texas lawmaker proposes bill that would see 3rd graders manning bleed stations

[butters]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/t...p&cvid=74a6b6f0a2c74f81922e697048b6d5a7&ei=12

Licensed counseling psychologist Dr. Christopher Hansen told the news outlet, "We have thousands of veterans, first responders, doctors, and nurses who do this professionally and are trained to deal with it. Obviously, they come up with a lot of problems, PTSD, anxiety, depressive disorders, etc. Why on earth would we do that to our children?"

the lawmaker says it could save lives.

send your tot to school; prepare them with a bulletproof backpack; prepare them to take evasive action and hide if a shooter tries to kill them and their friends; prepare them to be searched and go through security gates before heading into class; prepare them for the sight of openly armed 'security'; prepare them to save the lives of their shot to shit little buddies.

bring back the good old days of reading, writing, math and 'don't run in the hallways'

 

[Dribble]

People laughed at me 2 years ago when I started talking that there is no way to save everything...that States needed to start thinking about how to leave the insanity behind in a chance to save their citizens. Yet in the 2 years...has anyone even suggested anything that would fix the problem? Nope.

Sorry...you can't fix a broken system using a broken system.

 

[Paul_Chance]

It could save lives. I personally think kids are never to young to learn the basics of emergency care, which would include immediate aide in the event of severe bleeding, as in a gun shot wound, or what they are more likely to encounter, which is a variety of home or playground related injuries. Having the trauma kits available, and training everyone in their use, is a good thing. Training also lessens the psychological impact of traumatic events as it helps to alleviate the feeling of helplessness that is a major component of PTSD.

(Cool quote in your signature and I would agree with Anand G.)

 

[Philthy_Phil]

America. Lol

 

[jaF0]

This is another one that's all about who is proposing it, when, why and how they go about it. Simple fact is, Cub Scouts, Boy Scouts, Brownies and Girl Scouts as well as 4H clubs and a whole host of others teach kids first aid which includes stopping bleeding.

 

[Lazaran]

Do some people only get the point when you pin the tail on their ass???

The point is that school shootings are now so common that kids basically have to become trained medics.

The propriety of the training is really besides the point.

JFC

SAD!!!

 

[jaF0]

Traffic accidents, severe weather, falls off bicycles, injuries at school sporting events, farm accidents, in home accidents and so on are far more common and first aid training is never really wrong or shocking.

 

[butters]

while i'd agree that basic first aid training is a valuable tool that could actually be taught as part of the school's curriculum in a non-threatening situation, this is throwing very young children into the fire expecting them to address horrific situations they should never be subjected to BECAUSE of adults and their 'second amendment rights'. Kids should be allowed to experience school for the sake of curious minds with a view to improving society—not put them in the position of being worried every day they might be expected to deal with the trauma of a shit show shoot up in school.

the most simple basic training would have value, like knowing about the recovery position, making sure electrical sources are turned off before touching a suspected electrocution, how to recognize and act to someone having a seizure, all those sorts of things, but the main emphasis would be on helping make a situation safe while alerting an ADULT to deal with the situation.

 

[BabyBoomer50s]

Memo to the usual hyper-lefties: Bleeding can be caused by things other than bullets. The bill does not require kids to treat bleeding. HTH.

 

[Pad_Foot]

We’re talking battlefield injuries

You need to rewatch all of MASH

These little tykes ain’t holding together pieces of their friends like HawkEye.

First Aid? Great!!

Saying “keep the guns flowing, the little kids can tie tourniquets” I’d freaking insane equal to “Believe in God’s plan”

God had a simple law on this. THREE major religions are based on those Commandments. Shit, they are putting them up in Texan schools!! Wtf does your gun have to do with “Thou Shalt not Kill” even if you bit scared

 

[Lady2020]

Texas GOP = mass murderers

 

[phrodeau]

Not only does it fill the immediate need for health care providers, but also instills in children the necessity of prophylaxis.

 

[Mrtenant]

3rd graders. Battlefield trauma. Tourniquets, gunshot wounds, chest compresses.

Most adults can't or don't wanna learn that stuff.

It's insanity.

Picture this... there is a mass shooting at a local school. Your kid is supposed to calmly find a bleeding station, apply battlefield triage to a bleeding classmate or a teacher.

A third grader. Really?

 

[Escierto]

In Texas, it’s kill or be killed. Every school child here should be prepared for a massacre at some point, either in school or in a public place. It’s a place where the Christian Taliban rule and that means the freedom to use your AK47 to kill your neighbors. That’s the Texas way!

 

[Dribble]

Well...it does teach 3rd Graders that they can't count on police...teachers...parents...to force their legislators to do the right thing. Must be nice growing up knowing there is NO ONE YOU CAN COUNT ON

 

[Paul_Chance]

Though I don't agree with @Dribble's "there is no one you can count on", I don't think a child is ever to young to start learning the first person you count on is yourself, and then your friends.

Without getting lost in the grade three level in the proposal, a huge benefit from such a proposal is also it's requirement to have such kits available in school. Hell, I have one in my car and one in my house, both specifically designed for mass trauma - never had to use either kit*, hopefully never will. But it's there.

*I assembled both kits about fifteen years ago, after having pulled into the local liquor store about one minute after a robbery gone bad and having to deal with a serious gunshot wound with my t-shirt and a bar towel until police arrived. It would have been a whole lot easier if I'd have had the proper tools. (Being prior LE and military, I had the training and experience.) You may never need such a kit, but having one just in case is always a good idea.