Still no news of Bush...
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Andra_Jenny
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You must have missed my question...
Since the Peggy Noonan article appeared in the WSJ and now a new viewpoint from Putin. Seems these two like each other. Still time to apply for statehood, and again, we do not make fun of the ederly, decrepid, senile...,
Since the Peggy Noonan article appeared in the WSJ and now a new viewpoint from Putin. Seems these two like each other. Still time to apply for statehood, and again, we do not make fun of the ederly, decrepid, senile...,
Dixon Carter Lee
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Bush is overseas? Thank God. Now we can get some work done.
Alright, let's go. Stop the mechanically unsafe, drug carrying Mexican Trucks from flying down our highways. Build more windmills and Hydrogren/Oxygen batteries and stop tearing up Alaska looking for more Dinosaur mud. Send your little refund checks back to Washington and ask them to spend it on Education. Boycott Exxon until the price of gas goes down 50 cents. Sell cheap electricty to California. Remind everyone that Abortion is legal.
*whew* Okay. That was great.
Where's Bush going next?
Alright, let's go. Stop the mechanically unsafe, drug carrying Mexican Trucks from flying down our highways. Build more windmills and Hydrogren/Oxygen batteries and stop tearing up Alaska looking for more Dinosaur mud. Send your little refund checks back to Washington and ask them to spend it on Education. Boycott Exxon until the price of gas goes down 50 cents. Sell cheap electricty to California. Remind everyone that Abortion is legal.
*whew* Okay. That was great.
Where's Bush going next?
p_p_man
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Re: BUSH ALERT!!!
Well that was a non-event.
Over here we all know about the clone you've got carrying out domestic duties, it's not him we're looking for, it's the other one...you know the one that's an ace at foreign affairs...
We really are getting quite worried now...
p_p_man said:
Well that was a non-event.
Over here we all know about the clone you've got carrying out domestic duties, it's not him we're looking for, it's the other one...you know the one that's an ace at foreign affairs...
We really are getting quite worried now...
morninggirl5
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I shouldn't do this, I know I shouldn't do this........
Attached, for your interest and enjoyment, please find some examples of European media coverage of the President's trip to Europe:
BELGIUM: HET LAATSTE NIEUWS observed (6/15): "Prime Minister Verhofstadt now knows why George Walker Bush was elected president of the United States: because of his charm and enchanting personality... Bush's trip is a real 'operation charm.'"
ENGLAND: The TIMES observed (6/14): "President Bush urged America's NATO allies to abandon their Cold War mindsets and jettison the 1972 Anti-Ballistic Missile treaty as he made a passionate case yesterday for building defenses against the threat of missile attack from rogue states..."
FRANCE: Jean Quatremer opined in left-of-center LIBERATION (6/14): "Yesterday, during his brief address at the NATO summit, the U.S. president managed a tour de force as he showed the Allies' reservations toward Missile Defense to be outdated and obsolete...."
FRANCE: Marc Paolini in centrist LA TRIBUNE (06/15): "George W. Bush continues to amaze Europe. Twenty-four hours after his performance before the Atlantic Alliance, the new American president accomplished another perfect performance in Goteborg.... He impressed the participants with his knowledge of the issues, his authority over his team, and his overall cleverness..."
ITALY: Alberto Pasolini Zanelli in leading center-right IL GIORNALE (6/14): "But for sure the U.S. president scored a considerable success upon his debut at a NATO summit and managed to do so much quicker than most observers on both sides of the Atlantic expected."
POLAND: Jan Skorzynski wrote in centrist Rzeczpospolita (6/15): "George W. Bush began his tour of Europe in an impressive way. Decisions on the second round of NATO enlargement made at the Brussels summit, which was attended by the U.S. president, is very good news--and not only for the aspiring countries, but also for Poland...."
POLAND: Independent, liberal Dagens Nyheter (6/15): "The United States and Europe have come closer thanks to George W. Bush's visit."
Attached, for your interest and enjoyment, please find some examples of European media coverage of the President's trip to Europe:
BELGIUM: HET LAATSTE NIEUWS observed (6/15): "Prime Minister Verhofstadt now knows why George Walker Bush was elected president of the United States: because of his charm and enchanting personality... Bush's trip is a real 'operation charm.'"
ENGLAND: The TIMES observed (6/14): "President Bush urged America's NATO allies to abandon their Cold War mindsets and jettison the 1972 Anti-Ballistic Missile treaty as he made a passionate case yesterday for building defenses against the threat of missile attack from rogue states..."
FRANCE: Jean Quatremer opined in left-of-center LIBERATION (6/14): "Yesterday, during his brief address at the NATO summit, the U.S. president managed a tour de force as he showed the Allies' reservations toward Missile Defense to be outdated and obsolete...."
FRANCE: Marc Paolini in centrist LA TRIBUNE (06/15): "George W. Bush continues to amaze Europe. Twenty-four hours after his performance before the Atlantic Alliance, the new American president accomplished another perfect performance in Goteborg.... He impressed the participants with his knowledge of the issues, his authority over his team, and his overall cleverness..."
ITALY: Alberto Pasolini Zanelli in leading center-right IL GIORNALE (6/14): "But for sure the U.S. president scored a considerable success upon his debut at a NATO summit and managed to do so much quicker than most observers on both sides of the Atlantic expected."
POLAND: Jan Skorzynski wrote in centrist Rzeczpospolita (6/15): "George W. Bush began his tour of Europe in an impressive way. Decisions on the second round of NATO enlargement made at the Brussels summit, which was attended by the U.S. president, is very good news--and not only for the aspiring countries, but also for Poland...."
POLAND: Independent, liberal Dagens Nyheter (6/15): "The United States and Europe have come closer thanks to George W. Bush's visit."
KillerMuffin
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PP, once a news item has already been slanted it's very bad form to go through and re-slant for the benefit of the readership who may or may not know what your personal opinions.
If you hate Bush so much, then come to America, become a citizen and vote democrat next time. After all he is oh so important to your own personal government, isn't he? He does what over there? Consort of the queen? No, that's not it. Run Parliament? No, a fellow named Blair does that. Sell scones in the Strand? No, he wouldn't know a good scone if it bit him on the arse.
Shocking though it may be, Bush won the election. He is there for 4 whole years. I had to suck it up and not complain during the Clinton era. The least you could do is suck it up as well.
Either that or delineate exactly why you don't like him. Then we can say, hmmm, well, he's not making your domestic policy then is he? You lucky rotter. Get over it.
If you hate Bush so much, then come to America, become a citizen and vote democrat next time. After all he is oh so important to your own personal government, isn't he? He does what over there? Consort of the queen? No, that's not it. Run Parliament? No, a fellow named Blair does that. Sell scones in the Strand? No, he wouldn't know a good scone if it bit him on the arse.
Shocking though it may be, Bush won the election. He is there for 4 whole years. I had to suck it up and not complain during the Clinton era. The least you could do is suck it up as well.
Either that or delineate exactly why you don't like him. Then we can say, hmmm, well, he's not making your domestic policy then is he? You lucky rotter. Get over it.
p_p_man
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KillerMuffin...
I read Morninggirl5's thread as a light piece of banter (note her opening paragraph) to which my reply was not meant to be in bad form but to re-slant an already slanted series of news items (again in fun). Note my message to her at the end of the post.
I don't hate Bush per se but I do hate the politics he stands for...if it wasn't Bush it would be someone else.
And he really does amuse me...
As did William Hague over here (right wing, slightly stupid 39 year old leader of our official oppositoion who had illusions of grandeur).
I certainly have no problems if you want to denigrate our politicians - that's part of their job description - "able to put up with diverse and highly critical comments from all sources".
After all we all live in this famous global village where one country's political action has a direct impact on another.
And what's the phrase - "The only trouble with living in a global village is that it's full of global village idiots".
I read Morninggirl5's thread as a light piece of banter (note her opening paragraph) to which my reply was not meant to be in bad form but to re-slant an already slanted series of news items (again in fun). Note my message to her at the end of the post.
I don't hate Bush per se but I do hate the politics he stands for...if it wasn't Bush it would be someone else.
And he really does amuse me...
As did William Hague over here (right wing, slightly stupid 39 year old leader of our official oppositoion who had illusions of grandeur).
I certainly have no problems if you want to denigrate our politicians - that's part of their job description - "able to put up with diverse and highly critical comments from all sources".
After all we all live in this famous global village where one country's political action has a direct impact on another.
And what's the phrase - "The only trouble with living in a global village is that it's full of global village idiots".
KillerMuffin
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The constant Bush haranguing is wearing thin, if you're intending to be funny. We are a representative nation. We elected him to represent us, whether we voted for him or not. When Wild Bill was in we were represented by a man who thought too often with the wrong head and no one could be found to fess up to voting for him in his first year. Now we are represented by a man whose hat is bigger than his torse and that no one will fess up to voting for. Bush is the main American Person. He is KM, he is Sparky (scary thought), he is lavender, he is cymbidia, he is not Todd, he is Cheyenne. At least to the world at large and the government of the country at little.
Can we at least show a little restraint? A daily thread about Bush's inadequacies and the constant degredation is getting old.
The man has to have done something right. He has to have some redeeming value. I challenge any of you who denigrate him to come up with something meaningful, viable, and noteworthy that he has done well since he became president. Or were we all too busy Bush Bashing?
Sorry, getting constantly tired of it. I voted for Bush and I agree with his politics. You slap him, you slap me. It's getting very difficult for me to try to remain neutral and quiet with your constant insults against me, unintended though they are.
Can we at least show a little restraint? A daily thread about Bush's inadequacies and the constant degredation is getting old.
The man has to have done something right. He has to have some redeeming value. I challenge any of you who denigrate him to come up with something meaningful, viable, and noteworthy that he has done well since he became president. Or were we all too busy Bush Bashing?
Sorry, getting constantly tired of it. I voted for Bush and I agree with his politics. You slap him, you slap me. It's getting very difficult for me to try to remain neutral and quiet with your constant insults against me, unintended though they are.
p_p_man
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Believe me when I say...
...that I would love to be highly critical of our own politicians on Lit but as this is predominantly an American site most people wouldn't know enough about British Foreign Affairs policy to form a decent argument.
Whereas most people in the world do know or can see how American foreign policy affects them personally and can give considered replies to events which they have experience of.
And please note KM I can only speak out about Bush's foreign policy I don't know enough about your domestic politics except for one or two high profile matters like the NcVeigh story...
...that I would love to be highly critical of our own politicians on Lit but as this is predominantly an American site most people wouldn't know enough about British Foreign Affairs policy to form a decent argument.
Whereas most people in the world do know or can see how American foreign policy affects them personally and can give considered replies to events which they have experience of.
And please note KM I can only speak out about Bush's foreign policy I don't know enough about your domestic politics except for one or two high profile matters like the NcVeigh story...
morninggirl5
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Re: KillerMuffin...
Glad I could provide you a bit of amusement. That was my only intention. I'm firmly of the belief that each person's political views are their own and no matter how much "debate" occurrs in this or any other forum, they will retain those same beliefs. For that reason, I don't broadcast my political views (well except for education, and I can't NOT enter those threads).
KM, I think part of the problem with the whole image thing now is because Clinton was viewed so positively outside the US. He used his best asset, his charm, to cultivate an image that has lingered despite his failings. Bush hasn't cultivated that image and I really don't see him doing so. I don't think he really cares what the press is saying as long as he is able to accomplish the goals he outlined in his campaign.
p_p_man said:
Glad I could provide you a bit of amusement. That was my only intention. I'm firmly of the belief that each person's political views are their own and no matter how much "debate" occurrs in this or any other forum, they will retain those same beliefs. For that reason, I don't broadcast my political views (well except for education, and I can't NOT enter those threads).
KM, I think part of the problem with the whole image thing now is because Clinton was viewed so positively outside the US. He used his best asset, his charm, to cultivate an image that has lingered despite his failings. Bush hasn't cultivated that image and I really don't see him doing so. I don't think he really cares what the press is saying as long as he is able to accomplish the goals he outlined in his campaign.
