the government. Although oddly enough Clinton reluctantly went along with the Gingrich budget, which did..

Go fig.

:rolleyes:

FYP.

Clinton's saving grace was he was pragmatic enough to claim a win whenever he was bested.


Fiscal conservatism is dead.
 
The biggest problem is that repugs like you are so fucking stingy and bitch about tax increases to fund vital programs.

We don't need tax increases to fund most of what we are already overpaying an astronomical amount of money for.


Agreed. Get rid of Homeland Security and the TSA for starters.

Next, stop subsidizing Exxon and other oil companies, the corn growers and ethanol producers, and cut out dozens of worthless, over budget, unnecessary military programs like the F-35.

That's a few hundred billion right there.

Shit can the DEA/ATF too, end the war on drugs, sex, rock n' roll and being M'arican AF.

Then get the feds out of HC followed by education. Back to the states.

I'd even like to see SS ended. States should run their own programs and SUCK IT when they fail because they were managed like shit.
 
Fiscal conservatism is dead.

There is no point anymore, it's too late.

We as a nation are in that euphoric self destruction mode where we've been laid off but the banks and credit cards that you'll never pay off anyhow don't know yet.

Might as well go grab a loan and set it all on fire right? :cool:
 
We don't need tax increases to fund most of what we are already overpaying an astronomical amount of money for.




Shit can the DEA/ATF too, end the war on drugs, sex, rock n' roll and being M'arican AF.

Then get the feds out of HC followed by education. Back to the states.

I'd even like to see SS ended. States should run their own programs and SUCK IT when they fail because they were managed like shit.

Sure, we can stop the war on the drugs. And at the same time stop funding rehab and prevention programs since obviously people aren't listening to the warnings or care about the thousands of people who die from drug use every year. Also, no more naloxone on the taxpayer dime. You want to do drugs, have it. You're on your own.
 
There is no point anymore, it's too late.

We as a nation are in that euphoric self destruction mode where we've been laid off but the banks and credit cards that you'll never pay off anyhow don't know yet.

Might as well go grab a loan and set it all on fire right? :cool:

A look at debtclock.org 5-10 years ago would show you are 100% right.

Sure, we can stop the war on the drugs. And at the same time stop funding rehab and prevention programs since obviously people aren't listening to the warnings or care about the thousands of people who die from drug use every year. Also, no more naloxone on the taxpayer dime. You want to do drugs, have it. You're on your own.

Why not? Bring back the concept of personal responsibility.

Do what you like, own the consequences.

Why do we teach Darwinism in the schools and then continue to salvage lives of those who are not improving the great gene pool?

I would completely eliminate the consumer product safety commission and add caps to torts for that reason alone, but ultimately because I'm a humanitarian concerned for the future of the species.
 
Sure, we can stop the war on the drugs. And at the same time stop funding rehab and prevention programs since obviously people aren't listening to the warnings or care about the thousands of people who die from drug use every year. Also, no more naloxone on the taxpayer dime. You want to do drugs, have it. You're on your own.

As far as the feds are concerned I totally agree.

I think dealing with your junkies should be a state thing, not federal.
 
Government was never meant to be the central focus of our lives, nor to invade everything we do. It's far too big and far too invasive. And the government continues to get bigger, by the very fact that it can continually take from the population to engorge itself.

There's only one answer: we must get back to basic government functions which supply the NEEDS of government, and roll back the onslaught of trying to supply every WANT.

The ONLY solution is to cut government funding, upon which it feeds. We MUST repeal the XVI'th Amendment (Income Tax) and return the checks and balances to let the states have parity with the Federal government. State legislatures must be the source of federal funding, with the ability to decide what requests the federal government has that they will actually fund. States need the right and responsibility of saying NO to the federal government. Federal intimidation by withholding funds must come to an end.

The national debt is now, and has been for many years out of control. How long will it be before the interest on the debt exceeds revenues? How many times will the debt ceiling be raised?

It's time to end the madness....

The biggest problem we have is our current health care crisis.
 
The biggest problem we have is our current health care crisis.

There is no crisis. If Americans wouldn't be so obese, the vast majority of health problems would go away.

But since that makes too much sense, people won't listen.
 
The biggest problem we have is our current health care crisis.

What health care crisis? The health care available today is the best the world has ever known, and is the envy of the world. People come to the US from all over, including dying world leaders, to receive the benefit of superior health care.

What you PROBABLY meant to say was that health care INSURANCE is sucking, and that's mainly a problem of having too much government and government pricing in that area. Get government out of the mix, and let people make their own health care choices in a competitive arena, and prices come down while getting the needed care, not all the add-ins.
 
What health care crisis? The health care available today is the best the world has ever known, and is the envy of the world. People come to the US from all over, including dying world leaders, to receive the benefit of superior health care.

What you PROBABLY meant to say was that health care INSURANCE is sucking, and that's mainly a problem of having too much government and government pricing in that area. Get government out of the mix, and let people make their own health care choices in a competitive arena, and prices come down while getting the needed care, not all the add-ins.

Approximately 29 million Americans are uninsured. Not having access to quality, affordable health care is a health care crisis.

Single-payer is the answer.
 
What health care crisis? The health care available today is the best the world has ever known, and is the envy of the world. People come to the US from all over, including dying world leaders, to receive the benefit of superior health care.

What you PROBABLY meant to say was that health care INSURANCE is sucking, and that's mainly a problem of having too much government and government pricing in that area. Get government out of the mix, and let people make their own health care choices in a competitive arena, and prices come down while getting the needed care, not all the add-ins.

Government, originally, had little to do with rising healthcare costs. It is directly attributable to insurance companies. Adam explains how capitalism drove up costs:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CeDOQpfaUc8

This goes back to what I repeatedly say, insurance is nothing but a scam.
 
Approximately 29 million Americans are uninsured. Not having access to quality, affordable health care is a health care crisis.

Single-payer is the answer.

Socialized medicine is something you have to experience to realize what a failure it is. I've witnessed firsthand the lack of care from a cattle call when it's 'free', the abuse of the medical staff that results in burn-out, and the appointments that may come in your lifetime, but maybe not. Please stop crying for 'single-payer'.

What kind of 'promise' is single payer? It's a little like the episode of the Twilight zone where the aliens come to Earth, with the book on culinary cures, only to discover that it's a cookbook, and they're transporting Earthlings back to their planet as food.
 
Isn't increased military spending and building a fucking wall big government?
 
This goes back to what I repeatedly say, insurance is nothing but a scam.
Private health insurance is indeed a very profitable leech-feeding scam. 'Life' (death) insurance isn't quite in that territory. Auto, home, property-casualty, and commercial insurance are absolutely vital for complex societies. But title insurance is a scam too; grin and bear it.

Isn't increased military spending and building a fucking wall big government?
You noticed! There's a truism:
Progressives like big gov't as long as it helps people.
Conservatives like big gov't so long as it kills people.​
More cops in multitudes of agencies. (Beware beer label enforcement.) More badges and guns given to high-turnover border guards. More cash for VERY expensive military hardwarez that don't work, and for a Pentagon that doesn't know how to win wars. More corporate subsidies. More more more...

Sin in Spanish means 'without', like sinagua, without water. Doing without is a sin. Gup gov't knows no sin. It grows and grows... by borrowing.

Tax-and-spend liberals are up front: You want it, you pay for it. California voters approved big taxes to fix infrastructure. Borrow-and-spend 'conservatives' pass the costs on to future generations. Blow money now, let the kids and grandkids pay for it. Real family-friendly, ain't they?

'Conservative' shuck-n-jive is utter bullshit. Flush it.
 
Progressives like big gov't as long as it helps people.
Conservatives like big gov't so long as it kills people.​

Looks like Abortion finally comes to an end on Tuesday, Liberals finally concede they're killing people by the millions!
 
Approximately 29 million Americans are uninsured. Not having access to quality, affordable health care is a health care crisis.

Single-payer is the answer.

That's not a health care crisis unless you sell HC insurance.

Single-payer is ONE answer of many.

Government, originally, had little to do with rising healthcare costs. It is directly attributable to insurance companies. Adam explains how capitalism drove up costs:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CeDOQpfaUc8

This goes back to what I repeatedly say, insurance is nothing but a scam.

I didn't hear him blame capitalism (private exchange of goods and services, prices determined by market) because he probably understands that what we have....isn't capitalism.

Could you explain exactly how it's capitalism that is behind the rising cost of our HC system?

Isn't increased military spending and building a fucking wall big government?

Yea, but not as big as taking over whole industries or restricting or ending civil rights.
 
Last edited:
Back
Top