The American jihadist: Ish, AJ and BB

[putzpotus]

STFU about any IMMIGRATION

tell us again LOUD MOUTH HOGAN about VETTING

Obama Officials Are Trained To Concentrate On Behavior, Not Religion Or Ideology Of People Entering U.S.

malik1

Retraining courtesy of CAIR. Clue, if they have the behavior of posting about wanting to commit jihad, that’s a clue…

Via Daily Caller:


its easier to pretend to IGNORE and poke fun at BUSYBODY then admit truth


DHS Monitoring Americans’ Social Media Accounts, But Not Those Of Visa Applicants


We’re just the citizens, not the terrorists, so it’s okay. And they’re monitoring the people who might be discussing their actions
Via Daily Caller:

 

[putzpotus]

an AMERICAN!

Former National Guardsman Pleads Guilty In ISIS Plot To Attack Illinois Armory


Its ISLAM stupid!


and you cant TELL the GOOD from teh BAD

Kick em all out or KILL EM ALL

 

[anchoredinocean]

Saudi Arabia announces 34-state Islamic military alliance against terrorism

I really hope that they consulted Ish about this and he is happy about the level of their response.

 

[putzpotus]

Saudi Arabia announces 34-state Islamic military alliance against terrorism

I really hope that they consulted Ish about this and he is happy about the level of their response.

another idiot who has no clue


must be a CuntClinton voter

 

[putzpotus]

The answer is the same way you could tell the good Germans, Japanese, and Italian from the bad during WW2

and how is that????????????????????

 

[ojomojohojo]

and how is that????????????????????

The good ones threw your family into the ovens.

 

[putzpotus]

No doubt

But your family as well

 

[miles]

The good ones threw your family into the ovens.

Alt cunt.

 

[Ishmael]

Thanks to Ish’s “War” thread, I finally figured out why we are in danger of losing the war against militant Islamic jihadists. It is the successful recruitment of American jihadists. Not American jihadists like Syed Farook. American jihadists like Literotica’s own: Ish, AJ and whatever alt BusyBody is using today.

Islamic militants have convinced our boys and much of the American political right that the literal, verbatim English translation of the Quran IS the theologically accurate and most faithful expression of the prophet’s original intent. ALL Muslim’s are instructed to kill all non-believers without mercy and in the most brutal fashion. They may readily lie about any aspect of their faith and/or lives to gain or maintain a strategic tyrannical advantage over the “enemy,” which, of course, are ALL non-Muslims. Muslims may not question any aspect of their teachings and because the words “say what they say” and “mean what they mean,” no figurative or alternative interpretation is possible. No Muslim can dispute the authority of this dogma, and none can resist its pull.

If any Muslim tells you differently, he or she is obviously lying because, well, they have been given that license, don’tcha see? It’s their duty.

That’s the fundamentalist Islamic nutbag line, and our boys have bought it lock, stock and scimitar. Hail, the American Jihadist. Allah, Akbar!!

And ISIS and Al Qaeda couldn’t be happier. In a world where the enemy of my enemy is my friend, the easiest way to make a friend – sometimes the only way if you’re having trouble – is to manipulate one’s enemy to make more enemies. Friendships then tend to spring from places you would least expect to find them.

It happened in World War II. Germany’s non-aggression pact with Russia was unlikely given long differences between the two nations. And while Russia was never a member of the German-Italian-Japanese axis, a quiet Eastern front was an enormous German advantage. And then Hitler goes and practically gives victory to the allies by forcing the most unlikely alliance of all – that of capitalism and communism.

An all-out war against Islam will literally force Muslims who have no desire to do so to take up arms against us. It is exactly what ISIS wants because there is no other way for it to realistically accomplish its global objective otherwise.

Of course, there is another side to this same coin that is even MORE absurd. The liberals’ fear of retaliating with devastating force against a savage enemy lest they be aided in “recruiting” is literally mind blowing. The idea that the majority of moderate Muslims are going to instantly transform into jihadist warriors against Western nations merely because those nations exercise the right to defend themselves is but another shade of the same illogic that tries to force all Muslims into the same fundamentalist pigeonhole by default.

Equally nonsensical is the contortionist attempt at neutral language that divorces Islamic fundamentalism from Islam itself. It’s not as if the rest of Islam is unaware of the theological hijacking that is taking place, but it does seem as if that the rest of America seems blind to the fact that moderate Muslims are themselves the primary target of this malignancy and, from their perspective, have as much if not more to lose (and far, far sooner) than most Westerners will ever come close to experiencing. The idea that moderate Muslims would be offended by the mere American awareness that the terrorist agenda of ISIS and Al Qaeda is something other than vaguely generic is both illogical and irrelevant – illogical for reasons previously mentioned and irrelevant because who gives a damn if they were? Winning a fight in self-defense is the whole point of the battle.

Pretending jihad isn't Islamic serves no good purpose. It only paints a picture that the apologist is a naive submissive ripe for the exploitation. Stop that.

Instead, let’s get on about the business we must do. Destroy only that which we must destroy and preserve all else. Kill only the enemy and leave these gullible saps at either political extreme to their own paranoia.

My goodness, you've imbibed in the Kool-Aid.

Let's start with your 'translation' point. It has LONG been asserted that the Qu'ran is only valid in Arabic. Most strongly by the Arab's (go figure). That the Qu'ran in any other language simply isn't the Qu'ran and that the translations are, as an understatement, imperfect. Regardless, that assertion reflects considerably more of a linguistic prejudice than an argument that holds up to close examination. The Mu'tazilite's, remember them, they that were responsible for the 'Golden Age of Islam', translated the Greek and Roman classics into Arabic/Aramaic thus preserving those works for posterity. At the end of the Dark Ages we translated them back into the various languages and that's the only reason we have many of those works today. One of the many valuable services performed by the Mu'tazilite's. There is no ongoing, heated, debates regarding the translation of those classics. Minor issues arise from time to time but those issues are of considerably more concern to academics than the general reader. So the Arab argument that we 'can't' understand the Qu'ran unless read in Arabic is bull shit. There are more than one translation into English out there and there no profound difference in those translations.

Regarding 'offending' them and providing recruitment fodder. Everything we do or say not in keeping with their faith and traditions is offensive to them and is used as recruitment material. This website, the hardcore sites, how we live our lives, our freedoms, even our punishment of the most extreme of their malefactors. Gitmo is a recruitment tool. Would imprisoning them at Leavenworth be less offensive? How about just executing them (which we should have done)? The public celebration of our holidays seems to incense them as well be they Christmas or Hanuka. They react similarly to Hindu celebrations so it's unlikely that their ire is totally focused on Western Religions. My point being that using the excuse that we'll provide them 'recruiting material' is a straw man argument. Without total submission to their will (which after all is the Will of Allah) they have ample other Western beliefs and practices to draw upon as recruitment material. What is going on today is nothing more than an extension of the school of Theological thought that started with al Asha'ri a thousand years ago. A medieval philosophy with modern weapons, marvelous.

Will 'taking it to the enemy' force some fence sitters over the edge? Of course it will. My argument there is as it has always been, they were already predisposed to jihad and sympathetic to the active practitioners thereof. There are ample enough polls out there to support that assertion. What else could you expect from a religion that actively preaches violence as a legitimate means to realize religious dominance? In that respect the religion as a whole is a philosophical Anti-Christ.

Concluding, it seems you too have fallen into the 'all or nothing' camp of the polemic extremist. Asserting by inference that I advocate the killing of all Muslims. That is patently untrue. Only as many as is needed to force them to begin re-evaluating their religion and philosophically evolving it into that which is consistent with a modern world. There are quite enough friction points between nations without having to deal with 800,000,000 religious fanatics hell bent on murdering the other 6.2 billion of us. Without concerted action on our part, not pin-pricks but real decisive action, we will succumb to their demands. Europe is already compromised, perhaps irretrievably so. Leaving Russia and China to pick up the pieces, which they will if forced to do so.

Ishmael

 

[Disgustipated]

*snip the bullshit*
Asserting by inference that I advocate the killing of all Muslims.

Ishmael

By inference, you mean using your own words, right?

 

[putzpotus]

This is for LUCID people to read

http://thefederalist.com/2015/12/10/know-your-tropes-for-exploiting-terrorism/

Know Your Tropes For Exploiting Terrorism


Not so fast, VapidHogan

 

[RobDownSouth]

This is for LUCID people to read

http://thefederalist.com/2015/12/10/know-your-tropes-for-exploiting-terrorism/

Know Your Tropes For Exploiting Terrorism


Not so fast, VapidHogan

Speakin' of tropes, that editorial was a classic Gish Gallop

I can see why it has such appeal to you.

Merry Jew Christmas anyway!

 

[putzpotus]

All LAUSD schools closed after bomb threat


and VAPIDHOGAN is pissed that some cunt raghead feels uncomfy wearing LAUNDRY

FUCK YOU HOGAN

 

[putzpotus]

All LAUSD schools closed after bomb threat


and VAPIDHOGAN is pissed that some cunt raghead feels uncomfy wearing LAUNDRY

FUCK YOU HOGAN

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-all-lausd-schools-closed-threat-20151215-story.html

 

[putzpotus]

NY schools threatened as well

Degenerate Hogan worries about a cunt that feels bad about laundry

 

[putzpotus]

Breaking: All Los Angeles Public Schools Closed Due To ‘Credible Terror Threat’…Update: LAUSD To Search All 900 Schools, ‘Backpacks And Packages’ Mentioned In Threat…Update: NYC Says Received ‘Same Threat’, Concluded It Was Hoax…Update: Threat Came From IP In Frankfurt Germany


and HUSSEIN OBAMA BIN SOETRO employs advice by DementedPIGHogan

Obama To Speak Today To Battle ‘Hateful Talk’ Against Muslims, Will Meet With Muslim Leaders This Week To Address Discrimination Against Muslims

 

[Colonel Hogan]

Concluding, it seems you too have fallen into the 'all or nothing' camp of the polemic extremist. Asserting by inference that I advocate the killing of all Muslims. That is patently untrue. Only as many as is needed to force them to begin re-evaluating their religion and philosophically evolving it into that which is consistent with a modern world. There are quite enough friction points between nations without having to deal with 800,000,000 religious fanatics hell bent on murdering the other 6.2 billion of us. Without concerted action on our part, not pin-pricks but real decisive action, we will succumb to their demands. Europe is already compromised, perhaps irretrievably so. Leaving Russia and China to pick up the pieces, which they will if forced to do so.

Okay, walk me through this again.

"We" can't tell the good guys from the bad, but somehow YOU can discern who appropriately falls into the category of casualties comprising "only as many as needed."

If you can't understand my posts (and clearly you cannot) stop wasting your time by reading them and our time by responding to them.

 

[RobDownSouth]

Glenn Greenwald quoting the 2004 Rumsfeld commission study today..
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CWRdTDFVAAABO-F.png

 

[Colonel Hogan]

Glenn Greenwald quoting the 2004 Rumsfeld commission study today..
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CWRdTDFVAAABO-F.png

I wonder if Glenn will ever tell us why he cited an 11-year-old report today? It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that Muslims would deplore our Middle East policies, particularly our support for Israel.

But the specific event precipitating the Bin Laden fatwa against the United States was our deployment to the Holy lands of Saudi Arabia, not for the purpose of waging war against Islam, but to come to the aid of one Muslim country suffering aggression from another at the specific request of a third Muslim country who was our ally.

Bin Laden's beef was that we were committing an abomination simply by being there. It didn't help that his own offer to repel the Iraq invasion of Kuwait was rebuffed by the Saudi royal family.

Everyone forgets this bit of history, but everything we're going through today, even our second invasion of Iraq flows from it.

 

[RobDownSouth]

I wonder if Glenn will ever tell us why he cited an 11-year-old report today? It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that Muslims would deplore our Middle East policies, particularly our support for Israel.

But the specific event precipitating the Bin Laden fatwa against the United States was our deployment to the Holy lands of Saudi Arabia, not for the purpose of waging war against Islam, but to come to the aid of one Muslim country suffering aggression from another at the specific request of a third Muslim country who was our ally.

Bin Laden's beef was that we were committing an abomination simply by being there. It didn't help that his own offer to repel the Iraq invasion of Kuwait was rebuffed by the Saudi royal family.

Everyone forgets this bit of history, but everything we're going through today, even our second invasion of Iraq flows from it.

My understanding was that Bin Laden and his fellow conservative nationalists REALLY disliked the Americans establishing a forward Air Force base (Prince Sultan AFB) in the hinterlands of Saudi Arabia to drop bombs between the minarets down the Casbah way. (We continued to insist we had only "defensive" aircraft there, like AWACS)

Plus our unstinting support of some extremely sketchy Israeli provocations didn't help matters either.

Bush the first was always chummy with the Saudi aristorcracy. When Clinton was elected and things went in the toilet, the neocons sought to remedy the situation by invadin' Iraq and establishing a "friendly" base there under Chalabi. Except the Iraqis never did cotton to the carpetbagger Chalabi.

 

[Colonel Hogan]

My understanding was that Bin Laden and his fellow conservative nationalists REALLY disliked the Americans establishing a forward Air Force base (Prince Sultan AFB) in the hinterlands of Saudi Arabia to drop bombs between the minarets down the Casbah way. (We continued to insist we had only "defensive" aircraft there, like AWACS)

Plus our unstinting support of some extremely sketchy Israeli provocations didn't help matters either.

Bush the first was always chummy with the Saudi aristorcracy. When Clinton was elected and things went in the toilet, the neocons sought to remedy the situation by invadin' Iraq and establishing a "friendly" base there under Chalabi. Except the Iraqis never did cotton to the carpetbagger Chalabi.

I don't think your understanding is substantially different from mine, but perhaps a bit more detailed. I do know Bin Laden was rebuffed by the House of Saud with respect to Kuwait.

Of course, when he issued the fatwa there was a ton of other grievances he was happy to throw in.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Thanks to Ish’s “War” thread, I finally figured out why we are in danger of losing the war against militant Islamic jihadists. It is the successful recruitment of American jihadists. Not American jihadists like Syed Farook. American jihadists like Literotica’s own: Ish, AJ and whatever alt BusyBody is using today.

Islamic militants have convinced our boys and much of the American political right that the literal, verbatim English translation of the Quran IS the theologically accurate and most faithful expression of the prophet’s original intent. ALL Muslim’s are instructed to kill all non-believers without mercy and in the most brutal fashion. They may readily lie about any aspect of their faith and/or lives to gain or maintain a strategic tyrannical advantage over the “enemy,” which, of course, are ALL non-Muslims. Muslims may not question any aspect of their teachings and because the words “say what they say” and “mean what they mean,” no figurative or alternative interpretation is possible. No Muslim can dispute the authority of this dogma, and none can resist its pull.

If any Muslim tells you differently, he or she is obviously lying because, well, they have been given that license, don’tcha see? It’s their duty.

That’s the fundamentalist Islamic nutbag line, and our boys have bought it lock, stock and scimitar. Hail, the American Jihadist. Allah, Akbar!!

And ISIS and Al Qaeda couldn’t be happier. In a world where the enemy of my enemy is my friend, the easiest way to make a friend – sometimes the only way if you’re having trouble – is to manipulate one’s enemy to make more enemies. Friendships then tend to spring from places you would least expect to find them.

It happened in World War II. Germany’s non-aggression pact with Russia was unlikely given long differences between the two nations. And while Russia was never a member of the German-Italian-Japanese axis, a quiet Eastern front was an enormous German advantage. And then Hitler goes and practically gives victory to the allies by forcing the most unlikely alliance of all – that of capitalism and communism.

An all-out war against Islam will literally force Muslims who have no desire to do so to take up arms against us. It is exactly what ISIS wants because there is no other way for it to realistically accomplish its global objective otherwise.

Of course, there is another side to this same coin that is even MORE absurd. The liberals’ fear of retaliating with devastating force against a savage enemy lest they be aided in “recruiting” is literally mind blowing. The idea that the majority of moderate Muslims are going to instantly transform into jihadist warriors against Western nations merely because those nations exercise the right to defend themselves is but another shade of the same illogic that tries to force all Muslims into the same fundamentalist pigeonhole by default.

Equally nonsensical is the contortionist attempt at neutral language that divorces Islamic fundamentalism from Islam itself. It’s not as if the rest of Islam is unaware of the theological hijacking that is taking place, but it does seem as if that the rest of America seems blind to the fact that moderate Muslims are themselves the primary target of this malignancy and, from their perspective, have as much if not more to lose (and far, far sooner) than most Westerners will ever come close to experiencing. The idea that moderate Muslims would be offended by the mere American awareness that the terrorist agenda of ISIS and Al Qaeda is something other than vaguely generic is both illogical and irrelevant – illogical for reasons previously mentioned and irrelevant because who gives a damn if they were? Winning a fight in self-defense is the whole point of the battle.

Pretending jihad isn't Islamic serves no good purpose. It only paints a picture that the apologist is a naive submissive ripe for the exploitation. Stop that.

Instead, let’s get on about the business we must do. Destroy only that which we must destroy and preserve all else. Kill only the enemy and leave these gullible saps at either political extreme to their own paranoia.

This was a masterful attempt to say for me something which you could not get me to say for you to prove your point.

Well done. I'm sure that you got a lot of positive leg-humping from the lovers of the faith...

:shrug:

I guess when any standard will do, a low one is just as good as a high one and a lot easier to attain.

 

[putzpotus]

this is for teh PUTRIG PIG, Hogan who has no guts and is afraid to look

Dont shove the SHIT of some cunt feeling uncomfy wearing shit on teh head

ITS TIME WE DO TAKE ACTION...RIP OFF TEH LAUNDRY attack MOSQUES, makes them so uncomfy they FUCKING go back to the SHIT HOLE they came from

MORE THAN PAST TIME: Liberals need to stop flattering Islam and ask tough questions instead.

http://nypost.com/2015/12/13/liberals-need-to-stop-flattering-islam-and-ask-tough-questions-instead/

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

this is for teh PUTRIG PIG, Hogan who has no guts and is afraid to look

Dont shove the SHIT of some cunt feeling uncomfy wearing shit on teh head

ITS TIME WE DO TAKE ACTION...RIP OFF TEH LAUNDRY attack MOSQUES, makes them so uncomfy they FUCKING go back to the SHIT HOLE they came from

MORE THAN PAST TIME: Liberals need to stop flattering Islam and ask tough questions instead.

http://nypost.com/2015/12/13/liberals-need-to-stop-flattering-islam-and-ask-tough-questions-instead/

And you lump me in with this?

#putz

 

[putzpotus]