the absence of feeling/sex/passion

toffeegyrl

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"This is a diary of hate."

Thus begins the movie "The End of The Affair", which I am watching now, and loving.

I'm struck by the passion in the movie, and thus the lack thereof in my personal life (too much information, perhaps, but truth) and the lives of those around me and in popular culture.

Is passion necessarily confined to illicit affairs? What, then constitues an 'affair'? Extramarital? Extra-relationship? Sex?

What and why has passion been so sadly and lazily (in American pop culture, anyway) reduced only to sex? And so tawdrily, as well! (Forgive me, I've been tortured by commercial radio for the past hour and a half).

Don't mind me...I'm just envying Ralph Fiennes and Julianne Moore. Maybe I just miss romance. And passion.

Hell, And sex.

Ah well.
 
You'll never find romance in a movie. You must resist.
 
I HOPE that passion hasn't been reduced to just sex. Otherwise, I'm in DEEP...trouble. But, in some cases, I think it has.
 
Loved that film. Excellent performances all around.

As far as what constitutes an affair, that has to be defined in each individual relationship. If you're doing somethig that you know would hurt your s/o, damage your relationship and erode trust, it is probably not good. The way I see it is this: my husband knows I am a big flirt and that while we are apart I am enjoying a few cyber-relationships to pass the time and fulfill (a bit) my lbidinous urges. I f however I were actually out fucking people he would hate that. Now would an intimate ongoing cyber thing, where I have grown to know and care about people a bit, more or less damaging to our marriage than a one night stand or two with no emotional involvement? I am enjoying getting to know my cyberplaymates and am learning a bit about myself in the process, which I think will actually enhance my relationship with my husband in the long run. I have had some very passsionate exchanges that I have enjoyed a great deal. But I also know there is a 'real life' boundary that I am not willing to cross. However, for other people in their relationships, the line in the sand might be in a different spot.
 
One of my favorite movies is "An Affair to Remember", and I don't think passion in relationships is gone just not talked about by those who are in love.
And the thing about the idea of just sex is something I'm not sure about, Sex is fun and we all know that but the act of making love to the person your in love with makes just the act of sex seem a waste of time and effort in comparison.
 
LOVED this movie.

toffeegyrl said:
"This is a diary of hate."

Thus begins the movie "The End of The Affair", which I am watching now, and loving.

I'm struck by the passion in the movie, and thus the lack thereof in my personal life (too much information, perhaps, but truth) and the lives of those around me and in popular culture.

Is passion necessarily confined to illicit affairs? What, then constitues an 'affair'? Extramarital? Extra-relationship? Sex?

What and why has passion been so sadly and lazily (in American pop culture, anyway) reduced only to sex? And so tawdrily, as well! (Forgive me, I've been tortured by commercial radio for the past hour and a half).

Don't mind me...I'm just envying Ralph Fiennes and Julianne Moore. Maybe I just miss romance. And passion.

Hell, And sex.

Ah well.

I don't think passion is confined to just illicit affairs but it takes tremendous work and love on both parties to have in a regular relationship.

Dunno about your 2nd question... might actually be the reason why I tend to find European men more interesting and romantic than American men. (don't hate me for saying this... I'm just a romantic person looking for the same)

Wasn't the chemistry between Ralph and Julianne just awesome? It's one of my favorite movies. :)
 
I think we have approached our boundaries when that little voice inside speaks to us, when our conscious tells us so. Its many things to different people, but it's our own hearts we must listen to.

I really do not feel passion is confined to illicit affairs, not in the least. (I think that has more to do with wanderlust.) Passion begins in the mind, and must be fed. We have to get in touch with our selves, we have to know what our triggers and kinks are, we have to know what moves us, what brings us to our knees. When we know this, passion is endless....it just builds and builds.

I'm not having an affair with anyone, yet I am consumed in passion. :)
 
toffeegyrl said:
"This is a diary of hate."

Thus begins the movie "The End of The Affair", which I am watching now, and loving.

I'm struck by the passion in the movie, and thus the lack thereof in my personal life (too much information, perhaps, but truth) and the lives of those around me and in popular culture.

Is passion necessarily confined to illicit affairs? What, then constitues an 'affair'? Extramarital? Extra-relationship? Sex?

What and why has passion been so sadly and lazily (in American pop culture, anyway) reduced only to sex? And so tawdrily, as well! (Forgive me, I've been tortured by commercial radio for the past hour and a half).

Don't mind me...I'm just envying Ralph Fiennes and Julianne Moore. Maybe I just miss romance. And passion.

Hell, And sex.

Ah well.



You just want me and you know it! :D
 
dangit!

Ssssh!!!!


tell everybody, whydontcha??

sheesh!

:)


I mean, I do, but that's not the point here.
 
Re: dangit!

toffeegyrl said:
Ssssh!!!!


tell everybody, whydontcha??

sheesh!

:)


I mean, I do, but that's not the point here.

Oh, there's going to be a point alright! :devil:
 
*grin*

A point, huh?

You gonna help me do some research or what?

(I hope I hope I hope)
 
Re: *grin*

toffeegyrl said:
A point, huh?

You gonna help me do some research or what?

(I hope I hope I hope)


Ma'am, i'm a polite northerner. I can't discuss points with a southern wench like yourself.
 
why has passion been so sadly and lazily reduced only to sex?


I create art masterpieces that double as functional stairs. I recently stood in front of an extraordinary piece of my woodwork and told a proud homeowner that I had made passionate love to his stair for hundreds of hours. I was almost moved to tears as I retraced the fine lines and seductive curves. I could feel the resistance of the wood as I had sanded and polished her features. The memory of my passion was vivid and hot. I heard the homeowner at my side exhale in disbelief, and then I turned and smiled. He knew in an instant, that he had been given the gift of my soul through my art.


I feel for those who have only passion for sex. Passion is such a diverse fuel for our minds and wills. It is compact and travels well. It can handle most climates and never seems to go out of fashion. It can erupt with the ferocity of a volcano, or quietly age like a fine wine, and satisfy a craving with just a sip. When I am weak and tired, just the memory of passion's scent can send fire into my veins...in an instant, it can boil in my eyes. Passion is alive in my life. It dances on my tongue when I talk of creation and complexity. It guides my chisel when the grain of life is cursing my way. For me, passion is just the road that I travel...often alone.
 
Ma'am, i'm a polite northerner. I can't discuss points with a southern wench like yourself.

Wench? wench?!

Why suh, I have tayken offense!
<getting out gloves>

I demaynd satisfactshun!
 
Unregistered said:
why has passion been so sadly and lazily reduced only to sex?


I create art masterpieces that double as functional stairs. I recently stood in front of an extraordinary piece of my woodwork and told a proud homeowner that I had made passionate love to his stair for hundreds of hours. I was almost moved to tears as I retraced the fine lines and seductive curves. I could feel the resistance of the wood as I had sanded and polished her features. The memory of my passion was vivid and hot. I heard the homeowner at my side exhale in disbelief, and then I turned and smiled. He knew in an instant, that he had been given the gift of my soul through my art.


I feel for those who have only passion for sex. Passion is such a diverse fuel for our minds and wills. It is compact and travels well. It can handle most climates and never seems to go out of fashion. It can erupt with the ferocity of a volcano, or quietly age like a fine wine, and satisfy a craving with just a sip. When I am weak and tired, just the memory of passion's scent can send fire into my veins...in an instant, it can boil in my eyes. Passion is alive in my life. It dances on my tongue when I talk of creation and complexity. It guides my chisel when the grain of life is cursing my way. For me, passion is just the road that I travel...often alone.

Well stated, passion is for all of life, for me its in stone :)
 
True Passion is dead in our society as whole because it cannot be bought or sold..it comes from your very core..soul.... The only way to live a passionate life is to be outside the boundries of normal society....unfornately its very lonely out here at times...but even that aching for another...is passion.....is beautiful in itself..
 
sufisaint said:
True Passion is dead in our society as whole because it cannot be bought or sold..it comes from your very core..soul.... The only way to live a passionate life is to be outside the boundries of normal society....unfornately its very lonely out here at times...but even that aching for another...is passion.....is beautiful in itself..
Wow!
 
While there is sensuality between my lady and I (to the extent there can be from 900 miles distant) there is also great passion. An aching hunger to be near each other. Long phone conversations at night and quick "hello - I love you's" during the day.
 
IrishWolfhound said:
While there is sensuality between my lady and I (to the extent there can be from 900 miles distant) there is also great passion. An aching hunger to be near each other. Long phone conversations at night and quick "hello - I love you's" during the day.

Lingerie make good gift. Weigths nothing, cheap to mail and means a lot if warps in a love letter.
 
Re: LOVED this movie.

oceanbaby28 said:
I don't think passion is confined to just illicit affairs but it takes tremendous work and love on both parties to have in a regular relationship.

Exactly.

You can either spend all your time finding partners, then ditching them as soon as the fire is out... or you can find someone you truly love & like & is your friend, and put in the extra work to make the passion happen.

In my limited experience, the second option is the way to live. :)
 
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