Subconscious Decision Making

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You might be better off not even thinking about your major life decisions. Just let your subconscious figure it out.

From World Science Digest

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If you’re facing a big decision, such as buying a car or a house, collecting the relevant information is important. But once you’ve done your homework, it’s best to forget about the decision for a time and let your unconscious churn through the options, researchers have found.

The scientists found in a new study that letting the unconscious temporarily take over leads to better outcomes than using mainly conscious deliberations to make the same decision.

The unconscious mind, in psychology, is that part of thought and emotion that happens without awareness.

Ap Dijksterhuis and colleagues at the University of Amsterdam, The Netherlands, studied people making simple and complex decisions regarding cars, furniture, shampoo, oven mitts and other goods. The experiments took place both in the lab and at furniture and department stores.

In the car-shopping experiments, participants were asked to read a complex series of facts about cars they were to choose from. They were then immediately given puzzles called anagrams to distract their conscious, or aware, selves.

After working on the puzzles, this group made more satisfying car choices than the participants who were given no puzzles and had to choose after consciously pondering the information, the researchers found. The former group ended up more satisfied with their decisions than the latter.

During conscious deliberation, people only consider a subset of the relevant information and might inappropriately weight it, according to Dijksterhuis’ team. In contrast, the human unconscious can integrate wider swaths of information, which may lead to more satisfying results when decisions are complicated.

On the other hand, they found, simple decisions like choosing shampoo are made satisfactorily after attentive or effortful deliberation. This is presumably because the limited number of factors can easily be handled and weighted appropriately, they reported.

“It should benefit the individual to think consciously about simple matters and to delegate thinking about more complex matters to the unconscious,” they wrote in a paper on their findings, published in the Feb. 17 issue of the research journal Science.

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Funky. Reminds me of something else I saw on tv a while ago.

Apparently, most of the desicions you make in your everyday life (simple things like picking up a cup to drink, reaching for your car keys, opening doors, picking your nose, as well as most parts of casual conversation) are decided subconsciously and instructions to your limbs, tongue and so on are already sent by the time you consciously "decide" to do it. So what your conscous mind does most of the time is reconstructing a chain of events, tricking you into believing that um, yeah, i mean to do that.

I wonder if I can use that as an excuse. It was my subconscous pinching her in the butt, not me.
 
Liar said:
Funky. Reminds me of something else I saw on tv a while ago.

Apparently, most of the desicions you make in your everyday life (simple things like picking up a cup to drink, reaching for your car keys, opening doors, picking your nose, as well as most parts of casual conversation) are decided subconsciously and instructions to your limbs, tongue and so on are already sent by the time you consciously "decide" to do it. So what your conscous mind does most of the time is reconstructing a chain of events, tricking you into believing that um, yeah, i mean to do that.

I wonder if I can use that as an excuse. It was my subconscous pinching her in the butt, not me.

That's interesting... I wonder how that works with reflexes.
 
fieryjen said:
That's interesting... I wonder how that works with reflexes.

It was your subconscious that decked him for subconsciously pinching your butt.
 
impressive said:
It was your subconscious that decked him for subconsciously pinching your butt.
Oh, I woud very conscoiusly pinch that butt.
 
This dovetails with studies I've encountered demonstrating that the brain appears to continue problem-solving activity long after the individual has ceased consciously attempting to solve the problem. Essentially, that old advice about sleeping on a tough decision is right; the mind continues to work on the problem on sub-conscious levels. I certainly have found this to be true in my own life. Often what a story really needs is time to "gel" - and I think that that's because it needs some heavy sub-conscious processing time to sort out the issues.

Shanglan
 
Liar said:
Funky. Reminds me of something else I saw on tv a while ago.

Apparently, most of the desicions you make in your everyday life (simple things like picking up a cup to drink, reaching for your car keys, opening doors, picking your nose, as well as most parts of casual conversation) are decided subconsciously and instructions to your limbs, tongue and so on are already sent by the time you consciously "decide" to do it. So what your conscous mind does most of the time is reconstructing a chain of events, tricking you into believing that um, yeah, i mean to do that.

I wonder if I can use that as an excuse. It was my subconscous pinching her in the butt, not me.
And when the two get slightly out of sync it called deja vu.
 
As proof that too much thought and research can backfire when predicting the outcome of a decision, there was that experiment in the 90's where monkeys created virtual stock portfolios by playing with the financial pages of the NY Times. On average, the monkeys slightly out-performed professional stock market analysts.

It's kind of relaxing to know that relaxing works as well or better than other ways of making decisions.
 
I can relate to that study. I handle a lot of decisions in my life in a very similar fashion.

I gather the information needed to help my decision, then I quit thinking about trying to make a decision. I wait for the answer to come to me instead of me going after the answer. I know it sounds kind of weird, but that's what works best for me.
 
Wildcard Ky said:
I can relate to that study. I handle a lot of decisions in my life in a very similar fashion.

I gather the information needed to help my decision, then I quit thinking about trying to make a decision. I wait for the answer to come to me instead of me going after the answer. I know it sounds kind of weird, but that's what works best for me.
I let monkeys decide. They enjoy it, and I have time to get a pedicure.
 
I alway let my conscious and unconscious become out of sync so I always think that I have already made the decision therefore I nolonger have to make it. :rolleyes:
 
BlackShanglan said:
This dovetails with studies I've encountered demonstrating that the brain appears to continue problem-solving activity long after the individual has ceased consciously attempting to solve the problem. Essentially, that old advice about sleeping on a tough decision is right; the mind continues to work on the problem on sub-conscious levels. I certainly have found this to be true in my own life. Often what a story really needs is time to "gel" - and I think that that's because it needs some heavy sub-conscious processing time to sort out the issues.

Shanglan
Oh, that's my excuse too- I must have a very slow-gelling mind though...
Or maybe my subconcious just isn't heavy enough.... Or the processer needs oiling? :D
 
Stella_Omega said:
Oh, that's my excuse too- I must have a very slow-gelling mind though...
Or maybe my subconcious just isn't heavy enough.... Or the processer needs oiling? :D

I've got some oil. Let's find out. I'm sure there's an access port somewhere; just be patient while I fiddle around a bit ...
 
BlackShanglan said:
I've got some oil. Let's find out. I'm sure there's an access port somewhere; just be patient while I fiddle around a bit ...
Try lower. A little lower than that...
 
impressive said:
Good orgasms that way, too. *nods*

Nice idea, but the woman would beat my ass bloody, if I did word games during fun. :(
 
shereads said:
As proof that too much thought and research can backfire when predicting the outcome of a decision, there was that experiment in the 90's where monkeys created virtual stock portfolios by playing with the financial pages of the NY Times. On average, the monkeys slightly out-performed professional stock market analysts.

It's kind of relaxing to know that relaxing works as well or better than other ways of making decisions.

It turns out the monkeys were getting tips from crooked CEOs.
 
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