suicide

[Emerald_Dragon]

There are so many factors that play into mental health that I think everyone must be concidered on a case by case basis. Family dynamics, genetics and everything else.

My mother once told me that she contemplated hanging herself when I was a child. Alcoholic husband, and her own depression and complete lack of self esteme and the shame of not wanting anyone to know how bad things were. The only reason she didn't was us kids, she couldn't leave us to face him by ourselves.

I think that if she had commited suicide it would have seriously impacted me an the rest of the family. Especially since being diagnosed with post partum depression that I am still on meds for after 5 years. God knows dealing with a fairly messed up childhood (as an adult) was hard enough with her support. I can't imagine what it would have been like without her.

 

[lisa123414]

Oh Emerald,
your post made me cry. Please call your mom, and tell her, again, how much good she has done by sticking around.
hugs
Lisa

 

[Skip1934a]

I have first hand experience with suicide. And I've learned that no two are exactly alike. I lost my 19 year old son in 1976 to suicide. His girlfriend wouldn't go to bed with him. That's what his torn up note on hthe bed said. He came home early, stomping through the house, saying not a word. We had guests over and were playing bridge. A few minutes later we heard the gunshot One bullet through the head from MY military 1911A .45 cal. automatic. I held him in my arms until the paramedics arrived and took him to a helicopter pad for a flight to Louisville KY from Fort Knox. We had to drive there, and found he had died in flight. Blood and brains were scattered all over the room, even on the ceiling. It's not a pretty sight, people. And everybody suffers but the deceased. For years. Thirty-one years later, I still have nightmares about it.

So anybody thinking about it, think. What kind of mess will you leave behind for loved ones to cope with? Do you really want to do that to the lives you've touched?

 

[dr_mabeuse]

I have first hand experience with suicide. And I've learned that no two are exactly alike. I lost my 19 year old son in 1976 to suicide. His girlfriend wouldn't go to bed with him. That's what his torn up note on hthe bed said. He came home early, stomping through the house, saying not a word. We had guests over and were playing bridge. A few minutes later we heard the gunshot One bullet through the head from MY military 1911A .45 cal. automatic. I held him in my arms until the paramedics arrived and took him to a helicopter pad for a flight to Louisville KY from Fort Knox. We had to drive there, and found he had died in flight. Blood and brains were scattered all over the room, even on the ceiling. It's not a pretty sight, people. And everybody suffers but the deceased. For years. Thirty-one years later, I still have nightmares about it.

So anybody thinking about it, think. What kind of mess will you leave behind for loved ones to cope with? Do you really want to do that to the lives you've touched?

You have my deepest sympathies, Skip. I lost my best friend to suicide in college, for similar, ridiculously trivial reasons, a girl he broke up with. He was despondent, angry, didn't give a fuck, put a gun to his eye and pulled the trigger. That's all it took to just destroy so many lives, the ultimate selfish, angry gesture. We were picking up pieces of his brain with a spoon and putting them into a coffee cup. How do you clean up the death of a friend?

I recovered. His parents never did. The girl thought it was terrible but she assumed--quite correctly--that he was simply insane. If she was supposed to be devastated by his death, she wasn't.

He shouldn't have done it. At his age he should have taken the pain. When you have people who love you you owe it to them to live for them

I had another friend commit suicide after he was diagnosed with advanced mesothelioma. There was nothing they could do for him and they gave him I forget how many months to live. He just couldn't take it. For him it was different. His death was tragic too, but it was understandable. He didn't want to be a burden and he didn't want to go through that meaningless pain.

An interesting statistic: In the USA, more guns are used for suicides than for homicides.

 

[Skip1934a]

I had another friend commit suicide after he was diagnosed with advanced mesothelioma. There was nothing they could do for him and they gave him I forget how many months to live. He just couldn't take it. For him it was different. His death was tragic too, but it was understandable. He didn't want to be a burden and he didn't want to go through that meaningless pain.

An interesting statistic: In the USA, more guns are used for suicides than for homicides.

Thank you for you kind response. I certainly agree that there are different reasons to take one's own life. When quality of life goes to zero with no hope of recovery. it's understandable that someone would like to end it all. Those are generally premeditated and in some cases even assisted. And I think most loved ones understand this too. It's the senseless ones that cause so much pain for those left behind, be they premeditated or spontaneous.

 

[FallingToFly]

Discuss

Tempting.

Far too tempting, some days.

But I made a promise, and i have to keep it. Even if it means I die a little more every day inside, I'll stick it out.

 

[Skip1934a]

Tempting.

Far too tempting, some days.

But I made a promise, and i have to keep it. Even if it means I die a little more every day inside, I'll stick it out.

You'd better. Your kids need you to hang around for a while longer.

Have a nice Thanksgiving, Falling. (and the rest of you, too,)